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#186 | Melissa Oholendt and Karl Adalbert | Mysa Hus...

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2026/10/05

Two years, 32+ brand partners, 3,700 visitors, countless design debates, and enough Diet Cokes to fuel a small construction crew. Mark Williams sits down with Karl Adalbert and Melissa Oholendt to reflect on the wild ride that was Mysa Hus, from pitching the original vision to watching the team turn that vision into something far bigger than a spec home. They talk creativity, wellness, craftsmanship, healthy tension, and why the relationships built along the way may be the best part of the whole

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25:59

Losers are Winners | Trapper Roderick and the $4.4M...

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2026/10/01

What do you do when your investor relationship goes sideways halfway through a spec home? Trapper Roderick joins Mark for a very honest Losers Are Winners conversation about refinancing mid-build, pricing a $4.4M Park City spec, walking away from the wrong client, and how some of the biggest wins in business start with things going spectacularly wrong. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/events The host of

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55:56

#185 | Ryan Rutzick | All, Inc. | Ryan Rutzick on...

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2026/09/28

Ryan Rutzick took a third-generation family business, helped turn it into an ESOP, and then dropped millions on a second showroom. Totally normal Tuesday, right? Mark and Ryan dig into succession, big business bets, leadership, and why sometimes the biggest risk isn't making the wrong decision, it's refusing to make one at all. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/events The host of the Curious Builder

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27:37

Losers are Winners | Jeremy Huson on Getting Hacked,...

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2026/09/24

Jeremy Huson joins Mark for a Losers Are Winners episode full of cybersecurity horror stories, hard-earned lessons, and a few "please don't click that" moments. From phishing scams and ransomware to AI-powered attacks and the importance of backing up your data, Jeremy breaks down how small businesses can protect themselves before the bad guys come knocking. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/events The

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01:03:38

#184 | Nick Schiffer | NS Builders | Nick Schiffer...

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2026/09/21

What happens when you put Mark and Nick Schiffer in a room with 12 unanswered questions and absolutely no plan? A Curious Builder variety show, obviously. The two builders riff on everything from social media and business growth to conflict, trust, money, ego, family, and the wildly questionable decision that became Nick's 45 White Oak project. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/events The host of the

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25:14

Losers are Winners | Mark on Big Goals & the...

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2026/09/17

Big goals are great until you actually accomplish them. In this solo Losers are Winners episode, Mark talks about the strange emotional hangover that can follow a massive project, a 50-mile race, or any other mountain you've spent months climbing, and what he's learning about finding purpose on the other side. Expect some honesty, some philosophy, and at least one questionable analogy involving hay, caves, and being a shark who can't sit still. Support the show -

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01:08:17

#183 | Melissa Oholendt | Oho Interiors | The Great...

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2026/09/14

Two years, one incredible house, and Melissa Oholendt and Mark decided the perfect way to reflect on Mysa Hus was to draw up a chopping block for $500,000 worth of cuts. The pool goes, the wellness studio nearly goes, and the plumbing fixtures take a serious demotion from luxury unlacquered brass down to something considerably less fancy. It closes with a surprisingly emotional detour into why finishing this house felt like raising a very expensive, very beautiful fourth child. Support the show -

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28:06

Talking Shop | Brad Robinson on the AI Habit That's...

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2026/09/10

Brad Robinson is putting AI to work, but he's not letting the robots take over just yet. He and Mark Williams talk about AI bots, automated CRMs, financial reporting, and the surprisingly powerful art of picking up the phone. Plus, they explore why authenticity, hospitality, and wellness may be the next big competitive advantage in custom home building. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/events The host

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01:04:58

#182 | Billy Beson | Billy Beson Co. | Building a...

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2026/09/07

Billy Beson returns with a résumé that includes decorating an actual presidential palace, mentoring half of the design world, and somehow still finding time to launch a brand new art gallery in his "retirement." He and Mark dig into what makes interior design an emotional art, why hoarding trade secrets is a losing strategy, and why kindness might be the most underrated business skill there is. It wraps with a story about paper clips being declared "dangerously low," which is somehow one of the

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26:44

Losers are Winners | The Construction Mistakes Brad...

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2026/09/03

Brad Leavitt is finishing his own house, past his original move-in date, and has never felt more empathy for his clients in his life. He and Mark cover the SOP gaps that keep showing up project after project, why ghosting in real estate is somehow legal and completely maddening, and what it actually costs when a spec home sits longer than expected. Also: scorpions versus mosquitoes, and Minnesota wins. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events -

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01:17:10

#181 | Wilson Harwood | Soundproof Your Studio |...

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2026/08/31

Wilson Harwood has thought about nothing but soundproofing for six years, and Mark gave him a full hour to prove it. They cover why the quietest room in the world makes people fall over, how a perfectly square tile shower becomes an acoustic disaster, and what builders can actually do to make homes meaningfully quieter without going full recording studio. Mark even brings up Mysa Hus and gets his work graded live, which takes some guts. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop

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21:18

Winners are Losers | Adam McChesney on the $113,000...

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2026/08/27

Losers are Winners is back with Adam McChesney, who signed away equity in his business for what sounded like a great deal and ended up in an eight month legal battle instead. Mark and Adam talk about the self confidence gap that almost sank him, why he rebuilt bigger and better once the dust settled, and why he now believes collaboration happens at the top while competition happens at the bottom. Mark even breaks out a horse analogy about pulling three times the weight together, and somehow it lands

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01:03:20

#180 | Lauren Riddei | Haus Holistics | Lauren Riddei...

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2026/08/24

Lauren Riddei's body basically staged an intervention on her career, and the fallout turned her into one of the sharpest voices in healthy home design working today. She and Mark talk biomimicry, why your front door should act like a filter, and why bigger houses might be making us sicker instead of happier. It ends on birds building the perfect nest, which somehow makes total sense by the time you get there. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events

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31:41

Inside the Big Wins | Gabe Norcross on Squeaky Floors...

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2026/08/20

Mark brought Gabe back to Mysa Hus one more time to talk about the thing that actually makes a house feel like a home, and it is not the granite. They dig into why cracked plaster is a compliment, why Gabe writes hidden notes inside the walls he builds, and why Mark thinks every builder is secretly a choir conductor. It ends on a tattered flag analogy that will hit different if you have ever weathered a storm of your own. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming

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01:00:13

#179 | John Brenard | Southview Timberland...

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2026/08/17

Mark spends half this episode geeking out over where lumber actually comes from, and honestly, so will you. John Brenard breaks down why the southeast grows the best trees in the world, why his fund treats a forest like a factory and a warehouse in one, and why a 1919 two by six might just be tougher than anything framing a house today. Mark even brings up Settlers of Catan to explain it, so buckle up. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events -

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18:41

Losers are Winners | Gabe Norcross Returns to Finish...

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2026/08/13

Gabe Norcross is back for part two of Losers are Winners, and Mark doesn't let him off easy this time. They get into why raising his rates cost him a client but saved his business, the difference between bending and breaking, and how losing his house three years ago cracked open a whole new set of dreams he never would have found otherwise. It ends on a quote Gabe carries with him now, broken crayons still color, and honestly Mark's already designing the merch in his head. Support the show -

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01:00:34

#178 | Tanner Konrady | Konrady and Son Construction...

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2026/08/10

Tanner Konrady swore he'd never be a builder, then one Christmas break with a hammer changed his mind for good. Now he runs a 26 person company in coastal North Carolina, building healthy homes and a property services business, all while handing his eight year old a sledgehammer on weekends. Mark and Tanner talk windows nobody should open, hiring, and the leadership lesson hiding in a butt joint. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events -

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22:51

Losers are Winners | Gabe Norcross on the Deposit...

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2026/08/06

Gabe Norcross came back from Contractor Coalition, fired a bad client, set up an investment account, and hired a bookkeeper, all before the next coalition. He and Mark talk through the quiet financial discipline that finally started working, why most builders become the bank for their own clients without realizing it, and what it actually feels like to turn a profit and not feel guilty about it. Short, practical, and genuinely useful. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See

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01:12:52

#177 | Gabe Norcross | Norcross Builders |...

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2026/08/03

Gabe Norcross built other people's dreams while quietly drowning in his own, and for eight months he told nobody. He and Mark talk through the project that cost him everything, the photo he took of himself on a beach that he still pulls up when he needs it, and what it looks like to rebuild a life from the inside out when you finally decide you are worth saving. This one will stay with you. Support the show - https://www.curiousbuilderpodcast.com/shop See our upcoming live events -

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26:37

Losers are Winners | Ashley Ortiz vs. the Client From...

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2026/07/30

Ashley Ortiz joined the podcast with a client story so fresh the paint was still wet, and somehow it only got worse from there. She and Mark swap war stories about nightmare clients, whether specifying coat counts in your contract actually protects you, and why the painter always gets blamed even when it is the drywaller's fault. It ends with a mutual agreement that some jobs you just have to get out of as fast as possible and count the lessons instead of the losses. Support the show -

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