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Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders

Vulture & New York Magazine

Join host Sam Sanders as he guides you through the biggest pop culture stories, trends, and ideas we can’t stop thinking about. With help from Vulture friends and the occasional celebrity, Into It is answering all of the important questions. What summer blockbusters are worth your time? Do we really know Taylor Swift? What does the future of TV look like? New episodes drop every Tuesday and Friday. From Vulture and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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36:10

We Will Never Recover From What Justin Did to Britney...

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/10/27

In our final game of "Into It/Not Into It," comedians Naomi Ekperigin and Andy Beckerman, hosts of the Couples Therapy podcast, put their marriage on the line... for the sake of culture. Sam asks if they're into Michelle Williams' narration of the Britney Spears memoir The Woman in Me (thus completing our Holy Trinity run of Britney-themed episodes), strike-approved Halloween costumes, and a new study that shows Gen Z wants to see less sex on screen.We also hear about the culture that's haunting

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34:35

Britney Was Always Trying to Tell Us Who She Was

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/10/24

Britney Spears' memoir The Woman in Me is out today. But we're taking this moment instead to revisit the songs we never stopped listening to — and what she was trying to tell us all along, through the music. Sam talks with writer and critic Maura Johnston about what Britney gave to her body of work, and how her voice and sound — augmented, auto-tuned, yet authentic — ushered in a new era of pop music and pop stardom. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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29:01

What Britney Reveals, and What George Clooney Wants...

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/10/20

Britney Spears’ memoir comes out next week, but details are already emerging. From snake-handling to Justin Timberlake (redundant?), Sam is processing it all with Into It’s BFF, comic and writer Jay Jurden. Speaking of problems, the actors still have one: their strike keeps going, and now George Clooney and Tyler Perry are putting on pressure to resolve it. Plus, are we Into or Not Into Netflix’s brick-and-mortar ambitions? And at the very end, Sam has some important news to share. Learn more about

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28:13

It’s Not Just Scorsese. Why Are Movies So Long?

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/10/17

Long movies have often been associated with prestige, so it makes sense that Killers of the Flower Moon is three hours and 26 minutes. But Avengers: End Game clocking in at more than three hours? Come on. Vanity Fair’s Natalie Jarvey and Sam talk through all the factors skewing movies longer, from bidding wars between streamers that give directors more power and control, to IP franchises demonstrating that audiences will tolerate longer movies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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32:44

Jada & Will Deserve an Oscar for Their Marriage...

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/10/13

News came out this week that Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith have actually been separated since 2016... and we have so many questions. Did Will ruin his career for a roommate? What was the Red Table Talk for? Who is this family's live-in producer? Traci Thomas, host of The Stacks podcast, and Chelsea Devantez, writer, comedian, and host of Glamorous Trash, help break down the week in culture with Sam. We also ask if they're into a possible reboot of Seinfeld and dissect what is going on with

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47:51

Why Are Celebrities So Bad at PR?

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/10/10

Whether you’ve filmed your awkward apology video from the comfort of your own kitchen or a corner of your palatial backyard, you can bet Molly McPherson, aka “PR Lady,” will be analyzing it on TikTok. She brings her PR industry bona fides to the world of celebrity scandals, and there’s been a lot for her to talk about lately. She and Sam discuss Lizzo’s response to allegations she mistreated her dancers, Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis’s character letter about Danny Masterson, Drew Barrymore’s

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33:09

Are Bed Bugs and Katy Perry Out for Blood?

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/10/06

Bed bugs in Paris? Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom entangled in yet another real estate lawsuit? U2 at The Sphere? Sam wraps up the week in culture with comedians Dylan Adler and Sam Oh. Also, we're bringing back our culturegeist segment at the end of the month. Do you have a thing in the culture that's been haunting you? Tell us about it. Record a short voice memo and send it to intoit@vulture.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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38:34

Tech Bros Laid the Foundation, But Women Built Social...

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/10/03

The story of social media has usually been told from the perspective of tech bros, set to a soundtrack by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. Washington Post columnist Taylor Lorenz argues in her new book, Extremely Online, that the real protagonists of the story are actually the users, who figured out what these platforms were best at before the people who invented them did. “Venture capitalists act like Mr. Beast invented it all,” Taylor says. “It was mothers, women, marginalized people, LGBTQ people.”

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39:19

The Writers' Strike Is Over; What Does Hollywood Do Now?

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/09/29

After a contentious five months, the writers' strike is officially over. What does that actually mean for the writers themselves, the studios, and the future of TV and film? Sam digs into the aftermath with Vulture editor Josef Adalian and TV critic Kathryn VanArendonk, including the wins for the WGA and the smaller post-Peak TV market its members will be walking back into. We also hear from Into It producer Travis Larchuk, fondly remembering the Star Wars-themed Galactic Starcruise hotel at Disney

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45:54

Hip-Hop Is 50 and It’s Having a Midlife Crisis

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/09/26

So much of the coverage of hip-hop’s 50th birthday has been fawning. Congratulatory. Devoid of meaningful critique. All that despite the fact that the art form has been soaked through with misogyny and homophobia from day one. So how do you celebrate hip-hop’s accomplishments while asking it to do better? Sam talks to journalist Kiana Fitzgerald, author of Ode to Hip-Hop, on how the women of hip-hop are leading the way today… but at what cost? And he catches up with hip-hop scholar Jason England,

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40:14

Hasan Minhaj’s Broken Truths, and Taylor Swift’s...

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/09/22

Comedian Hasan Minhaj admitted to making up biographical stories involving racism and Islamophobia in his standup specials. Sam asks our BFF, comedian Jay Jurden, what the line is between comedic embellishment and lying, and how the revelations will affect other marginalized performers. Also this week, will one more teacup ride stem Disney’s streaming losses? Sam and Jay discuss Disney’s $60 billion bet on its theme parks, whether Taylor Swift’s latest puzzle stunt shows us that Swifties are getting

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40:07

How to Game the Billboard Hot 100

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/09/19

Is it just us or has the Billboard Hot 100 felt... weird this year? It's the same chart that's seen Doja Cat's "Paint the Town Red" hit No. 1 — the first rap song to rise to the top spot in more than a year — as well as Oliver Anthony Music's controversial "Rich Men North of Richmond" and a remix of an old song by The Weeknd. Is the Billboard Hot 100 actually measuring what people are listening to these days? Can we trust it to tell us about the most popular music? Sam talks with Switched on Pop's

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34:10

The Backlash to Drew Barrymore

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/09/15

This week, Drew Barrymore announced her daytime TV talk show would return despite the ongoing Hollywood strikes. That prompted a public outcry and a rescinded invitation to host the National Book Awards. Drew seems to be getting the most flack, but she isn't the only TV host coming back this fall. Sam checks in with Vox's Alex Abad-Santos and Rebecca Jennings about the latest on the writers' and actors' strikes and where the celebrities are turning now that the red carpets are off-limits. We also

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29:55

Is Rotten Tomatoes… Rotten?

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/09/12

Rotten Tomatoes is the place you go when you want to figure out whether or not to see a movie. It aggregates reviews on its “Tomatometer” and tells you whether a film is “fresh” or “rotten.” But its math formula sucks, and it’s easily manipulated. New York Magazine’s Lane Brown did a deep investigation into how Rotten Tomatoes works and tells Sam all the ways studios game the ratings on Rotten Tomatoes, how Hollywood publicity now revolves around the site, and highlights how the whole system has

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42:50

Olivia Rodrigo and the Year of the Girl

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/09/08

As Olivia Rodrigo releases Guts, we take stock of the singer-songwriter who seemed to come out of nowhere, fully realized as an artist, back in 2021. How did Olivia surprise us so much before, and can she repeat her success a second time? Sam chats with Lindsay Zoladz, pop music critic at The New York Times, about the dualities of Olivia Rodrigo: She's an artist who is both quiet and loud, young and old at heart, and a former Disney child star whose lyrics are a gut punch. We also trace her

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32:15

The Real Bad Behavior Behind Reality TV

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/09/05

Allegations and complaints about working conditions, fair pay, and even covering up acts of sexual violence could force a reality TV reckoning. OG Housewife Bethenny Frankel is calling on her fellow colleagues to unionize, and last month NBCUniversal — home to such reality heavy hitters as The Real Housewives empire, and Vanderpump Rules — was sent a letter from two very high-powered attorneys investigating the "grotesque and depraved mistreatment" of its reality stars. How did we get here? sam

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39:43

Here’s What’s Worth Watching This Fall

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/09/01

Yes, the writers’ and actors’ strikes mean a lot of reality on TV and delayed releases for movies this fall. But there are some standouts. Sam talks with Vulture’s Jen Chaney and Chris Lee and learns that with shows like Lessons In Chemistry, starring Brie Larson, and films like May December, starring Julianne Moore and Natalie Portman, you could want for nothing. Sam also gets recommendations of things you might have missed this summer from Sam Fragoso, host of the Talk Easy podcast, who explains

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41:31

From #BookTok to Goodreads, Novelist Brandon Taylor...

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/08/29

For our first Into It Book Club pick, Sam talks to Brandon Taylor about his latest novel The Late Americans. Set in Iowa City, the book follows a group of lovers and friends who are navigating the world of art, love, sex... and graduate school. We also ask about the broader discourse around books today: In the age of #BookTok and Goodreads, what should readers expect from writers? And —for Brandon, in particular — what's the line between reviewing an author's published work and the author

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33:23

Did Taylor Swift Curse Scooter Braun? And Will Fyre...

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/08/25

Justin Bieber. Demi Levato. Ariana Grande. Idina Menzel. All are reportedly dropping their manager, Scooter Braun. He’s one of the biggest players in the music industry, and Taylor Swift apparently hates him enough for owning her masters to be rerecording all her old music. Sam Sanders talks it over with comedian and TV writer Jay Jurden. Also, Jay and Sam decide if they’re into the Suits renaissance and marvel at the return of the Fyre Festival. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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49:48

Chance the Rapper Looks Back on the Impact of 'Acid Rap'

Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders ·

2023/08/22

"A rap game Ferris Bueller." "Fun and life affirming." That's what Pitchfork called the buzziest mixtape of 2013: Chance the Rapper's Acid Rap. The mixtape launched Chance's career and put him alongside some of the biggest artists in hip-hop. To commemorate Acid Rap's 10-year anniversary, Sam chats with Chance about his time touring with Mac Miller, Donald Glover, Eminem, and Macklemore after the mixtape's release; his relationship with Kanye West; and how hip-hop — and his own view of politics —

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