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Deseret Voices

Welcome to Deseret Voices, a weekly podcast from the Deseret News (https://deseret.com) that brings depth, nuance and respect to conversations about today’s complex topics and current events. Join our hosts, award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, every Thursday as they go beyond news headlines by talking with newsmakers and thought leaders to find common ground and uncover unique perspectives on today’s critical issues in politics, faith, sports,

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41:35

What Sports Betting Does to Your Soul

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2026/10/05

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins, author of the viral Atlantic article "Sucker: My Year as a Degenerate Gambler,” sits down with Paul Lambert of BYU's Wheatley Institute to discuss President D. Todd Christofferson's landmark talk at general conference for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, condemning gambling in all its forms.They unpack new survey data showing that 55% of American adults now gamble at least monthly and that 1 in 8 gamble

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35:59

Pluralism is America's Superpower | Judge Thomas B....

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2026/10/01

In a political climate driven by tribalism and culture wars, how can citizens move toward peacemaking and common ground? On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins sits down with former federal judge Thomas B. Griffith for a thought-provoking conversation on civic duty, constitutional values and religious liberty.Drawing from President Dallin H. Oaks’ landmark address at the National Cathedral and Elder Rob Daines’ insights on "building the other

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30:07

AI Is Moving Too Fast and the Law Can’t Stop It

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2026/09/24

Is artificial intelligence advancing so fast that our legal guardrails and democratic institutions are rendered obsolete? In this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson sits down with Harvard Law School professor and former dean Martha Minow to analyze the dangerous gap between rapid AI development and the law. From hallucinated court cases to rogue AI agents and the "liar's dividend," Minow breaks down how unbridled technological power threatens human agency and

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8:05

One Standard: Sen. John Curtis on Presidential...

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2026/09/24

Sen. John Curtis, R-Utah, called for the Senate Judiciary Committee to subpoena Donald Trump Jr. and Hunter Biden over their foreign business dealings and presidential family connections. On this bonus episode of "Deseret Voices,"he explains why he called a Russian oligarch's lavish wedding gift "corruption" and why he believes the same standard should apply to both parties.After a ProPublica investigation revealed that Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev bankrolled Trump Jr.'s

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28:22

9/11: The Morning We Broke the News | Two Anchors, 25...

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2026/09/11

On Sept. 11, 2001, Carol Lin was the first national news anchor to break the story of the attacks on CNN — while Jane Clayson Johnson was hosting the CBS morning show when the towers were struck. Twenty-five years later, these two women sit down for the first time to share what they saw, what they felt, and what they never said on air.In this 9/11 25th anniversary conversation, you’ll hear the behind-the-scenes reality of anchoring live television during the worst

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21:40

The DOJ Came After Her. She Refused to Blink.

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2026/09/11

When Utah Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson opened a letter from the Department of Justice, she discovered something alarming: Her office was under federal investigation for refusing to surrender unredacted voter rolls. In this exclusive sit-down on the “Deseret Voices” podcast with McKay Coppins, Henderson exposes the escalating standoff between state sovereignty and federal overreach. Viewers will learn how Utah’s election officials are resisting demands for

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35:29

Gov. Wes Moore on revenge, democracy, and forever wars

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2026/09/03

Governor Wes Moore reveals what Republican governors are privately telling him about federal election interference—and why he says the Iran war is becoming another Afghanistan. In this episode of "Deseret Voices" with McKay Coppins, the NGA chair and combat veteran opens up about his genuine friendship with Utah Governor Spencer Cox, what Democrats fundamentally misunderstand about Trump voters, and why 70% of Americans feel invisible to both parties.Viewers will

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31:45

We lived through 'Woke 1'. Should you be afraid of...

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2026/08/31

AOC says "Woke 1 was crazy" — but is laughing off an era of defunding the police, prison abolition and ideological conformity actually enough? On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins sits down with The Atlantic's Idrees Kahloon to ask why Democrats can't simply wash their hands of Woke 1.0 and what the party's chaotic 2026 primaries reveal about its identity crisis heading into 2028.In this conversation, you'll learn: Why Republicans will never let Democrats

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22:35

Is Canada Done Being America's Nice Neighbor?

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2026/08/28

The United States and Canada share the longest undefended border in the world, deeply integrated supply chains — and a free-trade agreement that President Donald Trump negotiated himself during his first term and called a great deal. Now, these longtime allies are locked in an escalating trade war, with 50% tariffs on $20 billion in Canadian goods and Canada retaliating dollar for dollar.Mary Ng served as Canada's minister of international trade from 2018 to 2025. She

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35:37

We're Not Running Out of Water. It's Worse.

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2026/08/22

Lake Powell is 30 feet from the point where water may stop flowing past the dam entirely and the expert who's spent his whole life on this river says we're asking the wrong question. We're not running out of water. We're running out of cheap water.On this episode of "Deseret Voices" with Jane Clayson Johnson, water law professor Rhett Larson of Arizona State University breaks down the Colorado River crisis with the nuance that headlines miss. He explains why the seven states

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24:10

Why the Border Debate Gets Migration All Wrong

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2026/08/17

While ICE detentions hit record highs and deportation flights resume across the U.S., the woman running the U.N.'s global migration agency says almost everyone is having the wrong conversation. In this rare sit-down, IOM Director General Amy Pope explains why border enforcement alone can't stop migration — and reveals the surprising playbook already working in Brazil and Italy. On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Pope, the first woman to lead the International

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24:31

In the Age of AI, What Is a University Education For...

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2026/08/10

Higher education is facing a season of disruption — from artificial intelligence and affordability concerns to political pressure, public skepticism and shifting demographics. But Baylor University President Dr. Linda Livingstone believes moments of uncertainty can also become moments of transformation.In this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson talks with President Livingstone about the greatest challenges and opportunities facing universities today

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25:10

Why Good People Cheat (And How to Stop Yourself)

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2026/08/03

Why do good, well-intentioned people make catastrophic ethical missteps? In this episode of “Deseret Voices,” host Jane Clayson Johnson sits down with Princeton University ethics scholar Dr. David W. Miller, author of “The 5 Questions for Ethical Decisions: How to Succeed Without Selling Your Soul.”Together, they explore why standard moral intentions often fail under pressure, the subtle danger of the "movable middle," and why small compromises lead to

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29:19

Is AI Erasing Religion? The Surprising New Data

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2026/07/27

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson sits down with Dr. David Wingate — professor of computer science at Brigham Young University and academic lead for the Consortium for Evaluation of Faith and Ethics in AI (CEFE-AI). Together, they explore groundbreaking research conducted across an unprecedented interfaith collaboration, uniting scholars from Brigham Young University (Latter-day Saint), Baylor University (Baptist), the University of Notre Dame

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39:31

Olivia Moultrie: Rewriting the Rules of Women’s Soccer

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2026/07/20

At just 7 years old, Olivia Moultrie wrote a note to her parents stating she wanted to be the best soccer player in the world. By 13, she had signed a historic Nike endorsement deal. At 15, she sued the National Women’s Soccer League (NWSL) to lift its age restriction — and won — forever changing the landscape of American professional sports.Now 20, and an established superstar for the Portland Thorns and the U.S. women's national team, Moultrie joins Deseret

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26:45

Protecting the Freedom to Choose — or Reject — Faith

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2026/07/13

Does religious freedom only benefit the devout or is it the bedrock foundation that keeps all civil liberties intact? This week on "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson sits down with Josh McDaniel, assistant professor at Harvard Law School and director of the Harvard Religious Freedom Clinic, to unpack the rapidly shifting landscape of the First Amendment. McDaniel explores the fascinating political evolution of religious accommodations — explaining why a right once

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35:34

Mitt Romney: Finding Faith in America Again

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2026/07/06

As the United States hits its historic 250th anniversary, the nation finds itself caught in the throes of a profound "faith crisis" — not just in its institutions, but in the very endurance of the American experiment. In this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins sits down with former senator and presidential candidate Mitt Romney for a deeply candid, reflective and surprisingly humorous conversation about legacy, leadership and life after the political

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38:07

Jon Meacham: The Fragility of the American Experiment

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2026/07/02

As the United States marks its 250th anniversary, a creeping sense of political pessimism has captured the national conversation. Are we truly living through an unprecedented era of democratic decay, or is this just another chapter in the long, turbulent history of the American experiment? In this episode of “Deseret Voices,” host McKay Coppins sits down with Pulitzer Prize-winning historian and presidential biographer Jon Meacham to unpack his latest book,

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32:48

Toxic Dust and Economic Collapse: The Real Cost of...

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2026/06/25

The Great Salt Lake is disappearing. With two-thirds of its water gone and more than half of its area desiccated, experts warn that Utah is sitting on an environmental time bomb. In this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson sits down with two leading figures at the forefront of the restoration movement to discuss the stark reality of the lake's decline, the catastrophic health and economic risks of inaction, and why there is still profound hope for a

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56:37

Behind ‘The Chosen’: Miracles, Milestones, and the...

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2026/06/18

How does a crowd-funded project about Jesus Christ become a global phenomenon? In this episode of "Deseret Voices," guest host Sheri Dew sits down with Dallas Jenkins, the creator, director, and co-writer of “The Chosen,” for an intimate, behind-the-scenes conversation as the groundbreaking series films its final season.Dew and Jenkins take a trip down memory lane to early 2020, revealing the untold miracle that allowed “The Chosen” to film its second

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