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CISO Perspectives (public)

This season on CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones explores some of the challenges of leading through uncertainty. We explore the complexity of the changing nature of regulation and working with the federal government, the evolution of privacy and fraud, and how emerging technologies like AI and quantum computing are changing cyber. When you don’t know what questions to ask, you’re afraid to ask, or don’t know who to ask, CISO Perspectives provides the foundation for learning in this brave new

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36:51

The changing face of fraud.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/11/11

Fraud has always been a consistent challenge. As the world has continued to become increasingly interconnected and as new technologies have become widely available, threat actors have continued to evolve their tactics. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Mel Lanning from the Better Business Bureau to discuss fraud and how it has been evolving in recent years. From exploiting cryptocurrencies to utilizing emerging technologies, Kim and Mel look into how threat

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36:08

Privacy needs where you least expect it

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/11/04

When discussing privacy risks, many often look to implementing strong encryption, secure data storage practices, and data sanitization processes to help ensure sensitive information remains protected. Though these practices are good and should be prioritized, many often miss other key areas that need just as much focus. As the internet of things has only continued to grow larger and larger, so has the risk these devices inherently create as they collect and store more information than many would

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42:04

The impact of data privacy on cyber.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/10/28

Privacy is one of the most universally valued rights. Yet, despite its importance, data breaches exposing millions of people's sensitive information have become routine. Many have come to assume that their personal data has already been, or inevitably will be, compromised. Despite this reality, prioritizing privacy is more important than ever. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Kristy Westphal, the Global Security Director of Spirent Communications, to explore

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41:23

Regulation takeaways with Ethan Cook.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/10/21

On this episode, host Kim Jones is joined by Ethan Cook, N2K’s lead analyst and editor, for a deeper, more reflective conversation on cybersecurity regulation, privacy, and the future of policy. This episode steps back from the news cycle to connect the dots and explore where the regulatory landscape is heading — and why it matters.Ethan, who will join the show regularly this season to provide big-picture analysis after major policy conversations, shares his perspective on the evolving balance

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38:30

The existing state of regulation.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/09/23

Regulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations.In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to

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1:36

The return of CISO Perspectives.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/09/16

This season on CISO Perspectives—your host, Kim Jones is digging into the issues shaping the future of cybersecurity leadership. From the regulations every CISO needs to understand, to the unexpected places privacy risks are emerging, to the new ways fraud and identity are colliding—these conversations will sharpen your strategies and strengthen your defenses.Industry leaders join the discussion to share their insights, challenges, and hard-earned lessons. Together, we’ll connect the dots across

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56:12

Bringing it all together.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/07/08

In the season finale of CISOP, Kim Jones is joined by N2K’s own Ethan Cook to reflect on the conversations that shaped this season. Together, they revisit standout moments from Kim’s interviews, unpacking their significance and getting Ethan’s fresh perspective on the cybersecurity workforce challenge—as someone viewing the industry from the outside.Since the mid-season reflection, Kim has explored a wide range of workforce issues, including skills mapping, talent identification, and the evolving

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42:57

Mid season reflection with Kim Jones.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/06/10

In this mid-season episode, Kim takes a step back to reflect on the journey so far—revisiting key conversations, standout moments, and recurring themes that have shaped the season. During the episode, Kim sits down with N2K's own Ethan Cook to connect the dots across episodes, uncovering deeper patterns and takeaways. Whether you're catching up or tuning in weekly, this episode offers a thoughtful recap and fresh perspective on where we've been—and what's still to come.Learn more about your ad

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40:47

How do you gain “experience” in cyber without a job...

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/04/29

Show Notes: While the cybersecurity industry has expanded and grown in recent years, newcomers still struggle to gain relevant "experience" before officially beginning their cyber careers. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Kathleen Smith, the Chief Outreach Officer at clearedjobs.net and the co-host of Security Cleared Jobs: Who’s Hiring & How, to discuss this dilemma and what new entrants can do to account for these difficulties. Throughout the conversation,

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46:03

Are we a trade or a profession?

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/04/22

Show Notes: Cybersecurity has an identity problem where the industry as a whole is struggling to determine whether it is a trade or a profession. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Larry Whiteside Jr., the Chief Advisory Officer for The CISO Society, to discuss this identity crisis and how the industry as a whole connects to both of these labels. Throughout the conversation, Larry and Kim will discuss the merits and drawbacks of both labels and how cybersecurity

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42:06

Is the cyber talent ecosystem broken?

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/04/15

Show Notes: The cyber talent ecosystem faces severe indigestion, which has stifled growth and closed doors to new talent. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Ed Adams, the Head of Cybersecurity for North America at the Bureau Veritas Group, to discuss what has caused this indigestion and how leadership can better address these challenges. A key aspect of this conversation revolved around discussing Ed's book, See Yourself in Cyber: Security Careers Beyond Hacking,

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0:47

CISO Perspectives is back!

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2025/04/08

In CISO Perspectives, Kim Jones, a CISO with over four decades of real-world security and risk management experience, sits down with industry leaders throughout this series for candid conversations that share their experiences and perspectives about the cybersecurity industry and the many challenges it faces. Whether it be cybersecurity leadership, talent ecosystems, career entry points, or certifications, these conversations will help you build a stronger and more impactful cyber ecosystem within

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19:59

So you want to write a book about AI and cybersecurity?

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2024/11/25

Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, turns over hosting duties to Caroline Wong, the Chief Strategy Officer at Cobalt to discuss the mechanics of writing a cybersecurity book about AI.References: Ben Smith. “Security Metrics: A Beginner’s Guide” Review [Review]. Cybersecurity Canon Project. Caroline Wong, 2011. Security Metrics, A Beginner’s Guide [Book]. Goodreads. Rick Howard, Caroline Wong, 2022. Interview with Author and Hall of Fame winner Caroline Wong [Interview]

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23:18

Cyber-entrepreneurship in the age of CyberAI.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2024/11/18

Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, turns over hosting duties to Kevin Magee, the Global Director of Cybersecurity Startups at Microsoft to discuss Cyber-entrepreneurship in the age of CyberAI. For a complete reading list and even more information, check out Rick’s more detailed essay on the topic. References: Andrew McCarty, Emma Eschweiler, Natalie Fratto, Andrew Pardo, Jake Ledbetter, 2024. The Rise of CyberAI [Analysis]. Silicon Valley Bank. Camille Périssère, 2024

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15:48

Veterans Day Special.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2024/11/11

Rick Howard, The CyberWire’s Chief Analyst, CSO, and Senior Fellow, and the cast of the entire CyberWire team, honor our U.S. veterans on this special day.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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22:49

State of security automation.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2024/11/04

Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, turns over hosting duties to William MacMillan, the Chief Product Officer at Andesite, to discuss the Cybersecurity First Principle of automation: current state and what happens now with AI as it applies to SOC Operations. For a complete reading list and even more information, check out Rick’s more detailed essay on the topic. Check out Rick's 3-part election mini-series: Part 1: Election Propaganda Part 1: How Does Election Propaganda

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11:23

How to turn tech insights into real advantages.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2024/10/28

Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, turns over hosting duties to Dr. Rebecca Wynn, the Click Solutions Group Global Chief Security Strategist & CISO. She interviews Justin Daniels, a Baker Donelson lawyer and podcast host with expertise in cyber operations, M&A, and investment capital transactions, on the current state of cyber law and compliance.Check out Rick's 3-part election mini-series: Part 1: Election Propaganda Part 1: How Does Election Propaganda Work? In this

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18:25

Identity 3.0.

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2024/10/21

Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, turns over hosting responsibilities to Kim Jones, the Managing Director at Ursus Security Consulting. He takes a first principles look at the idea of identity.Check out Rick's 3-part election mini-series: Part 1: Election Propaganda Part 1: How Does Election Propaganda Work? In this episode, Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses personal defensive measures that every citizen can take—regardless of

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46:43

Election Propaganda: Part 3: Efforts to reduce the...

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2024/10/16

Thinking past the US 2024 Presidential Election, In part three of the series, Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses reducing the impact of propaganda in the future elections with Perry Carpenter, Chief Human Risk Management Strategist at KnowBe4 and host of the 8th Layer Insights Podcast, Nina Jankowicz, Co-Founder and CEO of the The American Sunlight Project, and Scott Small, Director of Cyber Threat Intelligence at Tidal Cyber.Check out Part 1 & 2! Part 1:

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50:31

Election Propaganda: Part 2: Modern propaganda...

CISO Perspectives (public) ·

2024/10/09

In preparation for the US 2024 Presidential Election, Rick Howard, N2K CyberWire’s Chief Analyst and Senior Fellow, discusses recent international propaganda efforts in the form of nation state interference and influence operations as well as domestic campaigns designed to split the target country into opposing camps. Guests include Nina Jankowicz, Co-Founder and CEO of the The American Sunlight Project and Scott Small, Director of Cyber Threat Intelligence at Tidal Cyber. References: Scott Small,

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