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Makin Mighty Challenger Growth Podcast: Retail, sales and commercial thinking for underdog food and drink brands.

Simon Greenwood-Haigh

Makin Mighty Challenger Growth Podcast is for underdog brands trying to win customers, grow sales and stop shouting into an empty room.Hosted by Simon Greenwood-Haigh, founder of Makin Mighty, it is a practical look at how selling actually works in food and drink.Retail buyers. Distributors. Negotiation. Pricing. Rate of sale. Commercial strategy. Getting listed, staying listed and knowing what to do when growth stalls.Expect straight conversations with founders, buyers and operators, alongside

business management

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30:49

How to stay on shelf once you've won the listing |...

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2026/10/06

Send us Fan Mail Getting on shelf is hard. Staying there is harder, and it is the bit nobody talks about. Stu McDonald started ManiLife after meeting the Argentinian family who have grown his peanuts since day one. A decade on it is one of the most respected brands in its category, made in its own facility because it genuinely cannot be made in a normal peanut butter factory. Stu is also unusually straight about the fact that ManiLife was stuck for the first eight years. In this conversatio...

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1:29

Series 2 starts 6 October: what's changed and what's...

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2026/09/29

Send us Fan Mail Series 2 starts on Tuesday 6 October. The podcast has a new name. The Challenger Sessions has gone, partly because it was trying a bit too hard for a man sat in a small office in St Helens, and partly because it told you nothing about what the show is actually for. The first series finished five months ago. Since then Simon has been working with brands, sitting in buyer meetings, building sales plans, negotiating and getting things wrong, which is where most of the material...

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24:59

Buyer Truth: What Retailers Want from Challenger...

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2026/04/07

Send us Fan Mail What do retailers actually want from challenger brands — and what gets you ignored instantly? In this episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh speaks with Chris Otto, who spent nearly 20 years at Co-op in buying roles and leading buying teams across frozen, impulse and grocery. We get into: what “challenger” really means from a retailer perspective why challenger brands matter to retailers (innovation, energy, relevance, younger...

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32:30

AI for Sales Teams Without Sounding Like a Bot |...

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2026/03/31

Send us Fan Mail AI is everywhere in sales right now — and most of what people are doing either turns into spam, or it’s so complicated nobody uses it. In this episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh speaks with Craig — founder of Cheesies and a commercial operator/consultant turned AI practitioner — about how challenger brands can use AI to sell more without losing their human edge. We cover: why sales is one of the safer career paths in an AI world (and...

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29:19

How Superfoodio Drive Rate of Sale Once They’re...

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2026/03/24

Send us Fan Mail Getting listed is exciting. Staying listed is the hard bit. In this episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh speaks with Ja and Jag, founders of Superfoodio, about what really drives rate of sale once you’re on shelf. They share practical, founder-level tactics on: why availability is the first battle (and how brands get caught out)early retail mistakes you only learn the hard way (including a barcode issue that nearly got them pulled)what they ...

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25:47

How to Turn a 200-Year-Old Brand into a Challenger |...

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2026/03/17

Send us Fan Mail How do you make a 200-year-old heritage brand behave like a modern challenger — without losing what made it famous? In this episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh speaks with Josh Daly, who helped take Grey Poupon from being “in the wilderness” to behaving like a brand with a clear point of view. We get into: why Grey Poupon got delisted (and why that was actually useful context)how to spot duplication and pull away from the incumbentwhat was ...

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23:54

What “Good Enough” Actually Means for Early Brands |...

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2026/03/10

Send a text Early-stage founders often try to rush to “perfect” — perfect branding, perfect plans, perfect decks — before they’ve sold a single unit. In this co-hosted episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh and Scott Cramner unpack what “good enough” really means for challenger brands, and why perfection is often just procrastination dressed up as strategy. We cover: why selling early beats endless planningwhere you can compromise (and where you absolutely can...

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13:41

Looking Premium vs Being Premium | Simon & Scott

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2026/03/03

Send a text Loads of challenger brands describe themselves as “premium”. But premium isn’t a word you write in a strategy doc — it’s something you deliver, end to end. In this co-hosted episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh and Scott Cramner break down the difference between looking premium and being premium — and why getting this wrong is one of the fastest ways to lose trust (and repeat purchase). We cover: why premium needs to show up in the whole customer...

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13:54

Why Buyers Don't Buy The Story You're Telling | Simon...

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2026/02/24

Send a text Founders love their origin story. Buyers don’t buy it. In this co-hosted episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh and Scott Cramner unpack why brand storytelling so often falls flat in retail and commercial conversations. We talk about: why relevance beats romance when you’re trying to sellwhy your brand is the sidekick, not the herowhen storytelling does work (and what it needs to do)examples where story builds credibility and trust (and where it’s ...

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21:32

Why Your Content Isn’t Working (It’s Not the...

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2026/02/17

Send a text A lot of founders blame the algorithm when their content doesn’t land. It’s a convenient scapegoat. In this co-hosted episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh and Scott Cramner unpack what’s really going on: most challenger brands don’t have an algorithm problem — they’ve got a messaging problem. We get into: why “going viral” is not a strategyhow consistency beats random spikeswhy knowing exactly who you’re talking to changes everythingwhat great br...

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23:43

The Retail Reality: Getting Listed and Staying Listed...

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2026/02/10

Send a text Getting listed is not the win...it’s permission to start proving yourself. In this episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh is joined by Jasmine Wheelhouse (CEO/“Pea-EO” of Taking the Pea) to talk honestly about the retail reality for challenger brands: getting a buyer’s attention, winning the pitch, and what it takes to stay listed once you’re on shelf. We cover: what “retail ready” really looks like in practicebuyer ghosting and the resilience requ...

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26:04

Design Won’t Save Your Brand | The Basics Challenger...

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2026/02/03

Send us a text Design matters. But design cannot rescue a product or business that does not deliver. In this co-hosted episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh and Scott Cramner get into the uncomfortable truth founders need to hear: if you are using design to hide bigger problems, the market will find you out fast. We talk about: why great branding cannot compensate for weak product experience (including Simon’s honest take on Ugly Drinks)how “cool” design can ...

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16:44

Why Most Challenger Brands Don’t Deserve Their...

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2026/01/27

Send us a text A lot of early-stage brands feel world-class before they’ve actually proven anything. In this co-hosted episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh and Scott dig into a pattern we keep seeing: confidence that shows up before competence...and how it quietly kills momentum. We talk about where overconfidence shows up first (hint: it’s usually not where founders think), why design polish can become a mask for weak fundamentals, and what “earned confiden...

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33:40

How Challenger Brands Find a Voice That Sells | Kevin...

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2026/01/21

Send us a text Most food and drink brands say they’ve got a tone of voice but walk down any supermarket aisle and you’d struggle to tell them apart. In this episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh is joined by Kevin Karaca, founder of The House Outside, to unpack what tone of voice actually is, why so many brands play it safe, and how challenger brands can use language to create clarity, memory and real stopping power. We get into: why “sounding like everyone e...

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27:49

Building a Challenger Brand in a Brutal Category |...

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2026/01/13

Send us a text Chilled is one of the toughest places to build a food brand and most challengers don’t survive it. In this episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh sits down with Gaz Booth, founder of Holy Moly, to talk honestly about what it really takes to break through in a brutal category. We get into the real story behind the brand, the early mistakes, what scaling actually teaches you, and the misconceptions founders have about marketing and selling in chil...

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6:01

What Makes a Challenger Brand?

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2026/01/06

Send us a text In this first solo episode of Makin Mighty: The Challenger Sessions, Simon Greenwood-Haigh breaks down what a challenger brand actually is and why most brands get it wrong. It’s a short, honest look at the mindset that separates real challengers from the ones who only use the word in their pitch deck. Simon shares the core truths he’s seen across the industry, the common traps founders fall into, and a simple definition of challenger behaviour that sets the foundation for the...

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