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Still. Real.
What happens when two, multi-hyphenate creative entrepreneurs and storytellers hold vigil for the unseen in each other, to be seen as they truly are, to do for themselves what they do every day for their clients and patrons. We touch on the awkwardness and ugliness of camera, stage, and conventional business, the legacy of being an ageless elder, and the beautiful ways we summon the muse and the Divine reveals. With four decades of combined experience, Shelby Ring, the filmmaker-bard, and Ushi
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