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Drinks After Work with Shannon and Deb

Ever wonder what your colleagues really talk about when they"re off the clock? Welcome to Drinks After Work, where Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris pull up a stool for the kind of straight talk you’ll only hear after hours. Each episode is a casual deep dive into the real world of corporate life. From dissecting the latest trends to laughing at the absurdities of the modern workplace, they"re pulling back the curtain on the side of work you don"t talk about in the office. Pull up a chair, grab your

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23:10

Phony Books Deal and Corporate Squid Games

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2026/02/11

Pop the tab on something cold and settle in — it's time for another round of Drinks After Work!This time, we're talking all about: Why forced team building exercises make everyone scatter like roaches The difference between building culture and forcing "fun" Stay interviews vs. exit interviews (and why timing matters) When the CEO thinks they're everyone's buddy (spoiler: they're not) How to survive mandatory team building when you'd rather be anywhere else In this episode, Shannon and Deborah

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48:45

Badges and Betrayals

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2026/01/28

Pop the tab on something cold and settle in — it's time for another round of Drinks After Work!This time, we're talking all about: Coffee Badging: The office protest you didn't know had a name Revenge Quitting vs. Quiet Quitting: When employees fight back (loudly or silently) Rage Applying: Blanketing the internet with your resume out of pure frustration Quiet Firing: When your company makes you so miserable you quit on your own Why all of these "trends" are really just symptoms of broken

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42:29

Performance Reviews: The Corporate Hunger Games

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2026/01/16

Pop the tab on something cold and settle in — it's time for another round of Drinks After Work!This time, we're talking all about: Why performance reviews feel like going to the principal's office How the rating system is rigged (spoiler: you're never getting that 5/5) The disconnect between widget-based work and knowledge-based work Why managers wait until the last minute and copy-paste from last year What to do instead if you want actual feedback that matters In this episode, Shannon and

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28:43

Emotional Support Animals and Smart @$$ Goals

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2026/01/12

Pop the tab on something cold and settle in — it's time for another round of Drinks After Work, 2026 Edition!This time, we're talking all about: Why New Year's resolutions set us up for failure (and what to do instead) How SMART goals aren't actually that smart for personal growth The perfectionism trap that makes goal-setting feel like punishment Why reflection beats resolution every time Practical alternatives that actually work (hello, ALIGN goals) In this episode, Shannon and Deborah kick

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33:54

Human Resources or Human Roadblocks?

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2025/11/26

Drinks After Work with Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris: Where’s the Human in HR?Pop the tab on something cold and settle in — it’s time for another round of Drinks After Work! This episode goes straight into the tension between people and policy, asking: when did human resources stop being about the humans? This time, we’re talking about: What happens when HR becomes more about protecting the company than the people Why surveys and “great place to work” badges aren’t always what they

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54:22

Recruiting by Copy-Paste: What Could Go Wrong?

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2025/10/30

Drinks After Work with Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris: The Broken State of RecruitingGrab a glass, fill it up, and settle in — it’s time for another round of Drinks After Work! This time, we’re talking all about: How the recruiting process got so broken Why AI might actually be able to fix what’s wrong The hidden frustrations of cover letters, ATS filters, and job scams Real talk about bias, fairness, and the exhausting hunt for “culture fit” In this episode, Shannon and Deborah break down

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37:17

The Cognitive Bias Costume Party

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2025/10/09

Pull up a chair and pour yourself something good — it’s time for another round of Drinks After Work! This time, we’re talking all about:How cognitive biases sneak into the way we design learning Why “expert syndrome” (aka Dunning-Kruger) can ruin credibility The hidden effects of the halo, horn, and affinity biases on planning and hiring False consensus and confirmation bias — and what they mean for team decision-making In this episode, Shannon and Deborah mix laughs with real talk as they

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42:58

Mind Readers and Murder Mysteries

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2025/10/02

Grab your favorite frosty adult beverage, hit that subscribe button, and join Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris for another round of Drinks After Work! This episode is all about the real difference between engaging and compelling learning—why we confuse the two, and what it takes to actually hold attention beyond the first click.This time, we’re asking: Are we designing learning that hooks people, or just entertains them? What’s the role of curiosity and tension in getting learners to care? Why do

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39:29

Tax Season Survivors and Stakeholder Tamers

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2025/09/24

Pop the tab on something cold and settle in — it’s time for another round of L&D Happy Hour! This time, we’re talking all about:Why building relationships with stakeholders is harder than it sounds How shifting your language changes how you’re perceived The role of trust, curiosity, and active listening in business partnerships Baby steps for new and seasoned L&D pros to strengthen influence In this episode, Shannon and Deborah swap stories and strategies for making stakeholder

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43:10

The Party Schedules a Play Date at the Office

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2025/09/04

Kick off your shoes and leave the workday at the door — it’s time for another round of L&D Happy Hour! So what are we up to this time? Well, we’re talking all about:Why playfulness isn’t just for kids How rest fuels creativity (and why a nap isn’t the only answer) Breaking out of “all work, no play” culture The small shifts that make big creative breakthroughs possible From Lego Serious Play to silent brainstorming and spaces designed to spark fresh thinking, Shannon and Deborah explore how a

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40:00

Networking

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2025/08/10

L&D Happy Hour with Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris: The Real Deal on NetworkingDust off your mason jars and bar spoons, make sure you've smacked that subscribe button, and join Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris for another round of Learning Rebels Happy Hour! So what are we up to this time? Well, we’re talking all about: Why networking isn't just business cards and elevator pitches What to actually do after you make a connection How social media and email are part of your networking

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01:03:33

Cloudy with a Chance of Cheez-Its

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2025/08/03

L&D Happy Hour with Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris: Productivity, Control, and the Future of WorkBreak out your shakers and bar spoons, double check that subscribe button, and join Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris for another round of Learning Rebels Happy Hour! This episode explores productivity, the illusion of job security, and why CEOs are losing sleep at night. This time, we’re talking all about: Why do some organizations still struggle with relinquishing control in learning &

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41:03

Owning Your Professional Development

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2025/02/07

L&D Happy Hour with Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris: The Truth About Professional DevelopmentGrab your favorite frosty adult beverage, hit that subscribe button, and join Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris for another round of L&D Happy Hour! This episode dives into the real talk behind professional development—why it matters, why people aren’t taking advantage of it, and what we can do about it. Today, we’re asking the big questions: Why do companies claim they can’t find the right

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52:25

Personality Tests

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2025/01/23

L&D Happy Hour with Shannon Tipton and Brent Schlenker: Personality Tests—Insights and Hot Takes!Grab your favorite frosty adult beverage, hit that subscribe button, and join Shannon Tipton and Brent Schlenker for another episode of the L&D Happy Hour. This time, it’s all about personality assessments—the good, the bad, and the downright problematic. Today, we’re diving headfirst into the world of personality assessments, uncovering their role in recruiting, corporate culture, and

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49:09

Finding Your Vibe and Newbies from Mars

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2024/08/16

L&D needs more energy, and so do our onboarding processes!Listen in as Shannon Tipton and Deborah Harris, two L&D veterans, spill the tea (and maybe a little whiskey) on all things learning and development. No fluff, just real talk. Today Deb and I are talking about the shocking state of onboarding and why organizations are so damn complacent about it. So grab your beverage of choice and get ready to dive deep into the world of L&D with us! Explore why the L&D industry seems

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41:02

Pay-to-Play and Remote Work Ecosystem

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2024/07/30

Happy Hour with Shannon Tipton and Brent Schlenker:Join Shannon Tipton and Brent Schlenker for a blend of business smarts and L&D war stories. Don’t miss our happy hour recommendations at the end of these notes! Today, we're dissecting what’s up with pay-to-play conferences and equity in remote work. When it comes to remote work, there are many organizations taking a hard stance - return to office or else. Shannon and Brent are debating today: What are an organization's obligations to

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50:08

Leadership Development Failure & What? Another Tool?

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2024/03/06

Happy Hour with Shannon Tipton and Brent Schlenker:(00:00) Shifting Landscape of LinkedIn Marketing (16:06) Business Acumen in L&D Professionals (25:33) Business Acumen in L&D (37:06) Building Business Acumen Skill Join Shannon Tipton and Brent Schlenker for a blend of LinkedIn hacks, business smarts, and L&D war stories. Don’t miss our happy hour recommendations at the end of these notes! Today we're dissecting why Leadership Development Programs fail. What we do know is that

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46:27

Business Acumen and Spammy Spam

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2024/02/15

L&D Happy Hour with Shannon Tipton and Brent Schlenker: Business Acumen and Spammy Spam!Don't forget to hit the subscribe button and join Shannon Tipton and Brent Schlenker for a blend of LinkedIn hacks, business smarts, and L&D war stories. Don’t miss our happy hour recommendations at the end of these notes! (00:00) Shifting Landscape of LinkedIn Marketing (16:06) Business Acumen in L&D Professionals (25:33) Business Acumen in L&D (37:06) Building Business Acumen Skill Today,

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52:02

Skills Agenda and Just Another Tuesday

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2024/01/25

Grab your favorite frosty adult beverage, hit the subscribe button, and take a ride with Shannon Tipton and Brent Schlenker as they discuss the skills agenda - why is there even a "skills agenda," and why are yearly recaps a remix of lists from previous years and not particularly helpful. Sharing their opinions on the importance of systems, AI, and Curation are guests: JD Dillon, Myra Roldan, and Mike Taylor. Plus, parting words as a tribute to Jay Jimenez and Bob Pike. Full Transcript:

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