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Been There Got Out Podcast

Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that.If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based on one"s years of success (representing myself in court!), coupled with the other"s High Conflict

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27:21

You're Not "Just Anxious." You're Validation Addicted...

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2026/01/20

🎯 "If I don't get validation from my partner (or - yikes - my ex), I can't function. I'm a mess unless I get that feedback, that positive reinforcement." That's validation addiction, and according to Ralph Brewer, founder of Help for Men and author of five books including "The Dead Bedroom Fix" and "Rebuild: The Complete Guide," it's an epidemic affecting far more people than you'd think. Most people assume this compulsive need for external validation is a "female thing"—the anxious,

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40:26

When Your ADHD or Special Needs Child Is Weaponized...

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2026/01/16

🎯 **"90% of families with special needs children end up divorcing. And when they do, those children become incredibly vulnerable to gatekeeping behaviors that can lead to parental alienation."** Ashish Joshi—one of our most frequently cited experts and a leading attorney specializing in family violence, parental alienation, and neurodivergent family cases—returns to explain the critical intersection between special needs children and custody battles. If you have a child with autism, ADHD,

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44:35

The Long-Term Effects of Parental Alienation: An...

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2026/01/13

🎯 "Just pretend they are dead." That's what a psychiatrist told Steven Eichenblatt's biological father—advice he followed when he dropped seven-year-old Steven and his twin sister off one day and never came back. Steven is now an attorney with 37 years of experience, a guardian ad litem who represents children pro bono in custody cases, and the author of "Pretend They Are Dead"—a riveting memoir about what it's actually like to be the alienated child. This conversation offers a

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50:26

Living Bereavement: Processing Grief When Your Child...

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2026/01/09

🎯 "Loss is loss. And we lose not only loved ones, but we lose a lot of different aspects in our life. Losing a child through disconnection... that is a really serious aspect of grief." Jock Brocas—spiritual medium, psychologist researcher, ex-military, and grief expert—explains the unique grief of alienated parents during what he calls the "Bermuda Triangle" of holidays (Thanksgiving through New Year). This conversation addresses the grief no one talks about: when your child is alive but

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27:08

Can My Kids Be OK? A Divorce Therapist Who's Been...

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2026/01/07

🎯 "I couldn't sleep. I couldn't eat. It was all because of what I was doing—what we were doing—to my kids." If that sounds familiar, this conversation is for you. Jill Barnett Kaufman is a licensed therapist, divorce coach, certified mediator, and co-parenting expert who's been helping parents since the 90s. But she's also been exactly where you are—terrified that divorce would ruin her children's lives. Now, years later, with thriving adult children (including a middle child who recently

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40:47

Overwhelmed by Divorce Paperwork? A Life Coach's...

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2025/12/30

🎯 If divorce paperwork makes you want to crawl under your desk and never come out, you're not alone—and you're not broken. Jorie Houlihan, a certified life coach specializing in ADHD (and diagnosed herself at age 49), explains why so many people in high-conflict divorce situations struggle with the organizational demands—and what actually helps. Even if you don't have an ADHD diagnosis, the strategies Jorie shares work for anyone dealing with overwhelm, decision fatigue, and the paralyzing

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21:51

Art Activities for Kids in High-Conflict Divorce:...

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2025/12/26

🎯 If your child is drowning in anxiety from family stress and you're tired of adding more therapy appointments, this conversation will open new possibilities. Brian Barry, Program Manager at Clay Art Center in Port Chester, NY, explains why anxious kids don't need fancy tools or expensive art supplies—they just need curiosity, enthusiasm, and a chance to get their hands messy. Lisa visits the Clay Art Center to explore how creative activities help children process stress without...

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45:41

Reversing Parental Alienation When Your Kids Are Adults

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2025/12/23

🎯 If your adult child has cut contact and you think it's too late, this interview will change everything.Ginger Gentile, director of the documentary "Erasing Family" (free on YouTube), has helped reunite 180 families—including cases where parents had NO contact with adult children for up to 12 years. No email access, no phone number, didn't even know where their kid lived.And here's the surprising part: in the most successful reunifications, the child initiates the reconnection, not the

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28:23

Demystifying Family Court with Insight & Humor

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2025/12/19

Danny Karon, fondly known as "your lovable lawyer," offers a fresh perspective on the legal system by championing accessibility and empowerment. In this enlightening conversation, Danny shares his journey and mission to demystify legal complexities and reduce the prohibitive costs associated with legal services. With insights from his book "Your Lovable Lawyer's Guide to Legal Wellness," he equips listeners with practical tools to navigate legal challenges independently. We also tackle the ev...

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Guiding Kids Through Through the Turmoil of...

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2025/12/16

What if the child who seems to have it all together is actually struggling the most? Join us as we sit down with Colorado therapist Stacy Schaffer, who offers her expertise on the hidden emotional battles children face during parental conflict and divorce. We examine the façade of the "shiny kid," outwardly thriving yet internally wrestling with feelings of guilt and responsibility. Stacy shares strategies to empower these young ones by focusing on their ability to control their emotions and ...

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41:56

Navigating Trust and Betrayal in Military Marriages

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2025/12/12

Dr. Elizabeth Polinsky, a distinguished psychologist and marriage and family therapist, returns to share her invaluable insights on one of the most challenging issues faced by military couples: infidelity. With infidelity rates climbing by 22% during deployments, Dr. Polinsky unveils the seven distinct types of affairs that can arise, offering a clearer understanding of the underlying motivations. The conversation delves into the immense stress and separation distress that deployments can imp...

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29:10

The Transformative Power of Confidence in Relationships

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2025/12/09

Comedian and relationship coach Paul Roseberry joins us for a candid chat about the transformative power of confidence in relationships. Discover the "security method," a fresh perspective on understanding personal worth and the courage to walk away from toxic dynamics. Through Paul's blend of humor and wisdom, we address the all-too-common fear that keeps people stuck in need-based relationships and unlock the potential of interest-based connections. Journey with us as we reflect on the pro...

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29:10

Building Resilient Kids: The Power of Community

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2025/12/05

Unlock the secrets to nurturing resilient children with insights from our special guest, Olaolu Ogunyemi, a dedicated Marine officer, mentor, and parenting advocate. Learn how community support can be the cornerstone of raising well-rounded individuals as Olaolu shares his transformative journey from a self-proclaimed "knucklehead" to a respected figure in mentorship. We tackle the isolation challenges modern families face and explore how engaging communities can bolster emotional well-being,...

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NASDF: the "Costco of Family Services"

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2025/12/02

Join us as we welcome Ron Platt, the founder of the National Association for Single and Divorced Families (NASDF), to discuss the innovative ways this organization is transforming support for single and divorced families. Inspired by the success of AARP, NASDF offers a $19 monthly membership that provides access to a host of benefits aimed at alleviating the financial and emotional burdens faced by its members. Ron shares how NASDF acts as a "Costco for single and divorced families," offering...

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30:00

Can a Narcissist Change? It's Complicated!

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2025/11/28

Could personality disorders be more flexible than we think? Discover surprising insights with psychotherapist Marissa De Sa as she dismantles the misconception that personality disorders are unchangeable. Marissa's expertise in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) reveals how our environments and early experiences shape these conditions, providing a pathway to healing and growth. You'll hear about the transformative potential of DBT beyond its roots in tre...

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Thriving in the Aftermath of Narcissistic Abuse

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2025/11/25

Join us for a compelling discussion with Alexa Sasha, a dedicated narcissistic abuse healer and results coach, as we explore the nuances of emotional and narcissistic abuse and the path to healing. Alexa shares her unique journey from high school special education teacher to a coach focused on helping individuals actualize their dreams. Her background in education has equipped her with the skills to break down complex concepts and advocate for those healing from trauma. Alexa explains the pro...

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22:03

P.I. Ken Childs Shares Secrets to Catching Fraudsters

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2025/11/21

Renowned Los Angeles private investigator Ken Childs takes us inside the world of PI work, from tracking a sneaky cat's midnight escapades to unraveling tangled webs of insurance fraud. Ken's journey began with aspirations in law enforcement, but he found his true calling in the nuanced world of private investigation, where every case is a puzzle and "instant justice" is a rewarding reality. Whether it’s navigating emotionally charged divorces or conducting meticulous evidence gathering, Ken'...

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27:49

How the Alaskan Wilderness Honed an Expert's...

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2025/11/18

Join us for an intriguing discussion with Doug Fifer, a former Alaskan police officer and expert negotiator, as we explore the complexities of Alaska's unique environment and its impact on crime. With breathtaking landscapes that mask a darker reality, Doug shares his insights into the high rates of domestic violence and serial killings that plague the state. Discover how isolation, harsh weather, and substance abuse contribute to these issues and learn about the peculiar gender ratio in Alas...

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The Transformative Power of Family Systems Therapy

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2025/11/14

IFS therapist Jane Frumberg joins us on this episode to unravel the profound world of Internal Family Systems Therapy. Jane, who leads Light Within Therapy, distinguishes between family systems therapy and reunification therapy, emphasizing the unique approach of IFS in helping individuals connect with their inner parts, particularly those influenced by trauma. Unlike traditional family systems therapy, which analyzes family roles and dynamics, and reunification therapy, which rebuilds relati...

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39:06

Confronting Domestic Violence Through Workplace...

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2025/11/11

Join us for a compelling discussion as we welcome Agape Garcia, the inspiring founder of Confronting Domestic Violence. Agape shares her harrowing yet empowering journey from surviving a double attempted homicide and a life-threatening car accident to establishing a nonprofit dedicated to aiding victims of domestic violence. Listen in as she reveals the multifaceted nature of abuse, highlighting not just physical, but also financial and economic abuse, and the significant hurdles victims enco...

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