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Tatter-a-fact® PMU Podcast

Teryn Darling is a legend in the Permanent Makeup industry. She"s dedicated 20+ years to the craft of permanent makeup and in that time she"s grown her company, Girlz Ink, into a global brand and industry standard. Teryn"s overcome a lot of adversity and has done pretty well for herself in the PMU world! She"s developed her skills as a cosmetic tattooer and to do that she had to develop her skills as an entrepreneur and business woman. Expect smart, sharp conversations. Teryn doesn"t hold back so

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103:11

The No-B.S. Truth About PMU with Robin Hays Velez ...

Tatter-a-fact® PMU Podcast ·

2025/11/14

Send us a text In this episode, Teryn Darling sits down with industry veteran Robin Hays Velez, a PMU artist with over 32 years of experience, to talk about what it really takes to last in permanent makeup. From pigments and needle choices to burnout, ethics, and regulators… nothing is off the table. If you’ve ever wondered what’s true, what’s hype, and what actually matters for long-term success in PMU, this one’s for you. What You’ll Learn Pigment science: The real differences between iron ...

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80:21

PMU Pros South Africa: Building Real Community, Real...

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2025/10/31

Send us a text In this episode, Teryn Darling sits down with Chantal Chadderton, founder of PMU Pros, a 4-day international PMU expo and conference in Durban, South Africa, bringing together top educators, artists, and brands from around the world. They talk about what really makes a great PMU conference, quality education, supportive community, ethics, organization, and a whole lot of passion. Chantal shares how she’s building something special for artists ready to grow, connect, and elevate...

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106:03

The Learning Curve Series, Part 3: Understanding...

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2025/10/17

Send us a text Think you know your pigments? Think again. In this episode of The Learning Curve Series, Teryn Darling dives deep into the pigment learning curve, breaking down the truth about iron oxides, organics, and hybrids so you can finally understand why your pigments behave the way they do. Learn what really causes gray brows, migration, and fading, how particle size and carbon black impact healed results, and what adjustments to make when switching pigment types. Whether you’re an art...

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81:52

The Learning Curve Series, Part 2: Mastering PMU...

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2025/10/03

Send us a text Think one needle fits all? Think again. In Part 2 of The Learning Curve Series, Teryn breaks down the myths, the learning curve, and the freedom that comes with mastering liners, shaders, and mags. So you can achieve beautiful results on every skin type and every style (powder brows, lips, eyeliner, areola, and more). What you’ll learn: Why one needle can’t meet every client request.How to adjust speed, pressure, stretch, passes, and angle when switching configs.Why larger grou...

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64:09

The Learning Curve Series, Part 1: Machines | TAF #111

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2025/09/19

Send us a text Switching to a new PMU machine can feel like starting all over again. Suddenly your healed results look different, your depth feels off, and frustration sets in. But that’s not failure, it’s the learning curve. In this episode, Teryn Darling walks you through what really happens when you pick up a new machine: the vibration feels strange, the stroke is different, the voltage doesn’t behave the same, and your muscle memory needs time to catch up. She shares her own big switches,...

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99:55

PMU Fundamentals: The Key to Consistent Healed...

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2025/09/05

Send us a text If you want a long, thriving career in PMU, consistent healed results, confident color choices, and the ability to pivot on tough skin, this episode is your blueprint. Teryn breaks down the core fundamentals every permanent makeup artist must master (and keep revisiting): skin science, pigment theory, needles, machines, hand movements, stretch, depth, and saturation strategy. Whether you’re doing powder brows, nano brows, combination brows, eyeliner tattooing, or lips, this is ...

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103:57

Topical Anesthetics in PMU: Safety, Retention & Pupil...

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2025/08/22

Send us a text In this episode of the Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast, Teryn dives deep into the truth about topical anesthetics in permanent makeup, what works, what doesn’t, and what every artist needs to know to keep clients safe and results beautiful. From melting and migrating formulas that ruin mapping and stretch… to the real facts on whether anesthetics affect pigment retention… to the rise in reported cases of pupil dilation during eyeliner tattooing, this episode is packed with ...

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46:55

Nickel Allergies in PMU: Proceed or Pause? | TAF #108

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2025/08/08

Send us a text In today’s episode of the Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast, we’re diving deep into a question every permanent makeup artist will face at some point: “My client is allergic to nickel… should I still move forward with the procedure?” With 25+ years in the industry and over 20,000 procedures under her belt, Teryn shares her real-world experience, breaks down the science behind nickel in PMU pigments and needles, and explains why she feels 100% confident tattooing even clients with known...

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73:08

The Truth About Tattooed Freckles in PMU - TAF #107

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2025/07/25

Send us a text In this powerful episode of the Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast, Teryn Darling sits down with Jessica Ashley of Stunna Beauty to talk about one of the most debated procedures in the permanent makeup world: tattooed freckles. From ombre brows and lip blush to the artistry of freckles, Jessica shares how she transformed a personal obsession into a signature PMU service now loved by clients across the country. But not everyone in the industry is on board—and that’s exactly why this epis...

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74:14

4 Years, One Vision: The Story Behind The Pendulum |...

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2025/07/11

Send us a text In this episode of the Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast, host Teryn Darling sits down with Katri Pagliaro, a permanent makeup artist and first-time inventor who’s making BIG waves in the industry. After four years of passion, prototypes, and perseverance, Katri launched The Pendulum—a never-before-seen pencil sharpening tool designed specifically for PMU artists who use China markers for pre-draws and mapping. Teryn and Katri dive deep into: The 4-year journey of developing a product ...

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72:33

How to Use ChatGPT to Grow Your PMU Business | TAF #105

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2025/06/27

Send us a text Are you tired of staring at a blank screen trying to write Instagram captions or brainstorm content ideas for your PMU business? What if AI could help you show up consistently, attract your dream clients, and build your brand—all while saving time and stress? In this episode of the Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast, Teryn Darling sits down with PMU educator and marketing-savvy artist Leann La of Fusion Artistry to talk about how she's using ChatGPT and other AI tools to simplify conten...

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86:09

Studio Ownership, Burnout & Staying Grounded in PMU...

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2025/06/13

Send us a text In this raw and real episode, Teryn Darling sits down with PMU educator and artist Shay Danielle to talk about what it really takes to build longevity in the permanent makeup industry. They dive into the highs and lows of studio ownership, how burnout impacts even the most successful artists, and why staying authentic in a changing PMU world matters more than ever. Shay opens up about being seen as a role model, working with her husband, and the challenges of growing a business...

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79:51

Thick Pigments? Poor Retention? Let’s Fix That! | TAF...

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2025/05/30

Send us a text PMU besties, get ready for one of the most educational + honest episodes yet! In this week’s Tatter-a-Fact, Teryn Darling and her wife + business partner Kat are diving deep into one of the most misunderstood topics in the permanent makeup world: pigment viscosity and retention problems. Whether you’re confused by why some PMU pigments are thick, struggling with healed results that aren’t lasting, or just need a little boost in your color theory + machine technique knowl...

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75:25

PMU Q&A: Aftercare, Pigments for Fitz 5-6, Eyeliner...

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2025/05/16

Send us a text In Episode #102 of the Tatter-a-fact PMU Podcast, Teryn Darling is back with Kat for a deep dive into your most frequently asked questions in permanent makeup! From aftercare best practices to pigment choices for Fitzpatrick 5 and 6 clients, this episode is jam-packed with real talk, expert advice, and proven techniques from a PMU veteran. Here’s what we cover in this episode: ✅ PMU Aftercare Tips: What aftercare ointments Teryn uses (and avoids) for brows, eyeliner, lips, an...

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71:43

The Truth About Titanium Dioxide: Friend or Foe in...

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2025/05/02

Send us a text Welcome to another powerful episode of the Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast with Teryn Darling, founder of Girlz Ink and industry-renowned pigment expert. In this episode, we dive deep into one of the most talked-about—and misunderstood—ingredients in permanent makeup pigments: titanium dioxide. Is it safe? Does it really cause chalky results? How does it behave in the skin over time? Teryn breaks it all down with honesty, clarity, and 20+ years of PMU expertise. 👉 Whether you're a

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68:14

Taxes, Retirement & Wealth-Building Tips for PMU Artists

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2025/04/18

Send us a text In this throwback episode of the Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast, Teryn Darling sits down with her long-time tax advisor and friend, Mark Rizzo—a tax pro who actually loves taxes (yes, really!). They dive deep into real-world money advice every permanent makeup artist should hear—from understanding LLCs and S Corps, to claiming your cash income properly, to investing smart and building wealth while doing what you love. Mark shares the wild tax history of tip earners in Las Vegas, br...

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70:58

It Can't Stay This Shitty Forever | TAF #100

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2025/04/04

Send us a text 🎉 We made it! The 100th episode of the Tatter-a-fact PMU Podcast is here, and this one is extra special. Join us as we take a deep dive into the challenges, setbacks, and hard lessons we’ve faced—and how we’ve come out stronger on the other side. If you're feeling stuck in your permanent makeup business (or life), this episode is for you. 💬 "Nothing stays shitty forever."* That’s the theme of today’s episode, where we get real about struggles in business, the PMU industry,

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68:20

The Science of Pigment Dilution in PMU: How & Why It...

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2025/03/21

Send us a text Are you diluting your PMU pigments? If not, you might be missing out on one of the most powerful techniques for achieving soft, powdery, and customized healed results in permanent makeup! In this episode of the Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast, Teryn Darling dives deep into the science of pigment dilution—how it works, why it works, and when to use it for brows, eyeliner, lips, and more. What You'll Learn in This Episode: ✅ How pigment dilution can improve healed results in PMU ✅ Th...

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83:26

Struggling with Lip Tattooing? What You Need to Know...

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2025/03/07

Send us a text 💄 Struggling with lip tattooing? You're not alone! In this episode of Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast, I sit down with Kerry Welstead, a true expert in lip tattooing, to share insights on achieving stunning, long-lasting results with less trauma. 🎙️ WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: ✔️ The biggest mistake PMU artists make when tattooing lips ✔️ How to boost pigment retention on the first session ✔️ Why Magnum needles are a total game-changer ✔️ The trick to reducing trauma & swelling during

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Overcoming Fear, Neurodiversity & Growth in PMU with...

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2025/02/21

Send us a text In this episode of the Tatter-a-Fact PMU Podcast, Teryn Darling sits down with Zoe Braun, a PMU artist with a background in finance and engineering, to talk about how she overcame introversion, fear, and neurodiversity to build a successful career in permanent makeup. 🎙️✨ 💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: ✔️ From Finance to PMU – How Zoe transitioned from the corporate world to permanent makeup ✔️ Introversion & Overcoming Social Anxiety – How she stepped out of her

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