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The Legalpreneurs Sandbox

Centre for Legal Innovation

The legal ecosystem is transforming but to what, for whom, where, why and how? Join us to learn about the next best practices and how legaltech is impacting your legal business. Learn from the people who are "walking the talk." Hear what they are doing and what has driven them to do things differently for their clients, their people, their organisations and themselves and, how they measure and learn from success and failure. We"re going to get candid, super practical and yes, we"re going to get

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Episode 218: A Conversation About Rewriting Tomorrow:...

The Legalpreneurs Sandbox ·

2025/08/19

This powerful closing plenary fireside chat with Terri Mottershead, Director, Digital Enablement, Ashurst Advance and Sue Keay, Director, UNSW AI Institute , Secretary and Board Member Women in Robotics and Chair of the Board of Directors, Robotics Australia Group discussed how women are making unique contributions to AI leadership while charting a path forward. The session delved into Sue’s work and experience, and it is a testament to women's leadership, collaborative, ethical, and human-centered

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Episode 217: Future-Proofing Talent – Building AI...

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2025/08/19

This forward-looking episode featured women who have successfully led workforce transformation initiatives, showcasing approaches to skilling, reskilling, upskilling, recruiting, and retaining AI talent. Ann-Maree David, Executive Director, College of Law Queensland, Fiona Anson, Director of Enterprise Learning Strategy, University of Technology Sydney, Jan Christie, Director, Capability + Organisational Development, Gilbert + Tobin and Jemma Hirst, Head of IT Training, Grant Thornton explored how

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Episode 216: Balancing Power with Responsibility –...

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2025/08/19

In this episode, women leaders in AI ethics, governance, and compliance Gabrielle Lyons, Deputy General Counsel, Gilbert + Tobin, Annie Haggar, Partner, Head of Cybersecurity, Australia, Norton Rose Fulbright, Dr Bernadette Hyland-Wood, Research Fellow, Centre for Data Science, Queensland University of Technology and Ilona Meyer, General Counsel & Company Secretary, Nuix shared frameworks for responsible AI deployment that protect both organisations and clients. The panel showcased women's

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54:59

Episode 215: From Vision to Value – Translating AI...

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2025/08/19

This implementation-focused episode moved beyond cultural readiness to explore the tactical execution of AI projects. The panel of women implementation and operations leaders Katrina Gowans, Legal Ops professional, Co-Chair CLOC Australia and CLI Advisory Board member, Helen Henderson, Director and Founder, Board Impact, Deborah Hook, Director, Legal Operations, University of Sydney, Robyna May, Chief Information Officer, McInnes Wilson Lawyers and Caryn Sandler, Partner and Chief Knowledge &

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48:59

Episode 214: Decision Architecture – Strategic...

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2025/08/19

In this episode, female technology leaders Kelly Addison, Director, Women in Technology, Kate Clark, CEO, eDiscovery Collab, Anna Golovsky, Executive Manager, Legal & Company Secretariat, IAG and Jaysee Sunapho, Data Architect, Magentus broke down complex AI purchasing and integration decisions through case studies highlighting both successes and instructive failures. This episode emphasised women's collaborative approach to vendor assessment and how diverse perspectives lead to more holistic

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Episode 213: Mindsets Matter – Breaking Barriers to...

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2025/08/19

This foundation-setting episode focussed specifically on overcoming psychological and organisational resistance to AI, female leaders Kim Trajer, Chief Operating Officer at McCullough Robertson and CLI Advisory Board member, Orla Glynn, Data & AI Specialist, Liza Greenwood, Head of Innovation Services, Allens and Professor Selena Bartlett, Faculty of Health (Neuroscience and Neuroplasticity), School of Clinical Science, Queensland University of Technology shared strategies for addressing fear of

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Episode 212: ACE in Action – Women Shaping the Future...

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2025/08/19

In this episode, Cat Moon, Professor of the Practice and Founding Co-Director of VAILL, the Vanderbilt AI + Law Lab, Vanderbilt University Law School opened the Women + AI APAC Summit 2025 with a powerful invitation to step into our collective potential to shape the future of AI through intentional action, meaningful connection, and bold leadership. Grounded in the core mission of Women+AI—Action, Community-building, and Empowerment—this keynote explored what it means to lead with clarity and

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Episode 211: Future 50 Series - GenAI and Legal Ops -...

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2025/05/29

In many respects, generative AI has impacted few roles as directly as legal operations. These professionals sit at the epicentre of tech experimentation, deployment, adoption, evaluation and change. As the tech has evolved, so too has their role to right now, being part tech interpreter, teacher, multidisciplinary relationship builder, enterprise-wide and legal function collaborator, and connector. That’s been layered into what they have always done, practical problem solving to ensure the legal

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Episode 210: Future 50 Series – Small Words, Big...

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2025/05/29

Prompt engineering has captured our interest, been at the core of our frustration and continues to find its way into our new way of working in the post ChatGPT era. But like the tech it is so integrally tied to, generative AI, knowing you need to be good at prompting is not the same as being good at it – it requires context, application, refinement and education at a p[ace, scale and continuous engagement like we have never seen before. The Centre for Legal innovation launched its Distinguished

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Episode 209: Legal GenAI Conversations Series: The...

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2025/05/07

On 7 May 2025, in the fourth podcast in CLI’s Legal GenAI Conversations Series Terri Mottershead, Executive Director of the Centre for Legal Innovation was joined by three amazing guests to discuss The Lawyerless Law Firm – Myth or Reality in 2030? Miriam Rihani, Head of Transformation and Legal Operations (OGC), PwC Australia Laura Vickers, Founding Director, Nest Legal Dominic Woolrych, CEO and Co-Founder, Lawpath Topics covered in this session included: Whether or not we are close –

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01:07:52

Episode 208: Legal GenAI Conversations Series – Will...

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2025/04/17

There’s little more fundamental to every business than revenue. In law firms, for a while now, that’s been measured by the billable hour. In most law firms today, we still wrap up hours billed in the same parcel as expertise, performance, and value. That’s a BIG problem and it’s getting bigger as AI and particularly generative AI is completing tasks faster, better, and cheaper AND starting to advance into complex problem solving too! So, what does that mean for law firms? Can we/should we all

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Episode 207: Legal GenAI Conversations Series – Legal...

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2025/03/20

Every aspect of legal practice is transforming before our eyes with AI as the catalyst and the enabler. It’s a challenging time for law firm leaders - it’s definitely not a role for the faint hearted. On 18 March 2025, in the second podcast in CLI’s Legal GenAI Conversations Series Terri Mottershead, Executive Director of the Centre for Legal Innovation was joined by three law firm leaders from Australia and New Zealand to discuss this and much more in Legal leaders in the AI era – Are we there

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Episode 206: Future 50 Series – The Law Profs GenAI...

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2025/03/19

Generative AI has created a critical role for educators. Everyone is learning something new, and educators know how to make that meaningful and stick. Whether the tech is forcing us to challenge traditional mindsets, understand a new context for our work, experiment with new ways to work, or embrace different ways to collaborate with different people so we find the right solutions to new issues, educators have a pivotal role to play. In this session, we chatted with three professors in the US who

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Episode 205: Legal GenAI Conversations Series – The...

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2025/02/24

This podcast was recorded on 20 February 2025, as the inaugural session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Conversations Series. In this session, Terri Mottershead, Executive Director of the Centre for Legal Innovation discussed The Lawyer Mindset with global superstar former lawyer, psychologist and legal industry consultant Dr. Larry Richard, Founder and Principal Consultant at LawyerBrain LLC. Topics covered in this session included: Defining and understanding how the lawyer mindset is different How the

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Episode 204: Welcome to Lex ExploreAI Series – What...

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2025/02/10

This podcast was recorded on 5 February 2025, as the inaugural session in CLI’s Lex ExploreAI Series. In this session host Courtney Blackman, Head of Partnerships and Program Director of the LawTech Hub & AI Clinical Placements at Lander & Rogers joined Terri Mottershead, Executive Director of the Centre for Legal Innovation to discuss: The state of legal AI The work being done in AI at Lander & Rogers What you can expect from this series in 2025 You’ll find details about the other sessions in

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Episode 203: Future 50 Series – Legal Innovation and...

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2024/12/16

We’re back for our sixth year and what a year it has been for legaltech, AI and innovation! If 2023 was the year to figure out what generative AI was all about, then 2024 was most definitely the year for pilots, experimentation, and strategies for data and AI. Well, that was how it went for some, but not everyone… In this, our annual year in review, we discussed what happened and where the dust settled in 2024 with Caryn Sandler, Partner and Chief Knowledge & Innovation Officer at Gilbert +

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Episode 202: Future 50 Series - Breaking New Ground...

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2024/11/26

In this session, we spoke with Mark Williams, a Founding Co-Director of the Vanderbilt AI Law Lab (VAILL) and a Professor of the Practice of Law at the AIGP. Mark has come to AI via journalism, law, sometime in the political world and knowledge management. In many respects, his work now draws on that rich professional and personal life experience. Today, Mark is deeply immersed in working with and educating future generations of lawyers through the AI Law Lab. The Lab is a hands-on,

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Episode 201: Legal GenAI Around the World: Africa +...

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2024/07/23

This podcast was recorded on 22 July 2024 as the fifth session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from Africa and the Middle East: Peter Hall, Chief Operating Officer, Cognia Law Leah Molatseli, Founder, Contract Alchemists Katie Whang, Legal Counsel, Johnson & Johnson Topics covered included: An overview of legal AI in Africa and the

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Episode 200: Future 50 Series – Innovator in...

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2024/07/11

In this session, we spoke with Colin Lachance, the Innovator in Residence at the Ontario Bar Association (OBA) and the Principal of law firm coaching and consulting business, PGYA Consulting. Colin has spent most of his career in the legal industry. He’s worked in publishing, consulting, and legaltech development just to name a few. In all that he has done, and it’s a lot, there’s been a consistent theme – he’s comfortable with challenging the status quo and doing things differently. He’s been named

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Episode 199: Legal GenAI Around the World: Europe + UK

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2024/07/03

This podcast was recorded on 18 June 2024 as the fourth session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with four amazing panellists from Europe and the UK: Giulio Coraggio, Partner – Location Head of Italian Intellectual Property and Technology Department, DLA Piper Uwais Iqbal, Founder, simplexico Tanja Podinic, Global Legal Gen AI Lead, PwC Tara Waters, Partner & Chief

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