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Break the Business

Break the Business Podcast

A show for indie creators and the people who love and support them. Break the Business Podcast is a fun and informative discussion of entertainment law (for non-lawyers), independent artists, and popular culture. Break the Business is recorded live on Thursdays at 9pm Eastern at twitch.tv/breakthebusiness. Catch the show on Mondays at 6pm on SiriusXM Channel 145 SLAM Radio and on all major podcast platforms! If you"d like to be a guest or have any questions, please send us an email at

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1:02:41

BTB Ep 495: Open AI’s Copyright Opt Outs; we...

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2025/10/05

TOPICS: Open AI is requiring that copyright holders opt out of having their works used in the latest version of their Sora video generator; we interview recording artist, musician, comedian, and writer Victor Jones. You can find out more about our guest’swork by visiting www.victorjonesisaconstruct.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the

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1:01:17

BTB Ep 494: Why are people listening less to the ad -...

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2025/09/28

TOPICS: Ryan is obsessed with indie artist Victor Jones; people are listening less to ad-supported music streaming services— we talk about why and what impact it has on indie artists; should reality show contestants be classified as employees?; we interview Geoff Cubitt, the North American CEO of Strm Music, an AI-powered music distribution and artist services platform. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting www.strmmusic.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast

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58:28

BTB Ep 493: TikTok is not a great platform for music...

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2025/09/21

TOPICS: Ryan and Katie Zaccardi talk about overcoming your “fear of being perceived” as an indie creator; a new report from MIDiA casts doubt on TikTok’s effectiveness as a music discovery platform; our guest this week is Neil Sheehan, CEO of indie-focused music streaming platform Vocana. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visitingvocana.co.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the

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1:06:10

BTB Ep 492: Can digital creators write off their tips...

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2025/09/14

TOPICS: Everyone in the media seems to think that digital creators will be able to write offtheir tips on their income taxes, but Ryan is skeptical; ElisaRockDoc Career Update; we interview Chordal CEO Grayson Sanders about advances in sync licensing technology and what indie creators can do to create more sync opportunities for themselves. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting www.chordal.comRate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher,

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57:01

BTB Ep 491: Living Wage for Musicians Act is...

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2025/09/07

TOPICS: Ryan and Producer Lauren talk about the fast-approaching Episode 500; Rep.Rashida Tlaib reintroduces the Living Wage for Musicians Act; we interview music merchandiser Seamus Meniane of merch services company Armada. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting poweredbyarmada.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the Business

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1:05:10

BTB Ep 490: Lessons musicians have learned; we...

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2025/08/31

TOPICS: Ryan rants even more about the Muppets on Broadway; Ryan and Zak talk about a Reddit post about lessons musicians have learned that they wish they had learned when they were younger; we interview musician and social entrepreneur Tiff Randol. Tiff is the Mamas in Music, a global nonprofit that supports mothers and caregivers in the music industry. You can find out more about our guests’ work by visiting mamasinmusic.org, iameveami.com, and tiffrandol.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the

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1:02:07

BTB Ep 489: Ryan crashes out over The Muppets; we...

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2025/08/24

TOPICS: We talk about the Taylor Swift episode of the New Heights Kelce Brothers Podcast; Ryan is upset that the Muppets Broadway show won’t have any Muppet singing or dancing; we interview Lanz Pierce, the recording artist, entrepreneur, and the founder of the Luminary Creative Agency. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting www.luminarycreativeagency.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair

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1:03:38

BTB Ep 488: Why is private equity interested in the...

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2025/08/10

TOPICS: Ryan is back from China, but he apparently left his hair there; we answer a listener question about band agreements; M&A activity is spiking in the creator economy—what does that mean for creators?; our guest this week is electro pop artist and entrepreneur Bill“Downupright” Boulden. Bill’s new album “Radical Honesty” is available now. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting downupright.bsky.social.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes,

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58:54

BTB Ep 487: Debby Scheer and Danny Garcia join Zak

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2025/08/03

Ryan’s still away, Zak is hosting; in the first segment, Zak chats with Debbie Scheer aboutWorking as a Stand up comedian, posting other people’s jokes. Guest: CEO and Co-Founder of SongTools, Danny Garcia.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the Business on Facebook and tell a friend about the show. Visit www.ryankairalla.com to find out more about

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56:20

BTB EP 486: Ryan is still away; Lyric Writing; The...

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2025/07/27

Even though Ryan is still out, the show must go on! We discuss lyric writing and the Rap Act in addition to having Zoe Espitia, founder of Zojak World Wide, on with us.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the Business on Facebook and tell a friend about the show. Visit www.ryankairalla.com to find out more about Ryan's entertainment, education, and

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56:42

BTB Ep 485: Video games, cover music; National Chair...

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2025/07/20

TOPICS: Ryan is out of town, and Zak and ElisaRockDoc are holding down the fort. We discuss the future of video games, 5 easy hacks to make your cover song stand out, and in the second segment, we are joined by guest Frank Handy, National Chair of AIMP.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like Break the Business on Facebook and tell a friend about the show

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1:01:47

BTB Ep 484: The fake AI band has a fake manager;...

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2025/07/13

TOPICS: Ryan and Zak Sloan talk about the “Velvet Sundown” fake AI band and how Spotify is allowing them to proliferate; the HITS Act has passed as part of the latest budget bill; our guest this week is acclaimed music publicist and Cyber PR founder Ariel Hyatt. Ariel’s latest book, “From Buzz to Bond: How to Stop Chasing Hype and Build a Lasting Music Career,” is available now. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visitingcyberprmusic.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business

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1:01:11

BTB Ep 483: AI - generated artists on Spotify; indie...

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2025/07/06

TOPICS: Ryan shares a story about whether AI will replace lawyers; Ryan and guest co-host Jasmine Ortiz talk about the latest crop of allegedly AI-generated artists popping up on streaming platforms; Ryan answers a listener's question about registering trademarks; our guests this week are indie folk artists aibai & vinny. Their self-titled EP is available now, and you can follow our guests on TikTok @aibaiandvinny.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud,

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1:01:55

BTB Ep 482: Google is using YouTube videos to train...

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2025/06/29

TOPICS: CNBC is reporting that Google is using YouTubers’ content to train its Veo video platform; Katie Zaccardi’s engagement hacks; we interview Jeremy Sirota, CEO of indie music licensing network Merlin. You can find out more about the Merlin Connect platform and about our guests’ work by visiting merlinnetwork.org.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business Podcast @thebtbpodcast. Like

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1:00:06

BTB Ep 481: Ryan and Elisa talk creator mental...

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2025/06/22

TOPICS: ElisaRockDoc co-hosts this week and discusses the “mental health gap” that creators are dealing with; Ryan answers a listener's question about copyright ownership of a track they recorded with a producer; ElisaRockDoc career update; our guest this week is musician Jeff Michaels. Find out more about our guest’s work by visitingwww.jeffmichaelsband.comRate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break

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1:03:05

BTB Ep 480: How AI will impact artists; radio host...

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2025/06/15

TOPICS: Gideon King and Ryan talk about how AI is disrupting the entertainment industry and the impacts that it will have on creative professionals; the Congressional Creators Caucus has been launched, but is it positioned to actually help creators? Our guest this week is artist, radio host, and entrepreneur Jasmine Ortiz. Check out The Jasmine Ortiz Show on iHeart Radio and follow our guest on Instagram @iamjasmineortiz.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud,

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57:01

BTB Ep 479: Taylor Swift bought back her masters;...

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2025/06/08

TOPICS: Ryan is podcasting from the APME Conference in Memphis; artists are pretending that their videos are AI-generated; Taylor Swift bought her original master recordings back and Ryan and Zak Sloan discuss; our guest this week is Kate Sheeran, the Dean of the Eastman School of Music at the University of Rochester. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting esm.rochester.eduRate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play

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1:01:20

BTB Ep 478: Innovative ways to promote your music;...

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2025/06/01

TOPICS: Ryan and Katie Zaccardi talk about innovative ways that artists can promote their music; Ryan answers a listener's question, registering copyrights in CD releases; we interview Cat Henry of Live Music Society about the Society’s “One Night Live” touring project. You can find out more about our guest’s work by visiting www.livemusicsociety.org.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the

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1:02:10

BTB Ep 477: Lana Love talks about “The Rehearsal”; we...

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2025/05/25

TOPICS: We interview artist Lana Love about her experience on the Nathan Fielder HBO program “The Rehearsal”; we interview indie artist Talia Keys about her latest album being released as part of the “Buy Before Your Stream” initiative. Check out Lana’s latest single, “Antidote,” and find out more about Talia’s work by visiting www.taliakeys.com.Rate/review/subscribe to the Break the Business Podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, and Google Play. Follow Ryan @ryankair and the Break the Business

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1:03:15

BTB Ep 476: “The Rehearsal” created a fake singing...

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2025/05/18

TOPICS: Break the Business guest Lana Love was tricked into competing in a fake reality singingcompetition on Nathan Fielder’s “The Rehearsal” program; the Copyright Office issued a report onwhether using copyright works to train AI platforms is considered fair use; we interview Doug Martin(Doug Martin Quartet) and Chris SD (Sync Songwriter), two music professionals who were valuedcontributors to the soundtrack of Best Picture Oscar winner Anora. Visit wwwsyncsongwriter.comRate/review/subscribe to

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