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You Can Be Both

Lauren Lanzaretta

You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are. As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healing & Resource Guide” - go to www.youcanbeboth.com for this and other resources. Join the You Can Be

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01:29:43

"I'm Gay, Not Queer" -- Matthew Vines FINALLY...

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2026/10/11

What happens when one of the most well-known gay Christian voices becomes the target of criticism from within the LGBTQ+ community? In this episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Matthew Vines to address the controversy surrounding his New York Times article, “I’m Gay, Not Queer. It Matters.” Matthew responds directly to the criticism that he is too conservative, too focused on acceptance, or trying to conform LGBTQ+ people to traditional Christian values. He explains what he actually

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01:18:03

Christian Nationalist to Deconstructing Everything:...

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2026/10/06

What happens when you start questioning everything you were taught about God, Christianity, women, relationships, and your own identity? In this episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Hope with Holly to talk about Christian nationalism, religious trauma, deconstruction, patriarchy, relationships, and finding the freedom to become your authentic self.Holly spent years deeply involved in evangelical Christianity and eventually began questioning the fundamentalist beliefs she had been

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00:30:03

“Unwanted" Same-Sex Attraction — Can You Stop Being Gay?

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2026/09/27

Can you really change your sexual orientation? And why is same-sex attraction “unwanted” anyways?In this episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren takes a deeper look at the “ex-gay” movement and the idea of “unwanted same-sex attraction.” She explores the difference between sexual orientation, trauma, shame, self-destructive behavior, and healing—and asks whether the goal should be changing your sexuality or actually healing from the experiences that shaped how you see yourself.Lauren also talks about

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01:05:43

He Was Gay, Christian & Celibate… Until He Questioned...

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2026/09/20

What happens when you’re gay, you love Jesus, and you’ve spent years believing those two things can’t coexist?In this episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Brian Nietzel, LGBTQ+ advocate and co-founder of Renovus and the Making Things Right project, for an honest conversation about faith, sexuality, family, and finding peace with God.Brian shares his journey from conservative Christianity and years of celibacy to coming out, wrestling with Scripture, and realizing he didn't have to

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01:05:40

Lesbian Relationships: Sex, Exes & Everything We...

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2026/09/13

What makes a healthy lesbian relationship work? How do you navigate communication, conflict, intimacy, and keeping the spark alive?In this episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Dr. Lorri Sulpizio, a leadership psychologist, relationship coach, and director of the Conscious Leadership Academy at the University of San Diego, for an honest conversation about lesbian relationships—the good, the bad, and the ugly.They discuss dating, attachment, boundaries, relationship trauma, navigating

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01:18:06

Gay, Christian & Married: Their Fight to Belong in...

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2026/09/06

What happens when two gay Christian men fall in love—but one of them is a pastor?In this deeply personal episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Kade Rogers and Dr. Greg Neal, a married gay Christian couple whose journey brings together love, faith, coming out, church, and the struggle to live authentically.Greg is an ordained pastor and theologian who spent years wrestling with his sexuality, faith, and the fear of what coming out could mean for his ministry. Kade came from a very

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00:54:37

This Lesbian Christian MMA Fighter Refused To Give Up...

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2026/08/30

What happens when you're told you can't be gay AND have a relationship with God?In this episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with professional MMA and bare-knuckle fighter Miranda Barber for an honest conversation about being lesbian, Christian, family rejection, relationships, faith, and finding your purpose.Miranda shares her story of coming out as a teenager, leaving home at 17, finding her identity in Christ, and learning not to let other people's opinions determine her

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01:04:15

What Happens When You’re GAY in an Ultra-Orthodox...

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2026/08/24

What happens when you grow up believing there is only one path to God… and then realize that path requires you to deny who you are?In this powerful episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Dr. Sara Glass, a psychotherapist, author, and lesbian who was raised in an ultra-Orthodox Hasidic Jewish community in Brooklyn.Sara shares what it was like growing up in a deeply religious community where girls were prepared for marriage from a young age, sexuality was heavily controlled, and questioning

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00:43:37

You Were Raised to FEAR God & Hell — But Here’s Why...

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2026/08/16

What happens when the voice you were taught to believe was God’s voice becomes the voice telling you that you’re going to hell?In this powerful episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with licensed psychotherapist SC Nealy, an LGBTQ+ affirming therapist specializing in religious trauma, LGBTQ+ issues, and relationship counseling, to unpack what happens when faith, identity, shame, fear, and trauma become intertwined.SC shares their personal experience growing up in an ultra-conservative

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00:40:42

STOP Street Preaching: Why It’s Driving People...

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2026/08/09

Is street preaching actually biblical — or is it pushing people further away from Jesus?In this episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren Lanzaretta takes a deeper look at street preachers, aggressive evangelism, and the Christians who show up at Pride events with signs of condemnation. After several uncomfortable encounters with street evangelists herself, Lauren asks an important question: Is this really how Jesus taught Christians to reach people?We look at what the Bible actually says about evangelism,

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00:50:26

What Every Christian Parent Should Do When Their...

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2026/08/02

What should Christian parents do when their child comes out as gay, transgender, or nonbinary? In this deeply personal episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Shari Bruck—a mother of two LGBTQ+ children—to discuss faith deconstruction, religious fear, unconditional love, and what it truly means to support your child.Raised in a strict Catholic family, Shari grew up surrounded by religious shame, guilt, patriarchy, and the belief that there was only one acceptable path to God. As she began

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01:02:57

Bible Scholar DESTROYS the "Being Gay Is a Sin" Argument

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2026/07/19

If you've ever wondered whether you can be both LGBTQ+ and Christian, this conversation is for you.In this powerful episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Mattie Mae Motl—a progressive Bible scholar, Master of Divinity graduate, and PhD candidate studying gender, sexuality, and the New Testament—to unpack some of Christianity's biggest questions.Together they discuss:✨ Is being gay really a sin?✨ What the Bible actually says about LGBTQ people✨ The "clobber verses" explained✨ Why Jesus

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01:05:33

How This Black Baptist Pastor Became an LGBTQ...

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2026/07/12

In this powerful conversation, Lauren Lanzaretta interviews Pastor Kristian Smith—a straight, fifth-generation Baptist preacher and fierce LGBTQ+ advocate—about his journey from embedded homophobia to becoming one of the most vocal allies in the Black church community.Kristian shares how a simple question asked in seminary—"Did you choose your sexuality?"—completely transformed his theology. He discusses why so much homophobia is rooted in sexual discomfort, the importance of visibility in Black and

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00:50:47

America Turns 250... But Is There Really Freedom for...

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2026/07/04

Together, they discuss:🇺🇸 What America's founding ideals actually promised✝️ The rise of Christian nationalism and how it differs from Christianity🌈 Why LGBTQ rights remain under attack📜 The meaning behind "all men are created equal"❤️ How Christians can resist fear and choose love instead🙏 Why fighting for equality is one of the most American things we can doRather than giving up on America, Lauren and Tim explore why the country's 250th birthday can be an invitation to continue working toward

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00:32:47

Supporting Pride Month ISN'T Anti-Christian—It's the...

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2026/06/28

Pride Month isn't about celebration. It's about survival.Lauren Lanzaretta breaks down the hard truth about why LGBTQ people need Pride Month in 2026. And why the criticism, the bills, the "Straight Pride Month" debate, and the political weaponization of trans people prove we need it now more than ever.THE FACTS:10+ countries execute people for being gay60+ countries criminalize same-sex relationships27 U.S. states can still legally fire you for being LGBTQ (despite federal protections, there are

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00:52:36

From Rejecting Her Gay Son to Hugging Thousands of...

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2026/06/21

Sara Cunningham, founder of Free Mom Hugs, shares the powerful story of how she went from rejecting her gay son to leading an international movement that has impacted hundreds of thousands.It wasn't easy. When Sara's youngest son came out to her at 21, she didn't take it well. She was frozen in fear — terrified he would be condemned to hell, convinced that accepting him would make her a sinner too. She shamed him with the very best of intentions.But everything changed in 2014 when her son invited

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00:57:36

Gospel Singer Lost Everything When She Came Out as...

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2026/06/14

For more than 20 years, Leah Rae Yawn (formerly Shafer) was a gospel worship leader at Saddleback Church. She sang for Women of Faith, worked with Michael W. Smith and Natalie Grant, recorded multiple albums, and sung the national anthem at NFL games. Her voice and faith were her livelihood, her heart, and her life.Then she came out as gay — and lost it all.In this powerful episode of You Can Be Both, Leah Rae opens up about her journey from a strict Christian upbringing to realizing she was

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01:54:40

PROOF that "Homosexuality" Was Never in The Original...

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2026/06/07

For nearly 2,000 years, the word "homosexual" did not appear in the Bible. So what changed in 1946?Kathy Baldock is a leading voice on LGBTQ+ issues within Christianity and the author of "Forging a Sacred Weapon" and "Walking the Bridgeless Canyon." She's also featured in the award-winning documentary "1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture." In 1946, Bible translators made a controversial decision to add the word "homosexuality" to the

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00:53:13

"Testify to Love" Singer Michael Passons: Kicked Out...

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2026/05/31

Michael Passons was a founding member of Avalon, one of the biggest Christian music groups of all time. He wrote and performed "Testify to Love," a song that became an icon of Christian music. But when he came out as gay, he was forced out of the band and lost everything.Now, Michael is rewriting his story — and breaking records doing it. He just rereleased "Testify to Love" as an LGBTQ+ affirming anthem with country artist Ty Herndon, and together they became the first openly

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01:02:14

God WANTS Me To Be Gay -- A Former Pastor's Coming...

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2026/05/24

Mike Maeshiro spent 14 years as an instructor at Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry — teaching, preaching, and living what he thought was his calling. But there was one problem: he was gay.From age 10, Mike knew he was different. He tried conversion therapy. He dated a woman to "fix" himself. He climbed the evangelical ladder at one of the most influential charismatic churches in the world — all while suppressing who he really was.Then in 2020, everything changed. A Taylor Swift

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