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PODCAST

Handle with Care

Adam Charlap Hyman and Laura Kugel

A podcast by interior designer Adam Charlap Hyman and antiques dealer Laura Kugel, featuring guests who are usually irreverent, often idiosyncratic, and always experts in their corner of decorative arts and interior design. Loosely defined, the field becomes a springboard for conversations spanning art, design, collecting, antiques, theatre, architecture, history, and photography. While the topics may vary, each conversation possesses the same emotional and ideological core: to interrogate the

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All Episodes

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Episode 12: Mitch Owens

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2026/09/28

In Episode 12 of Handle with Care, Adam and Laura speak with design historian, editor, and writer Mitch Owens on the occasion of the release of the September/October 2026 issue of The Magazine ANTIQUES, for which Adam served as Guest Editor. Mitch, once the Editor in Chief of this paper of record for collectors, has also held senior positions at The World of Interiors, Architectural Digest, and ELLE Decor during his impressive career. Highly respected within the world of decorative arts and...

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Episode 11: Ralph Rucci

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2026/07/02

In Episode 11 of Handle with Care, Adam and Laura meet the great couturier, Ralph Rucci, who founded his company Chado Ralph Rucci in 1980. Rucci was the first American designer in more than 60 years to be invited to show in Paris by the French Chambre Syndicale de la Haute Couture, then showing his collections for the next five seasons. Recording from his Upper East Side apartment lined with plate glass mirrors, and simultaneously perusing the scrapbooks he makes after each collection, Ralph...

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Episode 10: Lucas Zwirner

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2026/06/18

This conversation with Lucas Zwirner was recorded on the occasion of "Set in Stone", the collaborative exhibition between David Zwirner and Galerie Kugel, which closes on June 26th. In this episode, Adam speaks with Lucas and Laura about growing up in major art-dealing families and why family galleries continue to thrive in the art market. The conversation also explores whether taste can be inherited, the role of art books in our increasingly fast-paced world, and how one should cultivate t...

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Episode 9: Felix Burrichter

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2026/05/07

In Episode 9 of Handle with Care, Adam and Laura speak with the brilliant Felix Burrichter: curator, editor, publisher and founder of PIN—UP: The Magazine for Architectural Entertainment, a first of its kind publication where Felix now serves as Editorial & Creative Director. Recorded ahead of PIN—UP 40, the Spring/Summer 2026 Issue and the magazine’s 20th anniversary, Felix discusses the early days of PIN—UP, what it is like to create each issue from scratch, his collaborations with gues...

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Episode 8: Marie-Anne Derville

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2026/04/30

In Episode 8 of Handle with Care, Adam and Laura meet interior decorator, furniture designer, scenographer, and friend of the pod Marie-Anne Derville, who has in recent years become one of the most interesting and widely followed decorators in the industry. Over tea in her wonderful apartment in the centre of Paris, they explore her distinctive and intuitive way of approaching interior decoration and her own practice. Marie-Anne discusses her early days in the world of design alongside Pierr...

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Episode 7: Louis Bofferding

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2026/04/23

Episode 7 of Handle with Care is really the show’s pilot. Adam and Laura interviewed Louis Bofferding over a year ago, in his fabulous Manhattan treasure trove. Louis is a dealer in art and design, an art historian, and an inimitable storyteller. He specializes in the lesser-known or forgotten stories of artworks and has a rare ability to set the scene and transport you back to the moment an object was made. The trio discuss the cornerstone topic of provenance, not from a legal perspective b...

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Episode 6: Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn

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2026/03/05

In Episode 6, Adam and Laura visited Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn, founder of Salon 94 and Salon 94 Design, at her home on 94th Street — configured as part gallery, part entertaining space, and part family home. In her beautiful living room, surrounded by a painting by Julie Mehretu, a table by Diego Giacometti, a steel bow stool by Maria Pergay, and a whimsical ceramic gourd by Taxile Doat, they discussed Jeanne’s views on cross-collecting, the need for a renewed generation of design patrons, an...

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Episode 5: Peter McGough

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2026/02/12

In Episode 5, Adam and Laura speak with New York–based artist Peter McGough. In 2019, Peter published his remarkable memoir "I’ve Seen the Future and I’m Not Going: The Art Scene and Downtown New York in the 1980s", recounting with wit and sincerity the story of his artistic duo with David McDermott, their experience as time-travellers reliving through the Victorian era, and his encounters with Keith Haring, Jean-Michel Basquiat, and Andy Warhol, among many others. In this episode, Peter sha...

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Episode 4: Zack Winokur

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2026/01/29

In 2026, Handle with Care returns with Episode 4, featuring New York–based theatre and opera director and producer Zack Winokur. In this episode, Adam and Laura dive into the art of set design, with Adam and Zack reflecting on their long-standing collaborations and how their shared belief in the power of world-building for the stage has evolved over time. The conversation moves between various influences, from 18th-century trompe l’œil to radical contemporary productions, including a show fe...

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Episode 3: Robert Couturier

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2025/12/04

In Episode 3, Adam and Laura visit Robert Couturier, a legendary interior decorator who discusses the philosophical and psychological sides of the profession. With his infectious humor and enthusiasm, Robert speaks about how he worked with only one (fabulously wealthy) client for ten years, shares tips for working on the interiors of private jets, and unpacks how he built the multifaceted and international practice he has today. Find out more about Robert Couturier here, or follow him @real_r...

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Episode 2: Pierre Marie

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2025/11/28

In Episode 2, Adam and Laura speak with the inimitable Pierre Marie. A self-described ornamentalist, he works at the crossroads of artist, designer, and decorator and is a true world-builder. After starting his career designing scarves for the great house of Hermès, he now collaborates with exceptional artisans across ancestral practices to create new objects and textiles. His work spans rugs, tapestries, stained glass, mosaics, and more. In this episode, Pierre Marie shares his singular vis...

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Episode 1: Dominique Nabokov

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2025/11/18

In Episode 1, Adam and Laura visit legendary photographer Dominique Nabokov at her New York flat. Dominique’s first interior photography series was commissioned by The New Yorker in 1995, when the magazine asked her to capture “portraits” of notable New Yorkers by photographing their living rooms, but free of their residents. The result, later dubbed “interior photography portraiture,” featured the homes of Susan Sontag, Allen Ginsberg, Oscar de la Renta, Diane von Furstenberg, Joan Didion, a...

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Teaser with Astrid Malingreau

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2025/11/12

For this teaser episode, Adam and Laura are joined by friend of the pod Astrid Malingreau, who spearheads design gallery Friedman Benda in Paris. The tables are turned as she interviews them to answer one simple question about Handle with Care: why do we need a podcast about interiors and decorative arts? Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_ And special guest Astrid @astridmlgr Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_ And special guest Astrid @astridmlgr

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