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AND/BOTH Podcast - Real Conversations, Shared Experiences, and the Community You"ve Been Missing

Dr. Ashley Blackington

Hear from moms in all different scenarios doing their absolute best to honor themselves as individuals in a world that would prefer, as mothers, we not. ⁠ ⁠ Hear from moms who are trying to figure out what that "something" is after the life altering transition into motherhood.⁠ ⁠ Hear from moms that say "I know I need to do something for myself and this is what it is, but it feels impossible to do it"⁠ ⁠ What is the AND/BOTH that you are juggling with motherhood? Career, hobbies, entrepreneurship,

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All Episodes

01:07:05

104. The Transition Generation: Redefining Fatherhood...

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2025/11/14

For more than 100 episodes, AND/BOTH has shared conversations with women navigating identity, care, and capacity — and this week, the conversation widens.In this episode, I sit down with Michael Perry, founder and CEO of Maple, to talk about what it means to be part of what he calls “the transition generation” — a time when fathers are learning to show up differently, families are renegotiating what partnership looks like, and the systems that support us are still catching up.Michael is a father of

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51:38

103. How Rest Became the Riskiest Thing We Do with...

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2025/11/07

In this episode, I sit down with Jennifer Westpfahl, founder of Be.Retreats, to talk about what it looks like to build a life and a business that make space for rest, intention, stillness, and connection — and how those four pillars spell something else entirely: RISK.Jennifer shares the winding story of how B-Retreats came to life, not from a business plan or a strategic vision, but from a feeling that just wouldn’t go away. What began as a simple women’s weekend at a cabin has evolved into a

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44:00

102. The Colander List: What We Let Go to Make Room...

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2025/10/31

In this second half of my 100th episode conversation with my friend and poet Megan Leonard, we talk about what happens when we finally start letting go of what’s not working.We call it The Colander List — a way of noticing what’s naturally slipping through, what’s too heavy to hold, and what we might finally have permission to set down.This conversation isn’t about getting more efficient or organized. It’s about capacity, trust, and the space we create when we stop trying to do it all.Meg and I talk

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01:03:06

101. When Grief Shows Up Uninvited: Loss, Healing and...

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2025/10/28

This roundtable sits in the tender middle where grief and everyday life meet. Abby shares losing her sister—her person—and how that reshaped motherhood, work, and identity. Katie reflects on losing her dad unexpectedly and the decade-long evolution of grief that led to her new book, Grief Cookies and Other Comforting Things. Together we talk language (what helps, what harms), parenting through loss, making meaning without forcing timelines, and building rituals that let our people stay present in

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47:10

100. A Hundred Conversations Later: On Friendship,...

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2025/10/24

For our 100th episode, Ashley sits down (in person!) with longtime friend and poet Megan (Meg) Leonard to talk about the beginnings of AND/BOTH, the early days of motherhood, and the stubborn, beautiful work of staying true to yourself when life keeps changing. From stroller walks and kindergarten drop-offs to building creative work in the cracks of a very full life, this episode is a love letter to friendship, identity, and choosing what actually works for you.In the first part of this conversation

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55:15

99. The Birth of Caring for Mama: How Kim Richards is...

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2025/10/17

Becoming a mother changed everything for Kim Richards, not just her routines, her priorities, or her sleep schedule (though all of that, too), but her sense of identity. And like many moms, she found herself wondering: If I’m the one taking care of everyone, who’s taking care of me?In this episode, Kim shares the story behind Caring for Mama, a mission-led business she built to remind caregivers — especially mothers — that they deserve care, too.This conversation covers the real and often unspoken

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50:19

98. Happy Even After: What Divorce Can Teach Us About...

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2025/10/10

You know that moment when you realize the life you’ve built no longer fits, and it’s time to choose yourself, even if it’s messy?Renée Bauer knows it well. As a seasoned divorce lawyer (23 years in the game) and someone who’s walked through two divorces herself, she brings a rare combination of personal insight and professional clarity to a topic we don’t talk about enough -> what happens when you choose to leave.In this conversation, we talk about:Why disconnection, not drama, is what really

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52:18

97. Beyond Stage Tricks: How Hypnosis Reframes Stress...

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2025/10/03

What if the patterns you keep bumping up against aren’t actually you—but simply habits your mind has learned to run on repeat?In this episode, I’m joined by Kristyn Livermore, director of West End Hypnosis, who shares her journey from being a client herself to building a practice that helps people rewire unhelpful patterns, step out of autopilot, and reconnect with their own sense of choice.Kristyn opens up about:How hypnosis helped her rebuild confidence, release old patterns, and make lasting

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54:43

96. The Ambition Paradox: Why Workplaces Fail Moms...

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2025/09/26

What happens when motherhood collides with ambition and the systems around us weren’t built to support either?This week, Ashley sits down with Dr. Anne Welsh, a clinical psychologist, executive coach, mom of four, and advocate for working parents. Anne’s career has spanned maternal mental health, coaching women in male-dominated industries, and consulting with organizations that are (finally) starting to realize they need to do more for their working parents.In this episode, they explore:Why balance

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43:15

95. Behind the Scenes and Mic: Building Community and...

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2025/09/24

Today’s episode goes behind the scenes with my roundtable cohost, Erin, host of the PG-ish Podcast. Even though we live on opposite sides of the country and have never met in person, Erin and I can dive into honest conversations and share truths that aren’t often talked about. We chat about our own podcasts, motherhood, where we’re heading next, and what’s fueling these episodes. We believe that community, whether virtual or in-person, truly matters, and we hope to share that community with you, the

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54:58

94. Both/And: Consulting, Caregiving, and Redefining...

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2025/09/19

Career. Parenthood. Flexibility. For so long, we’ve been told these choices are black and white- either you stay in the workforce full-time or you step away completely.This week's episode features Kaleana Quibbell, a mom and corporate veteran who is challenging that story. After leaving her corporate career in internal benefits consulting, Kaleana built a new path as a part-time consultant and mom of two and in the process, she discovered countless other parents designing careers that don’t fit the

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56:18

93. Beyond “The Talk”: Everyday Conversations About...

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2025/09/12

If you grew up in the 80s or 90s, you probably remember “the talk”, one awkward, fluorescent-lit conversation at school or a quick birds-and-bees download from your parents. But as parents today, we know it doesn’t work like that anymore.In this episode of AND/BOTH, I sit down with returning guest Angie Enger, a sex and self-intimacy coach, parent, and former teen clinic sex ed teacher, to talk about what it really looks like to have ongoing conversations with our kids about sex, consent, bodies,

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58:43

92. Living With Grief: Why It Never Leaves and How We...

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2025/08/29

In this deeply honest and nourishing conversation, I’m joined by grief educator, somatic practitioner, and trauma-informed coach Mandy Capehart for a conversation that reaches far beyond loss—and straight into how we live, parent, and show up for ourselves and each other in the messiness of life.Mandy shares her personal journey through profound grief, including the loss of her mother and the unraveling of her previous life in the wake of that loss. We talk about the myth of “moving on,” what it

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01:10:37

91. Roundtable #4: The Emotional Cost of Doing It...

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2025/08/22

Support AND/BOTH:Help us offset production costs while we're growingIn this powerful and unfiltered roundtable episode, Ashley and Erin sit down with Heather Chauvin and Amri Kibbler, two women who have faced the unthinkable: a cancer diagnosis in the middle of motherhood, business, and everyday survival.Together, they open up about the moments they knew something was wrong, the delays in care, and how deeply ingrained patterns of people-pleasing and self-neglect played a role in their stories. But

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30:59

90. Introducing Dovetail: Creating Room for...

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2025/08/15

Support AND/BOTH:Help us offset production costs while we're growingAshley returns solo to kick off Season 8 with a powerful reflection on caregiving, creativity, and what it really means to support mothers as whole people. She shares updates on her digital platform Dovetail, reopens consulting hours under Home Field Advantage, and introduces two exciting new offerings: the And/Both Community (now open!) and the Nurtured Entrepreneur Retreat (coming 2026).This is a personal, grounding episode about

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54:47

[Re-Air] Layer by Layer: Solo Motherhood, Parental...

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2025/08/07

Support AND/BOTH:Help us offset production costs while we're growingIn this throwback episode, Ashley sits down with Nicole Lenzen—a solo mom by choice, former wedding dress designer, tech consultant, and now a coach specializing in parental leave transitions. Nicole shares her unique journey through multiple career paths, a major health wake-up call, and the decision to become a solo parent. After navigating an overwhelming return-to-work experience post-leave, she pivoted into coaching to help

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57:14

[Re-Air] From Grief to Growth and Rejecting External...

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2025/07/31

Support AND/BOTH:Help us offset production costs while we're growingIn today's episode, we chat with Abby Wachoff, an occupational therapist and mother, to discuss the profound impact of losing her sister to cancer. Abby shares her raw and heartfelt journey through grief, how it reshaped her life and career, and her decision to pursue a master's in mental health counseling. They delve into the complexities of motherhood, grief, and the importance of being present. Abby's story of resilience and

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49:25

87. Slowing Down to Stay Alive: Amri Kibbler on...

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2025/07/24

Support AND/BOTH:Help us offset production costs while we're growingIn this episode of AND/BOTH, we’re joined by creative visionary and women’s health advocate Amri Kibbler for a raw and necessary conversation about burnout, motherhood, entrepreneurship, and surviving not one but two colon cancer diagnoses. Amri shares how she went from editor at Glamour and co-founder of the 75,000+ member HeyMama community to navigating medical gaslighting, missed diagnoses, and the fight to be heard.We explore

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50:53

86. The Overlooked Link Between Motherhood, Money,...

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2025/07/18

Support AND/BOTH:Help us offset production costs while we're growingWhat if building a sustainable business and raising a family didn’t have to feel like a juggling act? In this episode of the And Both podcast, we’re joined by Jac White, founder of Honeybees Group and self-proclaimed “anti-make-seven-figures-in-your-sleep-by-posting-on-Instagram” sales coach. Jac gets real about building businesses, motherhood, and the money myths holding so many women back. With zero fluff and all the practical

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01:01:51

Roundtable #3- Burned Out? How to Redefine Success

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2025/07/15

Support AND/BOTH:Help us offset production costs while we're growingIn this powerful roundtable conversation, Ashley Blackington is joined again by Erin Holland (PG-ish Podcast), Dr. Cheryl Ziegler (psychologist and author of Mommy Burnout), and Allison Campbell (founder of Unburnt) for an honest, timely deep dive into burnout, what it looks like, what it feels like, and what it takes to truly recover. From the physical and emotional toll to the identity-shifting wake-up calls, this episode is both

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