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Becoming The Product

My “Becoming the Product Podcast" is an APVA-nominated show about my journey into product management. I share my experiences and insights in a diary-style format, documenting the highs and lows of my journey. This podcast is for aspiring product managers and anyone interested in product management. Whether you"re just starting or looking for inspiration, this podcast is for you. New episodes are released every Monday, offering valuable insights and firsthand experiences.

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00:06:45

You Are the Product: A New Kind of Résumé

Becoming The Product ·

2025/11/10

Not every résumé fits on paper.In this reflective episode, Naya explores how proof, process, and storytelling form the foundation of your modern résumé one that evolves with every lesson, pivot, and product you build.Because in the end, you are the product.Timestamps00:00 – 00:30 — Introduction: “You are the product.”00:30 – 01:00 — The story of being laid off and discovering the power of documentation.01:00 – 02:00 — Point 1: Your proof is your portfolio.02:00 – 02:30 — Point 2: Your process is

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00:07:39

Is It Too Late to Pivot? (No.)

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2025/11/05

This week, Naya shares her story of pivoting from banking to tech, and the three truths that helped her rebuild with clarity. If you’ve ever wondered if it’s too late to start again, this one’s for you. Spoiler: It’s not. You’re not behind, you’re just iterating.Timestamps:0:00 – 1:00 — Intro: What inspired this episode and the myth of “too late.”1:00 – 1:30 — My layoff story: From banking to blank slate.1:30 – 2:30 — Discovering tech and realizing I’d been doing “product thinking” all along.2:30 –

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00:07:19

Branding as a PM: Less Logos, More Proof

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/28

Summary:In this episode, Naya redefines what personal branding means for product managers and creatives. It’s not about logos or aesthetics — it’s about proof. She shares how documenting in real time, building in public, and aligning every creative outlet to a purpose has shaped her brand as a product builder.Key Takeaways:Branding = the proof you leave behind.Progress > perfection.Build a brand that functions, not just exists.Every piece of work you share is a micro-proof.Timestamps:00:00 –

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00:08:20

From Idea to Offering: How I Built a Service from My...

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/20

In this episode, Naya breaks down how she transformed her product management experience into structured offerings like PMaaS and Side Hustle Stories. She shares how small acts of documentation became data, how structure created clarity, and why proof always comes before scale.Key Takeaways:You don’t start by building a business — you start by building proof.Your patterns reveal your first offer.Structure creates clarity and scale.Test in public — feedback builds confidence.Your experience is your

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00:10:30

What Founders Teach Me About Product Thinking

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/13

In this reflective episode, Naya shares what working with startup founders taught her about real-world product thinking. Beyond frameworks and templates, founders taught her the value of clarity, prioritization, storytelling, and scrappy validation. She connects these lessons to her own journey building PMaaS and preparing for Dive 2025 — Africa’s biggest tech and product conference.Key Takeaways:Clarity is a discipline, not an end goal.Prioritize what matters now — not everything at

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00:08:40

Why I’m Excited for Product Dive 2025

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/06

In this episode, I talk about Product Dive 2025, Africa’s biggest tech and product conference, my role as an ambassador, and what the Becoming the Product community can gain from it. I share why this event is special to me, what to expect, and how to plug in ahead of December.Timestamps:00:00 – Intro: Something big is happening in December01:30 – What Product Dive 2025 is all about04:00 – My role as an ambassador07:00 – Why this matters to me personally10:00 – What you can get out of it13:00 – CTAs

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00:06:13

My Most Underrated Career Move: Working in Incubation

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/05

In this reflective episode, Naya shares why stepping into incubation was one of her smartest career moves — even if it didn’t look like it at first. She unpacks how working with founders sharpened her product thinking, inspired PMaaS, and gave her strategic positioning that a traditional PM role couldn’t.Key Takeaways:Unconventional pivots can sharpen unique skills and perspectives.Incubation offers deep exposure to multiple products and founders.Acting as a “fractional PM” builds operational

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00:06:02

Quiet Building as strategy

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/05

In this reflective solo episode, Naya shares why not every season of building needs to be loud. She breaks down her Q3 “quiet season,” the mindset shifts that came with it, and practical ways to document and build intentionally when visibility is low.Key Takeaways:Quiet seasons are powerful for strategy and foundation workValue doesn’t disappear just because it’s not visibleDocument your journey quietly now — share later when the time is rightSilence can be strategy, not stagnationEpisode 13: The

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00:08:17

How I Use Notion to Run 3 Hustles

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/04

In this practical solo episode, Naya shares her Notion system for managing a full portfolio career without a team. From holistic goal planning to project management across multiple hustles, and even using Notion as a website, this is the behind-the-scenes look at her real operating system.Episode 12: How I Use Notion to Run 3 Hustles00:00 – 00:38 | Introduction: How I manage multiple hustles solo00:38 – 01:21 | Life before Notion: scattered docs, sticky notes, chaos01:21 – 03:38 | Building my 2025

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00:12:52

Protecting Peace While Building Ambition

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/04

In this reflective solo episode, Naya opens up about the quieter side of ambition, the overwhelm that can come from juggling multiple creative and professional pursuits. She shares three lessons she’s applying this season to protect her peace while continuing to build intentionally: recognizing overload early, creating clear boundaries, and protecting rest and joy.Episode 11: Protecting Peace While Building Ambition00:00 – 01:03 | Introduction: Ambition can chip away at your peace if unchecked01:03

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00:06:13

From Downloads to Revenue: What I’ve Learned So Far

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/03

In this honest solo episode, Naya normalizes the messy middle of building products. Proof isn’t about instant revenue. It starts with listeners, subscribers, first sales, and community. She shares her own lessons from podcasting, launching mini courses, and validating PMaaS.Episode 10:From Downloads to Revenue: What I’ve Learned So Far00:00 – 00:42 | Why this isn’t a “10k in 10 days” story00:42 – 01:29 | Proof starts with people showing up01:29 – 02:23 | Downloads ≠ dollars: why podcasting builds

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00:07:31

What Building in Public Actually Looks Like

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/03

This week, Naya reflects on the real meaning of building in public, not just milestones, but also pauses, pivots, and messy progress. She shares lessons from falling behind, why documentation matters more than perfection, and how experiments like PMaaS add credibility even before they succeed.ShownotesEpisode 9: What Building in Public Actually Looks Like00:00 – 01:00 | Why “building in public” isn’t just shiny LinkedIn posts.01:00 – 02:30 | Falling behind in Q3 — and realizing silence is part of

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00:05:22

Designing My PMaaS: From Idea to Offering

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/02

What if you could rent a PM’s brain? In this episode, I share the idea of PMaaS—Product Management as a Service—and why I’m building it in public.Timestamps:[00:00:38] Why PMaaS? Lessons from incubation and acceleration[00:01:20] The gap: feature-heavy, user-light startups[00:02:42] What PMaaS could look like (validation sprints, MVP roadmaps, prioritization)[00:03:32] Building toward a January 2026 launch[00:03:58] Validation first, iteration over ego, community first[00:04:22] Recap: PMaaS as the

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00:08:46

Behind the Incubator: Lessons from Founders I Support

Becoming The Product ·

2025/10/02

From validation to iteration, incubation reveals the truth about product work. In this episode, I share lessons from working with startups that every aspiring PM or side-project builder needs to hear.Timestamps:[00:00:55] Landing an incubation role through community[00:02:28] Why vision without validation is quicksand[00:04:09] Iteration beats ideation every time[00:05:19] Introducing PMaaS: Product Management as a Service[00:06:05] Community as your first feature[00:07:18] Announcement: Speaking at

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00:08:01

Passive Income is Not Passive — Especially for Builders

Becoming The Product ·

2025/08/04

Everyone loves the idea of passive income, but it’s rarely passive when you’re still building. In this solo episode, I share what it really looks like to build on the side while working full-time. Let’s talk about PMaaS, proof, and planting in publicimestamps & Highlights:[00:00:00] The myth of passive income while building[00:01:00] Balancing a full-time job and building PMaaS[00:02:00] Why digital downloads and service offers still need heavy lifting[00:03:13] Teaching is marketing when you

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00:07:39

Teaching What You've Practiced: From PM to Course...

Becoming The Product ·

2025/07/28

Ever thought, “Who am I to teach this?” In this solo episode, Naya shares how surviving chaos led to teaching what she practiced, without a platform, permission, or perfect plan.Timestamps & Highlights:[00:00:00] You don’t need to be an expert to be a guide[00:00:59] From survival mode to systems[00:02:15] When DMs become demand[00:03:00] Teaching = documenting what worked[00:04:00] Your lived experience is already a framework[00:05:00] Start messy, start small, start free[00:06:29] If you’ve

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00:06:26

Digital Products Are Products Too

Becoming The Product ·

2025/07/21

Think your checklist or template isn’t a real product? Think again. In this short solo episode, Naya unpacks why digital products count, and how to turn them into proof.Timestamps & Highlights:[00:00:00] – Digital products are products.[00:00:51] – The SMART PM Roadmap story[00:01:31] – Full product lifecycle without a single line of code[00:02:01] – Templates solve real problems too[00:03:00] – From gap to launch: user research to iteration[00:04:10] – Turn your content into a case

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00:11:04

Behind the Build: GigSecure + TEF

Becoming The Product ·

2025/07/14

This one’s personal. Naya shares how a career transition exposed the gap in protections for gig workers, and how she built GigSecure to fix it.ength: ~11 minsTimestamps & Highlights:[00:00:00] – Why GigSecure didn’t start as a hackathon idea[00:00:51] – From traditional job benefits to gig work vulnerability[00:01:49] – Asking hard questions about health, savings, and support[00:02:37] – Getting validation through the TEF grant[00:03:26] – Building the MVP with Flutterflow, Supabase, Buildship,

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00:08:47

What Even Is a Portfolio Career?

Becoming The Product ·

2025/07/07

Are you tired of one-size-fits-all careers? In this episode, Naya shares how she moved beyond the traditional product path and built a portfolio career that reflects her real life and values.Timestamps & Highlights:[00:00:00] – Intro: nervous, excited, and ready to unpack it all[00:01:10] – Feeling boxed in by a single job title[00:02:01] – What a portfolio career actually is[00:03:45] – How life changes (marriage, motherhood) led to redefining work[00:04:41] – Building proof through courses,

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00:07:11

Why I Decided to Become My Own Product

Becoming The Product ·

2025/06/30

In this season opener, I’m reflecting on how Becoming the Product has evolved, from a way to break into product management to a framework for building a career (and life) on your own terms.I share how launching a podcast, building mini-courses, pivoting careers, and trusting the process helped me stop waiting for permission and start designing a portfolio career. If you've ever felt like you're more than just a job title, this episode is for you.Timestamps[00:00:00] – Welcome to Season 3 &

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