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The Space Between

In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Johnson Chong. Shamanic practitioner, author, and transformational guide, for a profound exploration of what it really means to wake up. Together, they navigate the terrain where ancient wisdom meets modern psychology, asking what it takes to live, heal, and grow in a time of deep collective change. Johnson opens up about his journey from a traditional upbringing to becoming a bridge between worlds, weaving together shamanic traditions, yogic insight,

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65:56

Postpartum Advocate: Jenna Kline - On Surrendering...

The Space Between ·

2026/03/09

Jenna Kline is a postpartum advocate reshaping how we talk about motherhood.In this conversation, Jenna reveals the transformation nobody warns you about—how becoming a mother requires a death of your old self, and why fighting that death is what makes postpartum so hard. She shares her experience of a 70-hour labor that ended in an unplanned C-section, working two weeks postpartum for a client who never asked if her baby survived, and why she wished she'd trusted her instinct to burn it all

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87:29

Somatic Sex & Relationship Coach: James Buckley -...

The Space Between ·

2026/03/02

James Buckley is a somatic sex and relationship coach who has spent 17 years navigating non-monogamy, kink, and the messy, complicated terrain of modern masculinity.What does it mean to be a man when you have no male role models? How do you rebuild yourself after your closest friends stage an intervention and force you to confront the worst version of yourself? And why is the manosphere teaching young men that eating pussy makes them submissive? Expect to learn how James went from blacking out for

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85:57

Holistic Counsellor: Jonathan Symonds- Healing...

The Space Between ·

2026/02/23

Jonathan Symonds is a holistic counsellor specialising in somatic healing, emotional integration, and helping men reconnect with their bodies after years of living in their heads.What We Discuss: • Why traditional talk therapy kept Jonathan stuck in a "healing loop" for 8 years—and what finally broke the pattern • The moment everything he knew about healing stopped working, and how regression became his greatest teacher • Why men are conditioned to disconnect from their bodies, and the specific

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71:22

Group Therapist: Sara Schreiber - The Mirror Effect,...

The Space Between ·

2026/02/02

What happens when we stop performing for each other and start being real? In this episode, I sit down with Sara, a group therapist who creates spaces where vulnerability becomes contagious in the best possible way—where the very thing that terrifies us, being exposed in front of others, becomes the doorway to profound transformation.We explore what group therapy does that individual therapy cannot, why shame loses its power when spoken aloud to witnesses, and how conflict—when held well becomes

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89:10

Spiritual Retreat Creator: Ruby Chapman - On Trust,...

The Space Between ·

2026/01/07

Ruby Chapman is a retreat space creator, energy worker, and spiritual guide based in Mudgee, Australia.Ruby has spent years navigating the edges of her comfort zone—from solo pilgrimages through the Andes to building Zensei, her wellness retreat space. In this conversation, we explore trust, presence, grief, shadow work, and what it means to surrender to something beyond our control. Expect to learn how Ruby learned to trust her intuition over her logical mind, what happened during her spiritual

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54:04

Self-Worth Psychotherapist: Jackson Goding -...

The Space Between ·

2025/12/29

Welcome to The Space Between, where we explore the transformative journey of self-worth, vulnerability, and authentic masculinity. In this episode, clinical psychotherapist Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Jackson Goding for a raw, honest conversation about the hidden stories we tell ourselves, the roots of shame, and the courage it takes to step into the unknown.Discover how early experiences shape our sense of value, why men struggle with emotional expression, and how embracing vulnerability can

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87:43

Kink Educator: Sam Gatsby Lim - The Power of Play,...

The Space Between ·

2025/12/22

What does it mean to truly come home to yourself? In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Sam Gatsby Lim. Kink educator, artist, and advocate for embodied living, to explore the journey from disconnection and people-pleasing to radical self-acceptance and authentic intimacy.Sam shares his story as a child of immigrants navigating trauma, cultural expectations, and the search for safety within his own body. Together, they unpack the tension between societal norms and personal truth, the

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90:56

Breathwork Practitioner: Mark Moon - Breathwork The...

The Space Between ·

2025/12/07

What if the key to unlocking your deepest vitality, healing old emotional wounds, and transforming the way you live was right under your nose—literally?In this powerful episode, psychotherapist and couples therapist Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Mark Moon, a seasoned breathwork practitioner whose journey has taken him from the rigidity of the fitness world to the profound freedom found in conscious connected breathing. Together, they explore why breathwork is far more than a wellness trend. It’s

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113:53

Burnout Psychotherapist: Emilie Cocquerel - Why...

The Space Between ·

2025/12/01

Why do we run from stillness, and what might we discover if we finally stop? In this deeply honest episode, host Bevan welcomes Emilie Cocquerel, actor, storyteller, and psychotherapist specializing in burnout, for a conversation that goes far beyond surface-level self-help. Emilie brings a rare blend of creative insight and clinical wisdom, drawing from her experiences both on stage and in the therapy room. Together, Bevan and Emilie explore the hidden costs of high-functioning lives, the

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113:47

Burnout Psychotherapist: Emilie Cocquerel - Sitting...

The Space Between ·

2025/12/01

Why do we run from stillness, and what might we discover if we finally stop? In this deeply honest episode, Emilie Cocquerel, actor, storyteller, and psychotherapist specialising in burnout, for a conversation that goes far beyond surface-level self-help.Emilie brings a rare blend of creative insight and clinical wisdom, drawing from her experiences both on stage and in the therapy room. Together, Bevan and Emilie explore the hidden costs of high-functioning lives, the stories we tell ourselves

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81:33

Voice Coach: Donald Woodburn - Breaking Free from...

The Space Between ·

2025/11/25

What if the voice you use every day isn’t really yours? Today I’m joined by Donald Woodburn, renowned voice coach and performer, to uncover the hidden forces shaping how we speak, connect, and show up in the world. We break down why most people never access their true voice, how culture and upbringing shape our self-expression, and the surprising power of breath, body, and emotion in communication. Donald shares stories from his own journey, moments of raw authenticity, the impact of class and

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97:51

Embodiment Psychotherapist: Rachel Pfeiffer - A...

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2025/11/18

What does it actually mean to come home to yourself? In this episode, Bevan sits down with his wife, Rachel, for a grounded and unfiltered conversation about the realities of love, the role of suffering and the inner work required to build a life with depth.They explore how our earliest patterns shape the way we show up in partnership, why discomfort is often the doorway to growth, and how awareness can shift the entire trajectory of a relationship. This is a conversation about the stories we

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117:42

Somatic Practitioner: Alanna La Cioppa - Grief,...

The Space Between ·

2025/11/12

What if your body has been speaking to you all along, and you just haven’t learned its language yet?In this powerful episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with somatic coach and therapist Alanna to explore what it really means to live from the body. This is a conversation about feeling rather than fixing, presence over performance, and the radical act of slowing down in a world that keeps speeding up. Alanna shares her transformation from corporate life and gym culture into the world of yoga,

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74:21

Alternative Relationships: Tilly Reid - Redefining...

The Space Between ·

2025/11/02

What if love wasn’t something we fell into, but something we designed with intention?In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Tilly Reid to explore how our ideas of love, connection, and commitment are being rewritten. They dive into the ways heartbreak can become a teacher, how jealousy can reveal rather than destroy, and why so many of us are starting to question the traditional scripts around monogamy. Tilly shares her personal journey into reimagining relationships, not as rulebooks, but

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70:11

Harmonize: Gene Green- Conversations on Music,...

The Space Between ·

2025/10/26

What happens when music becomes more than sound — when it becomes a language for the soul?Join Bevan Pfeiffer in conversation with artist Mitch Bonnici (aka Gene Green) as they explore the deeper layers of creativity, self-expression, and healing. Harmonize isn’t just about music — it’s about what music reveals. Each song unpacks how rhythm, lyrics, and vulnerability can become mirrors for who we are and how we grow. Together, Bevan and Mitch dive into the emotional anatomy of songwriting, the role

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119:07

Shamanic Practitioner: Johnson Chong - Between...

The Space Between ·

2025/10/20

In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Johnson Chong. Shamanic practitioner, author, and transformational guide, for a profound exploration of what it really means to wake up. Together, they navigate the terrain where ancient wisdom meets modern psychology, asking what it takes to live, heal, and grow in a time of deep collective change. Johnson opens up about his journey from a traditional upbringing to becoming a bridge between worlds, weaving together shamanic traditions, yogic insight,

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