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The Greener Way

FS Sustainability

The Greener Way is your podcast for exploring the big environmental, social and governance questions. Each week, The Greener Way will focus on deep conversations with investment and corporate experts who are deeply engaged in managing the sustainability challenges facing our planet. From climate change to biodiversity, human rights and modern slavery to corporate purpose and governance, we tackle head-on the nuances and trade-offs of our complicated world. The Greener Way is the podcast of FS

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16:36

Do emission targets matter? 2026 Report Insights

The Greener Way ·

2025/10/06

In this week’s episode of The Greener Way, Michelle Baltazar, Executive Director of Media at FS Sustainability, chats with Julia Lesky, Managing Director and Senior Consultant at ISS Sustainability in Australia, about the latest report from ISS's Climate and Nature Innovation Lab that evaluates corporate emission targets.They discuss the importance of setting ambitious climate goals, the challenges of comparing different types of targets, and how investors can use this information to achieve

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17:04

Transparency and ESG in private credit

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2025/09/29

Criticisms of private credit are typically focused on its opaque nature; as a recent ASIC report pointed out, transparency is scarce.As an ESG-led manager, Woodbridge Capital believes there’s nothing more important than transparency – and that investors working with private credit managers that don’t prioritise it put themselves at risk.Woodbridge Capital chief executive Andrew Torrington joins The Greener Way to discuss the evolving private credit landscape, what ESG implementation looks like

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21:31

Safeguarding children's rights in the age of AI:...

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2025/09/22

Join host Michelle Baltazar on The Greener Way as she discusses the vital topic of children's rights with Ross Teverson, regional team lead at Federated Hermes.Explore how companies must integrate safety by design in AI development, the risks of indiscriminate AI content, the rising need for regulatory consistency across global markets, and recent legislative developments aimed at safeguarding children's rights in a tech-driven world.01:40Understanding the 'S' in ESG02:00Federated Hermes' role and

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18:14

Invest like a business owner: Insights from Jai...

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2025/09/15

In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Jai Mirchandani, founder and CIO of Elm Responsible Investments.Jai provides an in-depth look at sustainable investing, discussing the importance of long-term business ownership, the impact of current climate policies, and what sets his fund apart from ESG-led fund managers.He also shares his views on fintech and renewables, and explains the role of private markets in driving innovation for a sustainable future.This podcast uses

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23:37

From engineering to climate policy: Frankie...

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2025/09/08

In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Frankie Muskovic, the newly appointed Executive Director of Policy at the Investor Group on Climate Change (IGCC). Frankie shares her unique journey from an engineering background to the forefront of climate policy. She shares key priorities that the IGCC brought to a recent governmental round table discussion, emphasising the need for ambitious climate targets for 2050, the economic benefits of decarbonisation, and effective

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26:40

Climate transition by numbers: Insights from Bjarne...

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2025/09/01

In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Bjarne Graven Larsen, founder and CEO of Qblue Balanced, on the hard numbers behind climate transition.Graven Larsen explains how defining and measuring climate transition involves measuring a company's societal value creation, emissions reduction, and green innovation capabilities.He highlights the challenges faced by investors in supporting transition companies and the importance of adopting a balanced approach.This podcast uses

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21:07

Clearing up the confusion on product labelling

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2025/08/25

Is it still the wild, wild west on product labelling for sustainable investments? In this podcast, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Dug Higgins, Head of Responsible Investment & Real Assets for the broader Zenith Group, on how financial advisers can benefit from a more rigorous debate on how investment managers address ESG and sustainability. He also explains why not all greenwashing claims are created equal, why disclosure alone isn't enough and why sustainability reporting must pass the pub

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22:50

The 'S' in ESG: Challenger's Charlotte O'Meara on...

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2025/08/18

In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Charlotte O'Meara, head of responsible investment at Challenger.They delve into the issue of modern slavery and how an investor network representing $12 trillion FUM hopes to fight it.The episode highlights the efforts and frameworks developed by Challenger to assess and address modern slavery risks in their investments, particularly in the supply chains of their portfolio companies, as well as the broader industry collaboration,

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16:10

Rethinking stewardship: JANA's Rachel Halpern on...

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2025/08/11

In this episode of 'The Greener Way,' host Michelle Baltazar chats with Rachel Halpern, head of sustainability at JANA Investment Advisors, about the pivotal role asset consultants play in the evolving landscape of institutional investment.They discuss the integration of ESG themes, debunk the misconception around sustainable investing hurting returns, and explore key investment trends.Rachel also shares insights on how regulatory requirements and improved data could shape future investment

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20:55

Understanding TCorp's Approach to Climate Change and...

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2025/08/04

In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the inaugural investment stewardship report by TCorp with the company's head of investment stewardship, Alexis Cheang.Alexis shares insights on how TCorp has integrated ESG factors into their investment strategies, detailing their efforts in active ownership and the challenges faced in compiling carbon emissions data. The discussion covers TCorp's approach to managing a substantial $118 billion portfolio, highlighting key

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13:21

Enhancing emission transparency: PathZero's...

The Greener Way ·

2025/07/28

In this episode of The Greener Way podcast, Financial Standard's Eliza Bavin talks with Carl Prins, Co-founder and CEO of PathZero, about the challenges superannuation funds face in managing climate-related financial risks when it comes to private equity.They discuss the need for precise emissions data, regulatory standards, and the unique approach PathZero takes to enhance data accuracy through collaboration among fund managers, asset owners, and operating entities. Learn how PathZero's secure

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16:07

Navigating climate transition: Directors' duties and...

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2025/07/21

In this episode of 'The Greener Way,' host Michelle Baltazar discusses the critical role of company directors in climate transition planning with Christian Gergis, head of policy at the Australian Institute of Company Directors (AICD).The discussion covers the evolution of climate issues in boardrooms, the importance of robust transition plans, combating greenwashing, and the significance of directors' best interest duties.The episode highlights the need for comprehensive internal support and

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15:49

The AI governance risk keeping executives up at...

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2025/07/14

In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the governance risks posed by AI with Elfreda Jonker from Alphinity Investment Management.They explore the impact of AI on cybersecurity and data privacy, as highlighted in Alphinity's latest sustainability report. The conversation covers the importance of a Responsible AI framework, how companies including Netflix and Wesfarmers address these risks, and the need for better investor disclosures by fund managers on how they tackle

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21:12

Investing in a warmer world

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2025/07/07

Join host Michelle Baltazar as she speaks with Dr. Erin Kuo-Sutherland, chief sustainability officer at Yarra Capital Management.In this episode, they discuss the implications of surpassing the 1.5°C global warming threshold, the impact on various sectors, and the new climate reality.They discuss Yarra’s strategic approach to ESG integration, physical risk assessments, and the promising opportunities in climate resilience and adaptation.02:10 Yarra's approach to sustainability02:44 The new climate

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12:18

Mandatory Climate Disclosure: Closing Loopholes for...

The Greener Way ·

2025/06/30

In this episode of 'The Greener Way,' host Michelle Baltazar discusses the new accounting standards for Scope 3 emissions with Alison George, Chief Impact and Ethics Officer at Australian Ethical Investments. They discuss why it's crucial for investment banks and insurers to be included in these disclosures, the risks involved in granting them exemptions, and the impact on transparency and investor confidence. Submission link:

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25:50

Exploring Emerging Markets & Sustainable Investments...

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2025/06/23

Join host Michelle Baltazar as she chats with Pablo Berrutti, senior portfolio specialist at Stewart Investors, about emerging market investment opportunities and their main growth drivers. Berrutti also explains why Samsung, Wallmex and Bank of the Philippine Islands are featured in their portfolios and why mid-cap US companies offer good value for investors.00:57 Guest introduction: Pablo Berrutti01:26 Stewart Investors: Under the bonnet03:50 Investment strategies and criteria06:47 What's driving

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17:56

How direct indexing could supercharge ESG

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2025/06/16

While still at a very nascent stage in Australia, direct indexing holds great potential – particularly for ESG and responsible investors.Investing in line with your values is a very idiosyncratic desire as what’s important to one investor can differ greatly for another. Being able to build a low-cost, custom portfolio that removes all the ESG exposures an investor doesn’t want while still tracking a selected benchmark could prove a game-changer in more ways than one.Briefcase founder and chief

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14:49

Measuring nature assets in portfolios

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2025/06/09

In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the transition to nature-positive investment portfolios with Lucian Peppelenbos, climate and biodiversity strategist at Robeco.Lucian shares his insights on the importance of incorporating environmental impacts into investment strategies, using the Task Force for Nature-related Financial Disclosures (TNFD) guidance, and the launch of Robeco's biodiversity traffic light system.Together they discuss how investors can measure and

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17:28

From silos to synergy

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2025/06/02

The challenges facing sustainable investors are always evolving, and approaches to responsible investment must evolve as well.Over the years, much of the industry has adopted a siloed approach to E, S and G issues, but a new report from First Sentier Investors explores how an integrative approach to responsible investment can produce more lucrative opportunities for investors.First Sentier Investors’ global head of responsible investment Kate Turner joins The Greener Way to discuss how accounting

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21:18

Carbon securities the next game-changer

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2025/05/26

In this episode of 'The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar interviews Paul Clements-Hunt, founder and CEO of the Blended Capital Group, about the evolution and future of Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) investing. They explore the origin of ESG, emphasising its role in changing the culture of asset owners, particularly in Australia. He discusses the transition from ethical investments to responsible and sustainable investments, stressing the need for authenticity in addressing systemic

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