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Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness

Kim & Penn Holderness

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness is an evolution of The Holderness Family Podcast, which began in 2018. Laugh Lines is all about aging better together and being able to laugh about getting older. The show features prominent experts, listener call-ins, and hilarious segments including “Are We Too Old For…” and “Gen Z Slang of the Week.” Kim and Penn Holderness are award-winning online content creators known for their original music, song parodies, comedy sketches, and weekly podcasts. Their

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43:32

ADHD, Alzheimer’s & Life Lately

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/04/07

This week, Penn and I share some real-life updates from our house. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD at 50, which turns out… there were signs. I’m learning what that actually means for my brain, my emotions, and honestly, my entire life up to this point. (Something called “doom piles” should have honestly exposed my ADHD years ago.)Penn also shares an update on his journey to protect his brain health from Alzheimer’s. We talk about what he’s trying, what we’re learning, and how we’re thinking about

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51:34

Finding Joy Anyway with Kate Bowler

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/03/31

There are some conversations that feel like a warm hug. They make you laugh, feel safe, and a little like you want to cry. Today's show is all of the above. This week on Laugh Lines, we sit down with New York Times bestselling author, podcast host, and Duke University professor, Kate Bowler. (And I’m just going to say it... I would like to formally submit my application to be her best friend.) Kate’s new book, Joyful Anyway, asks a question that stopped me in my tracks: What if joy isn’t something

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40:44

Is This 50? (Happy Birthday, Kim!)

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/03/24

My favorite human is turning 50! If you know my wife, Kim, you know she is very self-deprecating and adorable about getting older. Kim thought 50 might feel like a big, Oprah-level moment. (Like angels singing... all-knowing wisdom... maybe a sudden ability to fold a fitted sheet.) Instead, it’s been a mix of gratitude, a little existential panic, and a lot of honest questions like:Is this what 50 is supposed to feel like?In this episode, we look back at what Kim thought 50 would be (Golden Girls,

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52:38

Make Sleep Suck Less with Dr. Chris Allen

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/03/17

If you’re celebrating the rare night when you don’t have to get up to go to the bathroom… welcome. You are among friends. Sleep is one of my favorite topics. Penn and I often joke that I don't have FOMO (Fear of missing out) I have FOMS (Fear of missing sleep). As much as I love sleep, I also struggle with it. So this week, we invited Dr. Christopher J. Allen (also known as "Sleep Dr. Chris") to help us figure out why sleep gets harder as we age and what we can actually do about it.In this episode

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57:51

The Emotional Side of ADHD with Dr. Tamara Rosier...

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/03/10

Last week I shared that I was diagnosed with ADHD at 49. It was a big moment for me, and judging from your messages (thank you for those!) it resonated with a lot of you too. So this week, Penn and I continuing the conversation with someone we absolutely adore, ADHD expert Dr. Tamara Rosier. In this episode we dig into something that doesn’t get talked about nearly enough... the emotional side of ADHD.Why do ADHDers feel things so big?Why can small moments feel overwhelming?Why do shame,

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45:53

Surprise... Kim Has ADHD (Part 1)

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/03/03

For years, I’ve stood on stages and said, “Hi, I’m Kim. I don’t have ADHD, but I love and support people who do.” Penn and I wrote books, made videos, and chatted on podcasts about it. I’ve given advice about how I partner with my ADHD husband and parent my ADHD son. And then (at almost 50 years old) after an extensive evaluation process and a lot of hard conversations, it turns out...I have ADHD too. Surprise.In this episode, we talk about my journey, why the signs were always there, and how I was

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50:15

Bridging the Political Divide with Roy Cooper

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/02/24

This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I sit down with former North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper to talk about bridging divides in a world that feels angrier by the minute. And yes, we know - politics can feel exhausting. But this conversation felt different. It felt human. It felt hopeful. It made us smile.Governor Cooper shares why he believes we are not as divided as social media makes us think, what it takes to work across party lines, and how faith has shaped his life of public service. We also

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53:30

When You Speak Different Love Languages with Dr. Gary...

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/02/17

If you’ve ever thought, “I'm showing love to my partner, so why don’t they feel it?” This episode is for you. This week on Laugh Lines, we’re talking to the actual human who gave us the phrase “love language.” Yes. The one, the only... Dr. Gary Chapman. Dr. Chapman is the man behind the famous book, The Five Love Languages. He joins us to talk about what happens when you and your person are speaking completely different love languages, and why dialect of a love language is also important.'Acts of

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58:56

Creating Friendships That Matter with Jennifer Wallace

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/02/10

This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I talk about something that sneaks up on a lot of us in midlife: friendship, purpose, and the quiet fear of wondering if we still matter the way we used to. We’re joined by New York Times bestselling author Jennifer Wallace (straight from Oprah to Laugh Lines!) who explores why feeling seen, needed, and valued isn’t just nice... it’s essential to our well-being. The three of us dig into what “mattering” really means, why so many adults feel lonelier than they

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40:23

This Is Who We Are

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/02/03

The world feels heavy and instead of trying to joke our way around that, this episode is about sitting with it. This week, Penn and I talk about how a post we made about hope turned into a political statement, the process behind the scenes, and how we're feeling. We are very lucky to have a fun job, but it doesn't mean it's not challenging in times like these. Sometimes it's hard to make comedy when you want to cry.We know you came for the humor, we hope you'll stay for the humanity. Penn and I are

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43:27

If You Need A Laugh Right Now

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/01/27

This week calls for a hug and cookie cake that says “Happy Birthday” (even though it’s nobody’s birthday... more on this in the show.) If you’re feeling worn down, overwhelmed, or just need a break from everything feeling so heavy, this episode is for you. We’re talking about the little things that make us laugh when the world feels like too much.Snow day chaos. January being the longest Monday of the year. Dogs in slow motion. Buying dessert for no reason. Letting your spouse be a dancing bear

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1:04:25

Debunking Health Trends with Dr. Eric Topol

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/01/20

What do collagen powders, weighted vests, parasite cleanses, and protein bars all have in common? (According to our favorite no-nonsense doctor, probably a lot less science than TikTok would like you to believe.) This week on Laugh Lines, we’re welcoming back the wonderfully persnickety Dr. Eric Topol to help us debunk the health trends that keep popping up in our feeds (and in our shopping carts.)After our last conversation, we were flooded with listener emails, voicemails, and questions, so this

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44:45

New Year, Slightly Improved Me

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2026/01/13

Happy 2026, we're back! It’s a new year, but instead of "new year, new me" I am going with "new year, slightly improved me." Mostly because I stopped caring... well, that's not true (but more on that in the podcast.) In this episode of Laugh Lines, we’re easing back into the groove of things with medium energy, big feelings, and some good laughs. We talk about the emotional whiplash of having a college kid home and then watching them leave again, the surprisingly effective wake-up call of a dog

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45:28

Best of Laugh Lines 2025

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2025/12/23

If you ever rode rear-facing in a station wagon or took a “fart walk” to survive the holidays… welcome home. This week, we’re wrapping up 2025 by revisiting the moments that made us laugh hardest, cry a little, and feel deeply connected to you this past year. (Thank you for your voicemails and emails into the show. Our listeners are the heart of Laugh Lines and we cannot wait to keep it going in 2026!)This episode is a love letter to the Laugh Lines community. We’re checking back in with some of our

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1:02:29

College Breaks & Changing Relationships with Dr. Lisa...

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2025/12/16

When our daughter went off to college, I expected that she would change and she has. In a completely amazing, independent way. What I didn't expect is that we would change too. Now, she's home for holiday break and we're both navigating this changing relationship with no roadmap. (Time to call in an expert for some advice!)This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I are joined by one of our favorite humans and parenting expert, Dr. Lisa Damour. She helps us navigate this weird, wonderful in-between that

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50:56

Holiday Bare Minimum

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2025/12/09

If you’re here for a perfectly curated tablescape, a stunning holiday gift guide, or expert tips on how to make your mantle look like the cover of a magazine… sweet friend, this is not that podcast. Welcome to the season of doing less, and honestly? It feels amazing.This week, I’m declaring a personal holiday revolution: I am officially going medium. No more crying on Christmas Eve because I tried to hand-bake, hand-tie, hand-craft, and hand-everything my way into the “perfect” holiday. Penn and I

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1:00:20

Men for Menopause with Jesse Robertson

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2025/12/02

What do you get when a man hears a podcast, has an epiphany in his garage, and decides to educate millions of guys on TikTok about menopause? You get Jesse Robertson (the creator behind Husbands for Menopause) and one of our favorite conversations ever.This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I sit down with Jesse to talk about how he started spiraling (in a good way!) into understanding menopause, better supporting his wife, and educating millions of men. Our conversation digs into why men absolutely

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44:46

Stuffing Is Wet Bread & Other Hot Takes

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2025/11/25

It’s Thanksgiving week, which means two things: delicious food and at least one unhinged opinion... or several. Here's the deal, the estrogen has left my body and my perimenopause is gonna tell it like it is. Penn and I dive headfirst into all things turkey season, like why I start Christmas music in November, whether turkey is actually just a gravy delivery system, and why perimenopause isn't so bad.We revisit the USPS uniform - thanks to an absolutely iconic voicemail from a mail carrier named

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49:45

Aging Is Actually Awesome

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2025/11/18

Even though I do miss the collagen in my neck, you couldn’t pay me to be 25 again. (As it turns out, aging is pretty awesome!) This week Penn and I are talking about the things we’d never want to relive from our twenties and the surprising joys of getting older... including reading your comments! Thank you for sharing some truly unfiltered thoughts about thongs, weddings, and Taco Bell at 2 a.m.Before we get into the meat of show, Penn issues a formal apology (or seven) to our new favorite listener,

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1:02:53

The Truth About Longevity with Dr. Eric Topol

Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness ·

2025/11/11

What’s the secret to living longer and better? (Spoiler: It’s not a cold plunge or protein popcorn.) In this episode, we sit down with the brilliant Dr. Eric Topol — cardiologist, scientist, and author of Super Agers — to separate fact from fiction in the world of longevity.We learn that blood tests are getting really good, GLP-1 drugs show real promise, and to always call Dr. Topol before you buy something TikTok tells you to. We cover everything from protein myths, weighted vests, and saunas to

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