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The Way They Were

The podcast where every celebrity split is the one that got away. Each week comedians Grainne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate take a deep dive into a celebrity breakup, chosen by a special guest, that still lingers in their hearts and minds. We scour interviews, over-analyse iconic pictures and search for meaning in post-breakup media statements. Celeb gossip hounds will feel right at home, but really anyone who"s experienced a breakup can appreciate hearing how the rich and famous take heartbreak

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18:34

Gossip! Lily Allen and David Harbour fallout, Ariana...

The Way They Were ·

2025/10/31

This week on The Way They Were, we’re catching up on all the heartbreak, hair dye, and high drama of the celebrity world. Lily Allen’s West End Girl has landed, a sharp, funny, furious record that lays her split from David Harbour bare. We talk through the fallout, the shock, and the pussy palace. Elsewhere, Ariana Grande’s got 'new' hair but no ponytail. What does it mean? Finally we’re checking in on a few of our favourite couples: JoJo Siwa and Chris Hughes (Gráinne’s not convinced they’ll make

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76:43

Emergency Episode - Lily Allen and David Harbour with...

The Way They Were ·

2025/10/24

This week on The Way They Were, we’re diving into the breakup that everyone’s talking about: Pop Princess Lily Allen and Stranger Things star David Harbour. It was the lockdown love story that looked like a rom-com London girl meets Hollywood nice-guy, until it all went a little bit strange. Now Lily has a new album out which is going to set the record straight about the hottest romance to come out of the global pandemic. Gráinne and Chantal are joined by the wonderful Rosemary Mac Cabe who shares

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17:59

Emergency Episode! Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban...

The Way They Were ·

2025/10/03

Sometimes the gossip gods hand you something so big you have to drop everything and run straight to the mics. . . Several days after the event (sorry we had a busy week)Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman. Over. Finished. Kaput. Was it the hair? The cowboy boots? The fact she's constantly working? This week, Gráinne and Chantal react to the breakup of Australia's greatest love. For our special Taylor Swift edition, ad-free episodes, bonus content, and access to our exclusive gossip chat room, join

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85:41

Kevin Bennett: Rita Hayworth & Orson Welles

The Way They Were ·

2025/09/30

She was Hollywood’s “most agreeable” girl, he was cinema’s golden boy genius. Rita Hayworth and Orson Welles looked like the dream couple – but behind the glamour it was all drama, long distance, and the inability to separate work from pleasure. This love story from the golden age of Hollywood even features brilliant cameos from Hedda Hopper, Gloria Vanderbilt, and Judy Garland herself. Gráinne and Chantal take a trip to 1940s Hollywood with the fabulous ⁠Kevin Bennett⁠, host of ⁠The Big Smoke

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66:38

Chris DeRosa: Brittany Murphy & Ashton Kutcher

The Way They Were ·

2025/09/16

A whirlwind romance that burned bright, fizzled fast, and left the tabloids confused as to what just happened. Ashton and Brittany gave us chaos, comedy, and a very short-lived love story. This week, Gráinne and Chantal are joined by Chris De Rosa, cohost of Fixing Famous People, to relive the highs, the lows, and the red-carpet PDA of one of the naughty's best celebrity pairings. We may even get some special insights from Chris's conversations with the afterlife…For extra episodes, ad free

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78:14

Natasha Devon: Dawn French and Lenny Henry

The Way They Were ·

2025/09/02

She was the Vicar of Dibley and he the king of Comic Relief. Together, they were the King and Queen of British comedy. Dawn French and Lenny Henry were the nation’s funniest couple but behind the gags and the glitter, their marriage had ups, downs and an unforgettable night out with John Sessions.This week on The Way They Were, Chantal and Gráinne are joined by broadcaster, campaigner and author Natasha Devon to unravel the love story that made us laugh, broke our hearts, and proved that even

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34:41

Bonus: Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne

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2025/07/25

This week on a very special The Way They Were, we’re lighting a black candle and cranking up the Sabbath, because Ozzy Osbourne has taken his final bow.In honour of the man, the myth, the prince of Darkness, Gráinne and Chantal dive into his decades-long, chaotic, and somewhat violent marriage to Sharon Osbourne. Was it true love or the ultimate power couple? We look at one of the longest rock 'n' roll romances of all time. We'll be back next week with brand new episodes! Learn more about your

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20:21

Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom? Special Gossip Preview

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2025/06/26

Welcome to the very first edition of THE GOSSIP — where Chantal and Gráinne crack their knuckles, flip open the tabloids, and say the quiet bits out loud. You asked for it. And by asked, we mean demanded in the DMs.This week: Katy and Orlando’s break-up comes under the microscope as our cupids try to figure out what has gone wrong between the interstellar popstar and the former elf/pirate. Plus we announce the return date of The Way They Were! (5th of August, mark your diaries!) Join us on

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82:15

Stuart Laws: Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner

The Way They Were ·

2025/05/02

It’s the season finale, and it’s time for Bennifer! No, not that Bennifer. We’re talking about the sequel duo: Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner — and things are getting messy. Gráinne and Chantal have called in Alias superfan and casual observer of all things Affleck, Stuart Laws, to help make sense of this rebound for the ages.From Daredevil to that bizarre Oscars speech — and what was the deal with the nanny? We’re covering it all. PLUS, we reveal our big end-of-season surprise: the brand

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72:57

Alice Hopkins: Gwyneth Paltrow & Chris Martin

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2025/04/18

Light a pungent candle, get yourself comfortable perched on a jade egg, and prepare to consciously uncouple as The Way They Were dives into the iconic noughties love story of Gwyneth Paltrow & Chris Martin. Just remember, nobody said it was easy...Hosts Gráinne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate welcome BBC Radio 1’s early-morning queen Alice Hopkins to explore this revolutionary pair. From the most iconic child name in celebrity history to the ultimate euphemism for a breakup, this duo rewrote the

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77:07

100! Paul F. Tompkins and Janie Haddad Tompkins:...

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2025/04/11

They thought that love could keep them together, but not even a Captain could weather this romantic storm. So pour yourself a piña colada, weigh anchor, and yacht rock into the night for the spectacular 100th episode of The Way They Were!Our very own centurions, Gráinne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate, are joined by comedy power couple Paul F. Tompkins and Janie Haddad Tompkins to explore the heartbreaking love story of Captain & Tennille. So grab your elastic bands, slap on your skipper’s

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71:12

110: ELEANOR MORTON: PRINCESS MARGARET & LORD SNOWDON

The Way They Were ·

2025/04/04

Pour yourself a gin, pop on your pearls, and dust off your stiff upper lip as hosts Gráinne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate peer behind the velvet curtains of royal heartbreak in this special episode of The Way They Were. Joining them for a jolly good gossip is comedian, author, and undisputed queen of feminist history books, Eleanor Morton. Together, they'll dissect the delightfully doomed romance between the original royal rebel, Princess Margaret, and the roguishly charming Lord Snowdon

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66:54

108 MICHELLE SHAUGHNESSY: SYLVESTER STALLONE &...

The Way They Were ·

2025/03/21

This week, we're getting into a real Rocky romance—the kind with muscles, shoulder pads, and more drama than the entire Rambo franchise. Yes, it’s the short, wild, and gloriously roided-up love affair between Sylvester Stallone and Brigitte Nielsen. Helping Gráinne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate make sense of it all is the effortlessly glamorous comedian Michelle Shaughnessy—a woman with a deep love for the ’80s and a not-so-secret crush on Sly.From secret love notes to interfering mums, we’ve

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107 GLEN MOORE & KATIE STOREY: FRASIER AND LILITH

The Way They Were ·

2025/03/14

Hey baby, can you hear the blues a-callin’? It’s time to toss some salad and scramble some eggs. And this week, we’re serving up a full plate. This week, British comedy power couple Glenn Moore and Katie Storie join Gráinne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate to psychoanalyse one of TV’s most cerebral couples: Lilith Sternin & Frasier Crane. Their romance spanned three sitcoms and four decades. From their barbed exchanges in Cheers to their sensual years in Frasier, and we promise we aren't going

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67:16

106: MILO EDWARDS: JANE BIRKIN & SERGE GAINSBOURG

The Way They Were ·

2025/03/07

Love is in the air—or should we say Je t’aime… moi non plus? Comedian Milo Edwards joins Gráinne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate for a deep dive into France’s most effortlessly cool couple: Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin.A whirlwind romance of cigarette smoke, black paint, and an unfortunate incident with a ruler, their love defined an era—though, like a well-worn Birkin bag, it didn’t stay pristine forever. This week, it’s the most French episode of the podcast so far. Learn more about your

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6: The Way They ARE: Bill and Hillary Clinton

The Way They Were ·

2024/12/06

In the final instalment (for now) of this off shoot seriesof the main show, Grainne and Chantal get to the heart of why love and politics DO mix... at least in the case of Bill and Hilary Clinton, a power couple in just about every sense of the word, despite a few ummmm challenges that is. See you next week for The Way They Were Christmas special, maybe it's time to look at the lasting love of Mr and Mrs Klaus? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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4 The Way They Are: JFK Jnr & Carolyn Bessette

The Way They Were ·

2024/11/22

In our next instalment of our mini-series, The Way They Are,Chantal and Grainne explore the tempestuous - and ultimately tragic - love story of JFK Junior and Carolyn Bessette, which was as overtly passionate, as it was stylish. As we know the lives of this beautiful young couple were cut way too short, so our hosts imagine what this romance could have been if it was allowed to run its full course. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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3 The Way They ARE: Meryl Streep & Martin Short

The Way They Were ·

2024/11/16

Chantal is back in the chair for this episode of The Way They ARE - and what JOY she is spreading, as she presents to us the elusive, but very much celebrated and newish love that appears to have formed between two of showbiz's most loved stars ... Meryl Streep and Martin Short! Grainne nearly jumped out of her seat when the realisation hit that we would be revelling in this most well deserved happy endings, the likes of which most movies could only dream of! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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21:56

2 The Way They ARE: Abraham & Mary Todd Lincoln

The Way They Were ·

2024/11/08

In the second outing of the little cousin of The Way They Were - aka, The Way They ARE - it's Grainne's turn to present us with a couple, who despite all odds, managed to keep their wedding vows. And in this case 'till death do us part' was probably the promise that saved them from the scandal of the divorce courts. And in Abraham Lincoln and Mary Todd's day, it was probably easier to suck it up and hope they didn't have to stay wed in the afterlife! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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71:03

103: Dominick Pupa: Sonny & Cher

The Way They Were ·

2024/10/05

Today's episode is iconic in just about every way, there's the guest, comedian, drama queen and all-round deity, Dominick Pupa, and there's the couple he picked for us... and it's happened, as this week we get to delve into the world of the patron saint of the show and her erstwhile husband - It's Sonny and Cher! For a while they got each other babe, but ultimately, they had to deal with life after love when things fell apart. It's a belter of a way to end this current series, but fear not,

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