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TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up

The TrapDraw is No Laying Up’s podcast playground for all topics beyond the world of golf. Episode formats vary week to week and usually include Chop Sessions (where hosts TC & Randy explore their many eclectic interests), The Booth (where Neil & Cody interrogate each other), Interviews (with subject-matter experts from a wide swath of society), and Perfect Clubs (in-depth examinations of pop culture phenomenons). Through the TrapDraw members of No Laying Up are able to share glimpses into their

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376: 2026 Goals

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/12/31

In what’s become a favorite holiday tradition - it’s our annual Goals podcast with Soly, TC, Neil, DJ and Randy. As is our custom, we evaluate our options and christen 2026 as the “Year of …….”, review our 2025 goals and set out our goals for the upcoming year.Check out East Sands Golf Co. to get your 2026 travel planned: https://www.eastsandsgolf.co/nlu Support our sponsors: Rhoback Whoop Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Timestamps: 00:00 -

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375: Chop Session

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/12/18

Randy and TC gather for a final 2025 chop session as we put a bow on the year with some holiday mea culpas, life updates, watching and reading lists, national & world news, non-golf sports updates and more.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Rhoback FanDuel.com/NLU Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here:

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374: The BallKnowers

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/12/11

Randy, Neil and Poosh convene for a session of ballknowing as the end of the NFL’s regular season looms. Among our agenda topics on the pod: the current state of the Chiefs, NFL quarterback cycles, the potential collapse in Philly, tight division races, coach of the year candidates, and more.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Stone Creek Coffee FanDuel.com/NLU Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter

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373: Chop Session

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/12/04

The Big Guy returns to chop with TC and offer some mea culpas, run through a list of thrills and delights, our monitoring list and some non-golf sports updates.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Stone Creek Coffee Whoop Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast If you enjoyed

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372: Chop Session with DJ

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/11/25

TC and DJ take care of some mea culpas and recent bird watching accusations directed towards Soly, check in on some baseball and football news and notes, debut our “things that are sick” nominations, and work through our monitoring list.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ FanDuel.com/nlu Stone Creek Coffee Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No

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371: The BallKnowers

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/11/20

Poosh, Randy, and TC check in on the playoff races as we head into week 12 of the NFL season. We also offer a list of what we’re sure of, and a few things we need to figure out with eight weeks to go until the playoffs begin.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Rhoback FanDuel.com/nlu Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel

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370: Chop Session

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/11/13

Randy and TC chop for the first time in almost a month. On our agenda we’ve got some air travel thoughts amidst the government shutdown, recent cooking exploits, college and pro football musings and the latest coach firings, our global monitoring list, and more.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Holderness & Bourne Stone Creek Coffee Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter

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369: Seamsters Union - Clayton Kershaw and AJ Ellis...

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/11/06

The Seamsters are ready to put a bow on the 2025 Season, but we’ve gone to the bullpen to call in our resident catcher AJ Ellis and the recently retired World Series Champ, Clayton Kershaw. After a thorough breakdown of one of the most memorable Fall Classics in the history of the sport, we look towards the offseason, the looming labor fight around a new CBA, and review our over/under predictions from back in March. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation:

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94:37

368: The BallKnowers with Matt Ryan

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/11/04

Tron and Neil offer some quick updates and mea culpas before we welcome a true knower as Matt Ryan talks through the current state of the NFL, quarterbacks - and how certain QBs are enjoying a career revival after early struggles, his favorite playcallers and players to watch and his transition into broadcasting for CBS and a ton more. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Rhoback Whoop Subscribe to the No Laying

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367: Chop Session with DJ

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/10/30

With DJ in Jacksonville we squeezed in an in-person chop session with TC to clear out our monitoring list covering recent travels, world news, bird watching, DVD collections, and more.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Stone Creek Coffee FanDuel.com/nlu Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here:

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95:43

366: How an Apparel Business Gets Built

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/10/30

As a part of Neil and TC’s trip through Upstate New York for our travel series video project we chatted with Alex Holderness and John Bourne, the founders of Holderness & Bourne. Originally, we planned to cut up the interview as a part of our video project, but we’ve decided to release the interview in full as we learned about their backgrounds, how they started their parallel company, and how their journey parallels NLU’s story as well. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation:

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94:14

365: The Booth Vol.23

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/10/23

Cody and Neil return for another Booth to offer Mea Culpas and request some from the audience as well. We also discuss Neil’s move to the burbs, hardware store loyalties, what we’re watching, making sense of content feedback on social media, Neil's appearance on a panel at Columbia, and more. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Rhoback Stone Creek Coffee Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter

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364: Chop Session

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/10/15

Randy and TC chop on a robust agenda highlighted by power ranking US Transportation Secretaries, the Big Guy’s trip to Green Bay, and our customary list of global items we’re monitoring.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Holderness & Bourne FanDuel.com/nlu Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here:

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363: Seamsters Union: Brent Rooker & Playoff Baseball

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/10/10

The Seamsters welcome Brent Rooker back to the TrapDraw for a review of his season with the A’s and a chance to properly nerd out on the state of the playoffs with his takes on what we’ve seen thus far in the 2025 postseason. We close the pod with “Good Take - Bad Take” as Brent evaluates some of our hottest baseball opinions.Disclaimer: We recorded on Thursday afternoon prior to both NLDS Game 4s. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our

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362: BallKnowers with Bob Sturm

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/10/08

Our sensei of schematics, Bob Sturm, returns to talk all things NFL with Tron and Randy. The first half of our chat covers various storylines from around the league before we look back at Bob’s career in Dallas and his arrival on the heels of the era of Cowboys football featured in the recent documentary. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Omni Hotels⁠FanDuel.com/nlu Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter

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361: Chop Session with Cody

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/10/02

TC and Cody chop it up on a robust agenda of topics from lawn care, current events, upcoming travels and a bevy of monitoring topicsJoin us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Stone Creek Coffee Rhoback Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast If you enjoyed this episode, consider

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88:37

360: BallKnowers with Bob Sturm

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/09/24

TC and Randy bring on a true friend of the pod in Bob Sturm for a team by team breakdown of what we’ve seen across the NFL through the first three weeks of the season, and we get an update on the standings in our teams draft.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Holderness & Bourne FanDuel.com/nlu Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast

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359: 2025 Airports - Pete Buttigieg

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/09/17

It’s TrapDraw Infrastructure Week as Randy and TC chat with former US Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg on a range of topics from his favorite airports and biggest travel frustrations to the air traffic controller shortages, airline industry trends, the emergence of EVs and high speed rail projects and a ton more.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Stone Creek Coffee Holderness & Bourne Subscribe to the No

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358: Seamsters Union - Heading for Home

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/09/12

The Seamsters hold our final meeting of the 2025 regular season to look at the close division and wild card races. Then, Randy plays the role of game show host and asks DJ and Soly to guess five players based on their less than ideal second half stats and we close with some thoughts on MVP, Cy Young, and Rookie of the Year award candidates.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Rhoback FanDuel.com/nlu Subscribe to the

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357: Chop Session with DJ

TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up ·

2025/09/05

DJ subs in for Randy on this week’s chop session with a robust agenda including our mea culpas and monitoring list, tennis, baseball, recent travels and - in a shocking turn of events - the potential return of The Commish.Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: ServPro⁠ Rhoback FanDuel.com/nlu Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here:

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