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Beyond Billables: Lessons from Top Law Firm Partners

The legal sector thrives on talent, but how do you ensure partner success, both generally and in relation to how new hires integrate and succeed? Hosted by Stephen Rodney, founder of IntoGreat Coaching, which provides tailor made integration programmes for laterals and, previously a veteran of partner legal recruitment. Beyond Billables is the essential podcast for law firm leaders and in house GCs. Stephen draws on both his recent coaching experience and his previous recruitment life as a

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55:15

Becoming a Great Law Firm Partner for Lawyers to...

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2026/03/24

In this episode of Beyond Billables: Lessons from Top Law Firm Partners, host Stephen Rodney sits down with Kirsten Hewson, Chair of Shoosmiths, the UK-founded full-service law firm with a growing international reach. Kirsten shares her journey from training at a local authority to becoming a planning specialist, partner, divisional leader, and now Chair of the firm.Kirsten began her career in local government before moving into private practice, joining Shoosmiths as an associate around seven years

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01:02:55

The Best Law Firm Partners Succeed in the Age of AI...

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2026/03/17

In this episode of Beyond Billables: Lessons from Top Law Firm Partners, host Stephen Rodney speaks with Aster Crawshaw, Senior Partner of Addleshaw Goddard. Aster shares his journey from studying history at university to leading a major international law firm with 21 offices across 16 jurisdictions. He reflects on his early career in private practice and in-house at EY, his path into partnership, and the experience of standing in a contested senior partner election.He specialises in advising

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59:42

What Makes a Great GC for Legal Leaders to Succeed...

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2026/03/10

In this episode of Beyond Billables: Lessons from Top Law Firm Partners, host Stephen Rodney speaks to Dr. Sandie Okoro OBE, Chancellor of the University of Birmingham and previously Group General Counsel of Standard Chartered and also Senior Vice President and General Counsel of the World Bank. Dr. Sandie shares her inspiring journey from law student to a leading figure in international finance and her commitment to diversity, inclusion, and mentoring. They discuss leadership, career progression,

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56:39

How General Counsels Can Build Resilient Legal Teams...

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2026/03/03

In this episode of Beyond Billables: Lessons from Top Law Firm Partners, host Stephen Rodney sits down with Emma Slatter, Chief Officer - Legal, Regulatory and Compliance at Visa. Emma shares her journey from private practice at Slaughter and May to a 20 year career at Deutsche Bank, and then to Visa, where she joined just weeks before a major payments outage.Emma Slatter began her legal career at Slaughter and May before moving in-house to Morgan Grenfell, which was later absorbed into Deutsche

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44:20

The Nonlinear Career Journey for Female Lawyers to...

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2026/02/24

In this episode of Beyond Billables: Lessons from Top Law Firm Partners, host Stephen Rodney speaks with Vicky Wickremeratne, senior employment partner at Simmons & Simmons. The conversation explores what it really takes to build a successful legal career across private practice and in-house roles. Vicky shares her non linear career journey, the skills that matter most for partners, and how relationship building, adaptability, and self awareness shape long term success in the law.Vicky Wick

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55:26

Law Firm Metrics for Partners to Lead Profitably and...

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2026/02/17

In this episode of Beyond Billables: Lessons from Top Law Firm Partners, host Stephen Rodney sits down with Jeanette Burgess, Managing Partner at Walker Morris, one of the UK’s leading independent law firms. Jeanette shares her career journey from aspiring police officer to leading a top firm, offering candid insights into her time in-house, her return to private practice, and her transition into law firm leadership. She discusses the real challenges of partnership, the impact of AI on the legal

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54:16

KC Success Traits for Aspiring Barristers to Thrive...

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2026/02/10

In this special episode of Beyond Billables, host Stephen Rodney steps outside the usual realm of law firm partners to sit down with a senior King’s Counsel, Jeff Chapman KC. With decades of experience at the top of the commercial bar, Jeff brings a wealth of insight into what it takes to succeed as a KC in today’s complex legal landscape. The conversation explores Jeff’s professional journey, the evolution of the barristers' profession, and the role of leadership, preparation, and purpose in

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54:35

How Senior Lawyers Navigate Lateral Moves Without...

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2026/02/03

In this episode of Beyond Billables, host Stephen Rodney interviews Joanne Owen, Global Co-Head of the Real Estate Sector at DLA Piper. Joanne shares his career journey, leadership insights, and what it takes to be a successful law firm partner. With over 20 years of experience in law, Joanne talks about his transition from DLA to Proskauer and back, and the lessons he's learned along the way.Joanne's experience spans multiple continents and legal environments, including both UK and US law firms. He

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53:27

The Failed Integrations for Law Firm Leaders to Fix...

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2026/01/27

In this episode of Beyond Billables, host Stephen Rodney sits down with Stéphane Lemarchand, Partner at DLA Piper in Paris, to explore what it truly means to build a successful and sustainable legal career at the top of the profession. With over 25 years of experience in IT and digital transformation law, Stéphane shares his journey from a curious law student to a globally respected partner and leader. This conversation dives into the evolving legal landscape, the importance of building teams, and

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56:17

What Makes Law Firm Partners Truly Successful in 2025...

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2026/01/21

In this episode of Beyond Billables: Lessons from Top Law Firm Partners, host Stephen Rodney speaks with Julian Stait, co-managing Partner and Head of the London Litigation & Arbitration team at Milbank. Julian shares his remarkable career journey, from his early days as a litigator to leading one of Europe’s top dispute resolution teams. With over 30 years of experience, Julian discusses the skills and attributes required to succeed as a partner, the evolution of law firm management, and the

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57:06

The Law Firm Culture Is Causing Lateral Hire Failure...

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2026/01/13

In this episode of Beyond Billables, host Stephen Rodney sits down with Clare Murray, Managing Partner at CM Murray LLP, to explore what it really takes to build a successful legal practice. From founding her firm after a life-changing health event to leading with vision and heart, Clare shares candid insights into the inner workings of partnership culture, law firm leadership, and the evolving legal landscape. This conversation is a deep dive into how collaboration, accountability, and strategic

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57:19

How Law Firm Partners Succeed by Leading with Culture...

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2025/12/16

In this episode of Beyond Billables, host Stephen Rodney speaks with David Stewart, Managing Director at Coriats Trust Company Limited. From his early legal roots in London to his transformative leadership at Olswang and current work with high-net-worth clients in the Turks and Caicos, David reflects on the dynamics of partnership, leadership, and building a successful career in law. This conversation offers a candid and insightful look at the evolution of law firm culture, the challenges of

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54:04

Law Firm Merger Leadership for Managing Partners to...

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2025/12/09

In this episode of Beyond Billables, Stephen Rodney speaks with Philip Rodney, former Chair of Burnes & Co, about his 40-year legal career and leadership journey. From his early days as a litigator to leading the transformation of a mid-market firm into a Scottish powerhouse, Philip shares his insights on what it takes to succeed in law and leadership. He reflects on the importance of integrity, adaptability, and collaboration, while offering valuable advice for both aspiring lawyers and current

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58:18

How Law Firm Partners Succeed by Leading Teams,...

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2025/12/02

In this episode of Beyond Billables, host Stephen Rodney speaks with Sarah Lee, former Head of Disputes and Investigations at Slaughter and May, about her journey through the legal profession and what it takes to become a successful partner. Drawing from over two decades at one of the UK’s top firms, Sarah reflects on the evolving nature of leadership, diversity, and culture in law. From career pivots to life after partnership, she shares lessons that go beyond the billables.Sarah Lee spent 21 years

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42:33

How Law Firm Partners Really Succeed by Leading Teams...

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2025/11/25

In this episode, host Stephen Rodney sits down with Sarah Rees, a leading partner in the commercial litigation team at Blake Morgan, who shares her journey from trainee to partner. She reflects on key leadership lessons, navigating the challenges of work-life balance, and the future of law firms in an evolving legal world. With decades of experience, Sarah offers invaluable insights into managing teams, integrating laterals, and what makes a successful law firm partner.Sarah Rees is a respected

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59:23

How Senior Lawyers Succeed in Big Law by Mastering...

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2025/11/18

In this episode, host Stephen Rodney sits down with John Balsdon, a former senior partner at Latham & Watkins and a seasoned leader in the energy and infrastructure project finance sector. John discusses his dynamic legal career, from his early days as a partner to his decision to retire and pursue a passion for photography. He shares invaluable insights into what it takes to be a successful law firm partner, leadership qualities, and the importance of emotional intelligence (EQ) in building

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55:10

The Lateral Moves in the Law for Partners to Avoid...

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2025/11/11

In this episode of Beyond Billables, Stephen Rodney is joined by Simon Bushell, the Founding Partner at Seladore Legal, a conflict-free litigation boutique. Simon shares his journey through top UK and US law firms before founding his own firm. With over 30 years of experience in commercial litigation and fraud cases, Simon discusses the key attributes of successful law firm partners, the challenges of integrating into different firm cultures, and the unique skills required for litigators and

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53:21

The Law Firm Success Formula for Senior Lawyers to...

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2025/11/04

In this episode, host Stephen Rodney sits down with Karen Seward, Director at Seward Advisory Limited, who has held influential leadership positions throughout her legal career. Karen offers a candid and insightful reflection on what it takes to succeed in Big Law from succeeding as a partner to navigating leadership and cultural integration. With firsthand experience leading offices, shaping global strategies, and mentoring future leaders, Karen shares critical lessons on values, resilience, and

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54:31

How Law Partners Succeed Beyond Billables by...

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2025/10/28

In this debut episode of Beyond Billables, host Stephen Rodney is joined by Simon Levine, Strategic Innovation Partner and Global co-CEO and Managing Partner at DLA Piper. With over 30 years of experience in the legal industry, Simon discusses his journey from making partner to leading one of the largest global law firms. He shares valuable insights on leadership, the qualities needed to be a successful partner, and how law firm culture impacts both personal and professional growth. Simon also

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New Episode Coming Soon!

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2025/10/21

Welcome to Beyond Billables, the essential podcast for law firm leaders where host Stephen Rodney, founder of Intogreat Coaching, tackles the critical challenge: The Integration Gap.Why do new senior lawyer hires often fail to reach their full potential, even after a successful recruitment process?Stephen and his guests will provide the tangible strategies needed to bridge that gap. Learn how to move beyond basic onboarding and ensure your most expensive talent becomes a long-term, profitable

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