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The Devin & Shay Show | Best Photography & Videography Podcast

Shayna Lloyd + Devin Larson

The Devin and Shay Show is the go-to podcast for photographers and videographers who want to grow a profitable, fulfilling creative business—without burning out.Each week, hybrid photo/video pros Shayna Lloyd and Devin Larson pull back the curtain on what it actually takes to scale your services, raise your prices, and create standout work that books. From marketing and content creation to client experience, systems, and travel workflows, we’re sharing the real, unfiltered strategies that have built

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74:28

Behind the Scenes of Our Montana Photo & Video...

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2025/10/03

This episode of The Devin and Shay Show is as raw and unfiltered as it gets. We’re spilling every single detail about hosting our Montana photo + video retreat—the wins, the mistakes, the behind-the-scenes chaos, and everything we learned about planning, marketing, and executing an event like this. We put an enormous amount of pressure on ourselves to make this the best retreat in the industry—not just another styled shoot or business weekend, but a true experience that delivered on every le...

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50:40

Why Pinterest Still Works for Photographers (and How...

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2025/09/24

In this episode of The Devin and Shay Show, Shay interviews Pinterest and SEO consultant Julia Bocchese about how photographers can use Pinterest to consistently generate inquiries. Julia shares why Pinterest should be treated like a search engine, the importance of keyword-rich pins and optimized boards, and how to use Pinterest Trends and Google Analytics for content planning. She also dives into website best practices to make sure Pinterest traffic actually converts, and when it makes sense to

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27:28

The Instagram Strategy Photographers Are Missing (And...

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2025/09/17

In this episode of The Devin and Shay Show, Devin and Shay interview photographer and educator Rachel Traxler about lead generation, funnels, and SEO for photographers. Rachel explains why visibility alone won’t book clients, the six pinned Instagram posts that attract different buyer types, and how to use vendor collaborations and blog posts to boost inquiries. She also shares her strategy of creating tangible wedding albums with QR codes for venues, helping couples connect with photographers

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60:20

Photographers: Stop Relying on Referrals—Here’s How...

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2025/09/10

In this episode of The Devin and Shay Show, Shay interviews sales coach and strategist Megan Smyth about sales strategies every photographer and videographer needs to book more clients. Megan shares how to build a simple sales funnel using a lead magnet and email marketing, why sales calls should always end with a clear yes, no, or next step, and how to handle money objections with empathy instead of pressure. They dive into the difference between marketing and selling, how to stop relying on

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60:43

How an Astrologer Predicted Our Two-Year Business...

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2025/09/03

In this episode of The Devin and Shay Show, Devin and Shay talk with astrologer and transformational coach Jaz about astrology, entrepreneurship, and navigating change. They reflect on an inside joke from the early days of their business—when Jaz predicted a two-year Pluto transit just as Shay said they needed two years to reach profitability—and how it all came full circle during their rebrand. Jaz shares how chart readings can guide timing and clarity, why heart-centered people make powerful

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33:44

Are we done using the Word “luxury” in the wedding...

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2025/08/29

SHAY HAS THE ICK. In this episode of The Devin and Shay Show, Devin and Shay break down why they’re ditching the word luxury in their wedding photography and videography business. They share unfiltered thoughts on how the wedding industry uses “luxury” as a buzzword for posturing, why it doesn’t reflect the couples they serve, and how photographers can build a high-end brand without selling out their values. From handling rainy elopements to dealing with out-of-touch planners, they talk about what

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11:57

What to expect at the best photo/video retreat in the...

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2025/08/13

Ready to book dream photo and video clients in Glacier National Park and beyond? In this episode, we're taking you inside the most intentional, strategy-packed, experience-driven photo and video retreat in the industry — happening this September in Northwest Montana.We walk you through every part of the retreat — from luxury portfolio-building shoots in Glacier National Park, Flathead Lake, and the Cabins at Blacktail… to deep-dive education on SEO, blogging, hybrid shooting, video marketing,

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34:30

Afraid to Invest in Your Photo/Video Business? Fear...

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2025/08/08

If you're afraid to invest in your photography or videography business, you're not alone. One of the biggest things holding creatives back is fear—fear of spending money, fear of not making it back, and fear of failure. But the truth is, fear and belief can’t exist in the same space. In this episode, we’re talking about how that fear often stems from not separating personal and business finances, and how real business growth starts when you learn to invest with a plan. We also walk through th...

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77:23

Same Hosts, New Era: Why We Rebranded + What’s Next...

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2025/07/18

RIP Hey, Thriver We’re spilling everything—why we’re rebranding, what’s happening to our paid programs, and what’s next for The Devin and Shay Show. After months of behind-the-scenes changes, we’re finally sharing the full story: why we’re saying goodbye to the Hey, Thriver name, what it means for you, and how we’re closing down all of our current courses and programs. We’re going all in on our Montana & Glacier National Park retreat this season—and after that? We’re building something ...

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46:46

How Alora Rachelle Built a Six-Figure Photography...

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2025/07/02

In this episode of Hey, Thriver, we’re joined by Alora Rachelle—wedding photographer turned business strategist and host of the Wedding Atelier podcast. Alora shares how she scaled from $10K to $100K+, overcame burnout, and built a life-first business by raising her prices, refining her brand, and embracing the CEO mindset. We talk about separating your personal worth from your pricing, how to attract high-end clients, and why being incomparable is your biggest asset. Plus, we get real a...

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44:02

Hybrid Shooting for Photographers: Master Photo and...

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2025/06/25

Want to raise your prices, book better clients, and finally stand out in a saturated photography market? Hybrid shooting—offering both photo and video—is how you do it. In this episode, Shayna and Devin break down exactly how to start capturing both without burning out or overcomplicating your workflow. They share gear tips, marketing strategies, mindset shifts, and how hybrid shooting transformed their businesses. Plus, they talk about how Thrive: Montana gives you hands-on experience to bui...

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35:28

How Connecting with Like-Minded Creatives Can...

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2025/06/18

Feeling stuck, burnt out, or just plain lonely in your photography or videography business? You’re not the only one. In this episode, Shayna and Devin open up about the isolation that often comes with creative entrepreneurship—and how building real, supportive relationships has completely changed the way they work and grow. We’re diving into why community matters, how collaboration fuels creativity and business success, and what it really looks like to stop doing this alone. Plus, a behind-th...

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47:28

Destination Weddings and Elopements: Scaling Your...

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2025/06/11

🎧 HEY, THRIVER PODCAST – HOW TO BOOK DESTINATION WEDDINGS & ELOPEMENTS AS A PHOTOGRAPHER OR VIDEOGRAPHER Dreaming of booking destination weddings and elopements but unsure how to make it happen? In this episode, Shayna and Devin break down why destination work is incredibly lucrative, how to market yourself to adventurous couples, and the strategies you need to position your business for high-paying destination bookings. 📌 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: ⏳ [Introduction] Why

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54:36

How to Master Shooting Indoor and Artificial Light...

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2025/06/04

🎙️ In this episode of the Hey, Thriver podcast, Shayna and Devin sit down with Eden Strader—photographer, business coach, and artificial lighting queen—to talk about:How Eden built a seven-figure business by 28 and transitioned from weddings to coaching during the pandemicWhy she ditched 90-hour work weeks for a life full of freedom, fun, and fulfillmentThe rising trend of artificial lighting and how it empowers photographers to be more creative, consistent, and confidentAffordable flash gear

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60:45

You can't scale your photography business with a bad...

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2025/05/30

🎧 HEY, THRIVER PODCAST – YOU CAN’T SCALE YOUR BUSINESS WITH BAD MONEY MINDSET W/ GINA KNOXWant to hit six figures (and beyond) in your photography or videography business—but feel stuck when it comes to money? Your mindset around money is just as important as your pricing strategy. In this episode, Shayna and Devin sit down with financial coach Gina Knox to unpack three critical money mindset shifts that every creative entrepreneur needs to make in order to grow, scale, and build long-term

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59:10

Paying Yourself Consistently as a Photographer: How...

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2025/05/28

Photographers and videographers—if you've ever wondered how to pay yourself consistently (even during slow seasons), this episode is for you. Financial coach Gina Knox joins Shayna and Devin to break down how to build a sustainable business using her signature Cash Flow Waterfall system. We talk about why percentage-based pay strategies don’t work, how to stop self-sabotaging your finances, and the mindset shifts creative entrepreneurs must make to scale. Plus, we get real about our own

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47:14

Styled Shoot Drama, Online Complaining, and Building...

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2025/05/17

This casual end-of-week episode of the Hey, Thriver podcast is packed with real talk for photographers and videographers. Shayna and Devin catch up on their lives and businesses, then dive into the latest controversy around styled shoots in the photography industry. They break down why complaining online can backfire as a creative business owner, and share a behind-the-scenes look at Thrive: Montana — their in-person retreat for hybrid shooters ready to grow a profitable, aligned business. W...

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68:10

How to Book Brand Photography Work with Karen...

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2025/05/13

What if your brand visuals actually moved the needle in your business?In this episode of the Hey, Thriver podcast, Shay and Devin sit down with Karen Williams, visual creative director and founder of Black Visual Queen. Karen shares how she helps creative entrepreneurs show up as the face and visionary behind their brand—crafting visuals that do more than look good; they sell, convert, and align with the direction you're headed.You’ll learn how she builds strategic brand identities that evolve

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103:12

Fully Book Out DREAM Destination Weddings ft....

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2025/04/22

In this episode, we’re sharing the exact strategy we use to stay fully booked with dream destination weddings and elopements — without relying on social media trends, ads, or luck. We break down the ELOPE framework we teach at our in-person retreat, Thrive: Montana, and explain how each part of your content strategy can work together to get you in front of the right clients consistently. We’re also joined by Danielle Johnson, who’s teaching live at Thrive: Montana this year. She shares powerf...

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33:03

Super 8 Contract for Photographers: What You Need to...

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2025/03/25

🎙️ Thinking about offering Super 8 film to your photography or videography clients? Before you hit record, make sure you’re legally protected. In this episode of the Hey, Thriver Podcast, Shay and Devin sit down with Paige Griffith of The Legal Paige to break down exactly what makes Super 8 different — and why your current contract probably isn’t enough.We’re talking about:The biggest legal risks of offering Super 8Clauses you must include in your contractHow to set client expectations around

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