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Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Disordered is the podcast that delivers real, evidence-based, actionable talk about anxiety disorders and anxiety recovery in a kind, compassionate, community-oriented environment. Josh Fletcher is a qualified psychotherapist in the UK. Drew Linsalata is a therapist practicing under supervision in the US. They"re both bestselling authors in the anxiety and mental health space. Josh and Drew are funny, friendly, and they have a knack for combining lived experience, formal training, and professional

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Cognitive Reframing in Anxiety Disorders (Episode 176)

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2026/10/09

Send a question or comment via text message Cognitive reframing in anxiety disorders is not about arguing with a thought until it loses. This week we take some of the most common phrases we hear in this community and look at them from a slightly different angle, without trying to prove them wrong or talk anyone into feeling safe. We work through "I'm spiraling," "what if," "I'm back to square one," "I'm a burden to my family," and "what if I lose my progress," and talk about why a reframe you...

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41:22

Meditations on Anxiety Medications (Episode 175)

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2026/10/02

Send a question or comment via text message 175 episodes in, we're finally talking about medication. This week we get into questions we hear constantly: if I take medication for my anxiety, does that mean I'm failing, or that I'll never really recover? Is medication cheating? Is it evil? Is there even an answer to these questions? We talk about why these questions don't even really hold up, why medication combined with therapy is genuinely the gold standard for treating some anxiety dis...

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46:35

Exposure Is Learning To Be Uncomfortable (Episode 174)

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2026/09/25

Send a question or comment via text message Exposure isn't about proving you can sit in traffic, go to the supermarket, or make it through dinner with a friend. This week we talk about what exposure is actually for: practicing being uncomfortable, on purpose, without trying to fix or manage the feeling once it shows up. We get into why the specific trigger, whether it's a bridge, a dentist's office, or a work presentation, barely matters compared to the discomfort underneath it, why reaching ...

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39:32

Making It Right Once You're Better? (Episode 173)

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2026/09/18

Send a question or comment via text message Once you're better, desensitized, and living your life again, a different feeling can show up: guilt over the years you lost, the plans you canceled, the people you pushed away. This week we talk about the urge to "make it right," and why that instinct deserves a closer look before you act on it. We get into the difference between amends that actually help and rumination dressed up as responsibility, why some of that guilt simply has to be carried r...

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48:57

CBT For Anxiety Disorders Explained (Episode 172)

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2026/09/11

Send us Fan Mail "I tried CBT and it didn't work" is a lot like saying "I tried food and it didn't work." CBT is a massive umbrella, and what you actually got depends heavily on which version of it you were given. This week we break down what CBT for anxiety disorders actually looks like, from the older, content-driven approach built around thought challenging and thought replacement, to the third-wave, mindfulness and acceptance-based approach we rely on most, which is also CBT. We talk abou...

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Anxiety And The "Yeah But" (Episode 171)

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2026/09/04

Send us Fan Mail "Yeah, but." Two words that show up constantly in anxiety recovery, right after a win. You did the thing, and before it can count, the mind adds a condition: yeah, but I had my water bottle with me, yeah, but I still felt anxious, yeah, but a real doctor might find something the others missed. This week we break down why "yeah, but" is one of anxiety's most effective tools, using misapplied logic, hypothetical scenarios, and stories that have nothing to do with you to keep th...

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Anxiety, People Pleasing, and Self-Esteem (Episode 170)

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2026/08/28

Not everything is an anxiety disorder, but people pleasing and low self-esteem feed into it constantly. This week we talk about why the two overlap so heavily, and why learning to desensitize almost always requires putting yourself first, which can feel like the least safe thing in the world if pleasing people is how you've kept yourself safe. We get into what people pleasing actually looks like, from constant scanning of other people's moods to guilt as a baseline feeling, why it's usually a...

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00:48:37

Common Anxiety Recovery "Mistakes" (Episode 169)

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2026/08/21

This week we go through the most common mistakes people make while trying to recover from anxiety disorders, the ones that feel intuitive in the moment but end up keeping the cycle going.We cover minimizing your own wins, thinking a place or situation is the actual exposure instead of the feeling underneath it, overestimating anxiety's importance while underestimating your own ability to handle it, and treating a thought that feels true as if it is true. We also talk about why trying to prevent

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00:37:09

Anxiety, Distraction, and "Running From Feelings"...

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2026/08/14

Is distraction the same thing as running from your feelings? This week we answer a listener question about where that line actually is, and why the answer isn't as simple as always sit with it.We talk about why attention plays such a big role in anxiety disorders, why getting caught up in your life is not automatically avoidance, and why the real question isn't am I distracting myself but what am I actually running from. We also get into why every emotion, not just anxiety, deserves room,

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00:45:48

Popular But Dangerous Anxiety Advice (Episode 167)

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2026/08/07

Anxiety recovery attracts an entire industry, and not all of it is safe. This week we talk about popular but dangerous anxiety cures, the methods and trends that get recommended constantly but that our community says actually made things worse.We cover the trauma narrative that convinces people their panic and OCD are rooted in trauma stored in the body, nervous system regulation and vagus nerve claims built on debunked science, tapping and EFT marketed as evidence based when it isn't, coaching

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00:41:10

Anxiety Questions and Answers (Episode 166)

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2026/07/31

This is our anxiety latest questions and answers episode, where we go straight to the community and tackle real listener questions about panic disorder, OCD, GAD, and health anxiety.We get into what to do when anxiety symptoms show up all day without fitting a specific diagnosis, why worrying about something you live with, like an aging house, does not count as exposure on its own, and how to tell the difference between doing real exposure work and quietly avoiding it. We also cover what to do when

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00:40:23

Anxiety Always Has A Strategy, and Its Nonsense...

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2026/07/24

Anxiety always seems to have a strategy for you, doesn't it?Check it, prepare for it, watch it closely so nothing bad happensStay on top of things so you can be the fixer, the predictor, the protector, the engineer of experiencesDo not take your eyes off the worry because worry is proof of how good you are and how loving you are.This week we're picking that strategy apart and showing why it almost never holds up.We're talking about:The nocebo effect and why anticipating symptoms can

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00:38:10

Anxiety And Releasing Tension (Episode 164)

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2026/07/17

Everyone tells you to release tension. But if you live with panic disorder, OCD, or health anxiety, that advice can backfire fast. This week we're digging into why chasing relaxation as a goal often makes tension worse, and what actually helps instead.We're talking about why physical tension is a normal response to stress and fear, not a problem to fix. Why techniques like jaw stretches, massage, and meditation can turn into more monitoring and checking. And why sometimes the fastest way

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00:38:11

When Anxiety Says You're The Exception (Episode 163)

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2026/07/10

Anxiety has a favorite move. It doesn't argue that acceptance and exposure don't work. It just convinces you they don't apply to you specifically. This thought, this sensation, this situation, is the one exception to every rule you already understand.This week we break down what fuels that exception: possibility, intensity, and importance, plus the urgency that makes an unlikely outcome feel like it's already happening. A 1 in 5,000 chance means nothing until anxiety puts your name

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00:35:56

Anxiety Recovery PROCESS vs CONTENT (Episode 162)

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2026/07/03

It's your heart. Or the dizziness. Or the one thought you can't get to leave you alone. If you could just solve that specific thing, you'd finally be okay. This week we push back on that.--Want to talk about what you're hearing today with Drew, Josh, and others that share your experience? We're hanging out in the Disordered Community Space:https://disordered.fm/community--The subject of your fear, the heartbeat, the health scare, the intrusive thought, the situation you're

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00:34:55

Anxiety Recovery: Bring ALL Versions Of You (Episode...

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2026/06/26

You want to do the acceptance thing. You've read the books, you've listened to the podcasts, you intellectually get it. And then you get triggered, and suddenly the version of you that's anxious, scared, or doubting gets the door slammed in its face. That version of you is broken. That version shouldn't be here. That version needs to go.But that's the version of you that actually has to learn the lesson.--Want to talk about what you heard today or interact with us and a community

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00:42:12

Anxiety: It's All About Attention, Baby! (Episode 160)

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2026/06/19

This week we're talking about attention. Specifically, how where you place your focus directly impacts your anxiety and your recovery.We discuss how an anxiety disorder naturally hijacks your attention, pulling it inward to scan for threats inside your own body and mind. While checking in on how you feel might seem like the safest thing to do, it actually feeds the sensitization process. We look at the role of the locus coeruleus and the cognitive attentional syndrome, explaining why trying to

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00:38:26

Improving .... Or Optimizing Your Health and Wellness...

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2026/06/12

Improving vs. Optimizing in Anxiety RecoveryIn this episode of Disordered, Drew and Josh tackle a topic suggested by the community: the hidden trap of the "optimization culture" and how it intersects with anxiety and OCD.There is a distinct difference between wanting to improve your health and falling into compulsive, perfectionist territory where every metric must be flawlessly managed. For an anxious mind fixated on certainty, the modern wellness industry’s obsession with biohacking,

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00:36:33

Anxiety Recovery ... When You're Calm (Episode 158)

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2026/06/05

What do you do when your anxiety finally quietens down for a few days? For many of us, a calm day triggers a completely new set of anxious habits. We treat the absence of panic as a fragile victory, freezing in place so we do not ruin it, or constantly checking around the corner to see if the fear is returning.--Want to ask questions about this episode? We're hanging out in the Disordered Community Space:https://disordered.fm/community---In this episode, we address why the work of anxiety

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00:40:02

Is Distraction a Compulsion In Anxiety Recovery?...

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2026/05/29

Can distraction be a compulsion in anxiety recovery? It is a question that comes up constantly in the anxiety community. Many people are told to simply "distract your mind" when they feel anxious, but if you are doing it specifically to escape a feeling, it can quickly turn into a safety behavior or a compulsion.---Want to talk about this episode with Drew, Josh, and others that are sharing your struggle and understand? We're hanging out in the Disordered Community

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