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Animal Spirits Podcast

Animal Spirits is a show about markets, life, and investing. Join Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they"re reading, writing, listening to and watching. Look for new episodes every Wednesday morning. See our disclosures here - https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/

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40:55

Talk Your Book: Investing in the All Weather Strategy

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/09/29

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Matt Bartolini from State Street Investment Management and Chris Ward from Bridgewater Associates to discuss: the SPDR Bridgewater All Weather ETF, the strategy's origins, how it works, the fees involved and much more.Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common

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74:56

A Mania Is Brewing (EP. 431)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/09/24

On episode 431 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss bubble behavior from tech CEOs, the AI inflection point, S&P 10,000, panic selling, $7.7 trillion in money markets, the two-speed economy, most IPOs are terrible investments, how to bring down mortgage rates, the demographic housing battle, youth sports and more.This episode is sponsored by Nuveen and KraneShares. Invest like the future is watching. Visit

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31:33

Talk Your Book: Making Money When Stocks Are Up or Down

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/09/22

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Graham Day, EVP and CIO of Innovator Capital Management to discuss: what the Dual Direction ETF is, how the portfolio is constructed, different outcomes with this product, the timing around buffered ETFs, and much more. Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common

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80:37

How Many People Make $100,000? (EP. 430)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/09/17

On episode 430 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss Future Proof, 1990s nostalgia, Oasis, why the stock market doesn't care about the labor market, the top 10% is powering the economy, Google vs. ChatGPT, gold vs. AI, IPOs vs. small caps, Americans are richer than you think, a bull market in midwest housing, social media was a mistake, Gen Z wealth inequality and much more.This episode is sponsored by Invesco and

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44:48

Talk Your Book: Investing in Private Credit ETFs and...

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/09/15

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Wes Crill, Senior Client Solutions Director & VP at Dimensional Fund Advisors to explore strategies for investing at all-time highs. Then, at 18:18, they are joined by Tony Kelly, Co-Founder of BondBloxx ETFs to discuss investing in CLOs, differences between CLOs and high yield, and how CLOs fit in the private credit asset

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30:26

Live from Future Proof 2025 (EP. 429)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/09/10

On episode 429 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss: how to build a successful RIA, the flywheel effect, using "there he is" as a greeting, and more.Learn more about Sprott ETFs , Visit SprottETFs.com or call 1-888-622-1813 for disclosure and prospectus information, containing investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses, which should be read carefully. ALPS Distributors, Inc., is the Distributor for the Sprott

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32:40

Talk Your Book: How Custom Indexing Works

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/09/08

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Ehren J. Stanhope, CFA, Principal, Chief Investment Strategist at Canvas Custom Indexing to discuss: the evolution of investment products, why 2019 changed everything, how financial advisors are using Canvas with their clients and why technology is such an important component in this process. Find complete show notes on our

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67:31

A National Housing Emergency (EP. 428)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/09/03

On episode 428 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss rich people everywhere, why this isn't like the dot-com bubble, the markets don't care about bad vibes, junk bonds are on a tear, there are more ETFs than stocks, Reddit loss porn, American exceptionalism, what would actually fix housing, the S&P 500 is outperforming private equity, 7 year auto loans, the 9-9-6 lifestyle and more. This episode is sponsored YCharts and

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33:16

Talk Your Book: How to Invest in Commodities

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/09/01

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Don Casturo, CIO at Quantix Commodities LP and Kristof Gleich, President & CIO at Harbor Capital to discuss: how to invest more thoughtfully in a broad basket of commodities, how investors typically allocate to commodities as an asset class, why the index doesn't make sense anymore and how commodities can hedge more traditional

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63:31

State of the American Investor (EP. 427)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/08/27

On episode 427 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss what happens to the stock market after Fed rate cuts, is this 1996 or 1999, why value stocks need a recession, investors love options, how people invested before the Internet, why we need a correction and much more.This episode is sponsored by Invesco. To learn more about Invesco’s income advantage ETFs. Visit https://www.invesco.com/income-advantage Sign up for The

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27:27

Talk Your Book: Creating Monthly Income From Your...

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/08/25

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by John Burrello, Senior Portfolio Manager at Invesco to discuss: their Income Advantage suite of ETFs, how options work, the risks involved in big payouts and more. Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common Sense⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michael Batnick’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Irrelevant

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61:06

Buy the Porsche (EP. 426)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/08/20

On episode 426 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss why the stock market is getting boring, S&P 493 vs. the Mag 7, are small caps dead, it's tough being a contrarian, healthcare stocks are cheap, the K-shaped food industry, the tariff impact is coming, renting vs. buying, million dollar houses and more.This episode is sponsored by YCharts. Visit https://go.ycharts.com/animal-spirits and Get 20% off your initial YCharts

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34:28

Talk Your Book: How to Invest in Futures

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/08/18

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Craig Bewick, Head of Retail Education for the CME Group to discuss: how futures contracts work, why retail investors are becoming a bigger part of the futures market and more.Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common Sense⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michael Batnick’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Irrelevant

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63:52

Measuring the Wealth Effect (EP. 425)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/08/13

On episode 425 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss 1990s nostalgia, the growing importance of the stock market on the economy, the Nifty Fifty vs. the Mag 7, buying Nike as a falling knife, the K-shaped economy, flying private, Tom Lee likes ETH, the 50/30/20 rule and more. This episode is sponsored by Pacer ETFs and Fabric by Gerber Life Learn more about COWG at http://paceretfs.com/ Join the thousands of parents who

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37:32

Talk Your Book: The People's Index

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/08/11

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Matt Bartolini, Managing Director at State Street Investment Management to discuss: investing in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, a history of the Dow, how it compares to the other indexes, and more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common Sense⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michael Batnick’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The

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65:26

Wall Street Strikes Back (EP. 424)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/08/06

On episode 424 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss: how AI bailed out the stock market and economy, a history of capex bubbles, the Carvana comeback, investors are trading everything, the labor market debate, vibes vs. data, $1 billion job offers, where home prices are falling, Michael buys a new house, condos are crashing, FAFO parenting and more.This episode is sponsored by YCharts and Vanguard. Get 20% off your initial

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32:03

Talk Your Book: Finding Tax Alpha in Fixed Income

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/08/04

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Alex Morris of F/m Investments to discuss their new Compoundr ETF Series, diversifying your bonds and more. Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common Sense⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michael Batnick’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Irrelevant Investor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Feel free to shoot us an email at

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62:04

This Is the Dumb Money (EP. 423)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/07/30

On episode 423 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss an AI bubble floor under the market, when to sell NVDA, strategies that don't work anymore, how the housing market is impacting the stock market, the trade war is over, the summer crypto trade, investors are still buying homes, a bad idea for your 401k, Happy Gilmore 2 and more.This episode is sponsored by Vanguard. Learn more at: https://vgi.vg/3GbOsYM Sign up for The Compound

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35:29

Talk Your Book: How to Hold the Biggest Winners

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/07/28

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Bill Mann, Chief Investment Strategist at Motley Fool Asset Management to discuss: buy & hold investing, owning 10-bagger stocks, the Motley Fool 100, managing investor behavior and much more. Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common Sense⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michael Batnick’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Irrelevant

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73:45

What is Upper Middle Class? (EP. 422)

Animal Spirits Podcast ·

2025/07/23

On episode 422 of Animal Spirits, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ discuss: why stock market returns can't be 15% per year forever, putting the Mag 7 into context, small caps are cheap, retail runs the show now, Opendoor is the new meme stock, investing is easy, owning 50% of a single stock in your Roth IRA, explaining Bitcoin, the Midwest real estate boom, losing your iPhone and more!This episode is sponsored by Vanguard and YCharts Learn more about

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