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The Devil You Don’t Know

In The Devil You Don’t Know, Lindsay, Cleveland, and their guests discuss personal growth and development by taking chances and getting out of your comfort zone. Topics range from whimsical to serious and everything in between but are always relevant to growth and development.

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48:04

Saying Yes To What Is: An Antidote to Suffering

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2025/10/06

Send us a text What if the pain you feel isn’t the problem—what if the fight against it is? We dive into the quiet habit of saying “no” to our own emotions, how that creates the “second arrow” of suffering, and why radical acceptance can be the most practical, compassionate path forward. From grief and breakups to career ruts and body goals, we share real stories and useful tools for meeting hard moments without numbing or spiraling. We unpack the difference between pain and suffering, and h...

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40:20

Undoing the Us vs. Them: The Trap of Toxic Othering

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2025/09/29

Send us a text Lindsay and Cleveland dive into the concept of toxic othering and how it affects our relationships and society at large, exploring practical ways to bridge divides through mindfulness and self-awareness. • The problem of "othering" creates division between groups based on race, religion, politics, and personal beliefs • Why we judge and isolate others: learned behaviors from childhood and society • How othering creates two prisons - one for the "othered" and one for those doin...

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48:12

Your Emotional Triggers Are Actually Medicine in...

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2025/09/06

Send us a text Have you ever wondered why certain people or situations trigger such intense emotional reactions in you? What if those triggers aren't just annoying disruptions but actually powerful messengers trying to reveal something important about your unhealed wounds? In this thought-provoking episode, we dive deep into the concept of turning reactivity into wisdom. Instead of the typical blame game we play when triggered ("How could they be so insensitive?"), we explore a radical alter...

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55:42

Rise Above the Script: Why Your Brain Fights Your...

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2025/08/17

Send us a text Have you ever found yourself on the verge of a breakthrough only to sabotage your progress? You're not alone. In this deeply insightful conversation with Dr. Albert Bramante, performance psychologist, talent agent, and author of "Rise Above the Script," we explore the hidden narratives that keep even the most talented individuals stuck. Our brains are hardwired for comfort and safety—evolutionary adaptations that once protected us but now hold us back. Dr. Bramante reveals why...

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55:44

The Divorce You Don’t Regret: Mediation, Money &...

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2025/08/08

Send us a text Joe Dillon, co-founder of Equitable Mediation Services, shares how couples can navigate divorce with clarity, compassion, and collaboration rather than through costly, emotionally destructive litigation. • Divorce doesn't have to be a disaster or train wreck if couples choose to move forward amicably • Mediation promotes "win-win" scenarios instead of the "win-lose" or "lose-lose" outcomes common in litigation • "Interest-based negotiation" focuses on finding alternatives that...

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49:00

Jack Ruins Everything: When Adult Children Hijack...

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2025/07/17

Send us a text Cleveland and Lindsay explore the problem of adult children controlling their parents' lives, sparked by overhearing a family vacation conversation about how "Jack ruins everything." They examine the balance between loving your adult children and preventing them from disrupting your peace and happiness. • Adult children are guests in your home, not entitled residents • Setting boundaries doesn't mean you don't love your children • Cultural differences in the Caribbean demonstr...

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40:29

The Alchemy of Acceptance: The Power of Embracing...

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2025/06/29

Send us a text We explore the concept of emotional acceptance and how confronting rather than avoiding difficult feelings is essential to healing from trauma. Transformation happens when we learn to accept our emotions and reframe our relationship with past pain. • Understanding why "you've got to feel it to heal it" • Exploring how trauma physically lives in the body as "issues in the tissues" • Learning about the destructive impact of shame and negative core beliefs • Recognizing unhelpful...

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27:31

The Window, The Car, and The Dress: Tales from the...

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2025/06/24

Send us a text Lindsay and Cleveland explore the messy reality of parenting through recent chaotic events in their household, from a crashed car and shattered picture window to prom dress drama and boundary-setting with young adult children. • A car crash in the driveway leads to insurance claims and unexpected Enterprise rental experiences • The Queen Mom's prom dress saga involves ordering twenty dresses and last-minute shoe shopping • A well-intentioned furniture cleaning attempt results ...

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47:47

Why Trusting Your Gut Changes Everything

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2025/06/14

Send us a text Most people don't trust themselves, constantly seeking external validation and living unhappy lives despite trying to please everyone around them. • Self-trust means being comfortable with who you are rather than constantly seeking approval • When you don't trust yourself, you give up command of your life and surrender your agency • Setting boundaries aligns with self-trust and allows you to identify who respects you • Family relationships often challenge our self-trust when w...

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50:29

Are You Together?

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2025/04/27

Send us a text Shores of Nevis From the white sands of Nevis, we find ourselves reflecting on a deceptively simple question: What does it mean to truly be together? For us, an interracial couple navigating the rhythms of a blended family, this question surfaces in unexpected places – in the confused looks of airline staff separating us during boarding, in the puzzled expressions of theme park employees unsure how to categorize our family. These moments, often met with laughter now, point to a...

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30:44

Island Escapes and Life Lessons: Finding Paradise in...

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2025/04/19

Send us a text What starts as a terrifying moment pre-flight turns into a wake-up call I didn’t know I needed. On our way to Nevis, I fainted on the plane—no warning, just out cold. The timing felt awful... until we found out later that the plane’s computer system failed after we got off. What seemed like bad luck was actually divine intervention, and it shook me awake in more ways than one. From the porch of our quiet villa in Nevis, Lindsay and I talk about the deep contrast between the rel...

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58:49

The Gravity of Unspoken Expectations: Why Your...

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2025/04/13

Send us a text Cleveland and Lindsay return after a long break to tackle the frustrating phenomenon of silent scripts in relationships and why expecting your partner to read your mind sets you both up for failure. • Silent scripts are unspoken expectations we have for our partners but never communicate directly • The absurdity of expecting mind-reading from partners when we'd never expect it in other relationships • Covert contracts create one-sided agreements where we expect something in re...

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40:59

The Breath Reset: Breaking Free From Perfectionism

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2025/03/16

Send us a text Self-judgment holds us back from authentic growth by triggering stress responses and reinforcing negative beliefs about ourselves. Perfectionism, deeply rooted in childhood experiences and amplified by social media, creates impossible standards that disconnect us from our true selves. • Our brains evolved for survival not happiness, making negativity our default mode • Self-criticism raises cortisol levels by 37%, creating physical stress responses • Gabor Maté's compassionate...

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54:00

Separate and Unequal: America's School Segregation...

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2025/03/09

Send us a text Educational segregation in America has reached crisis levels, with schools more segregated today than in the 1980s, despite Brown v. Board of Education supposedly ending this practice decades ago. We explore how systemic issues including funding disparities, zoning policies, and power structures maintain educational inequality across racial and economic lines. • Shocking statistics reveal non-white school districts receive $23 billion less annually than white districts • The p...

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63:40

I Don't Have A Point to Prove: Why Every Argument...

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2025/03/03

Send us a text In this engaging episode, we explore the ramifications of fighting over every point and why it often leads to unnecessary stress and emotional exhaustion. Through candid discussions, we share personal anecdotes that shed light on how the need to be right in our current divisive climate impacts our relationships and overall well-being. This episode uniquely draws on the reasons why politeness and effective communication are not just desirable, but essential in a time when politi...

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47:30

Do Better Next Time

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2025/01/20

Send us a textOur recent episode focuses on empathy and the vital role it plays in countering division in today's world. We highlight Dave Chappelle's (SNL 50) poignant remarks on humanity, trauma, and compassion in the wake of societal upheaval, urging listeners to reflect on how they can elevate empathy in their own lives. • Exploring Chappelle's perspective on division and empathy • The necessity of compassion in mental health • Realizing the uniqueness of each individual's ...

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32:48

Accountability is an Inside Job

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2025/01/12

Send us a textThis episode centers on the theme that accountability is fundamentally an inside job, exploring the connection between personal responsibility and healing through acceptance. We discuss stories of transformation, lessons from experts like Gabor Maté and Mel Robbins, and personal experiences that highlight the challenges of taking ownership in our lives. • Accountability starts with self-reflection • Insights from the Hope Program on personal transformation • The i...

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58:30

Creating Calm Amid Life's Unexpected Twists

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2025/01/06

Send us a textThis episode navigates the complexities of emotional fatigue and the overwhelming nature of modern life. Through personal stories and discussions on societal expectations, we explore acceptance, the dangers of information overload, and the importance of living authentically.• Discussing the challenge of accepting unexpected returns in family dynamics • Reflection on emotional toll from personal experiences and holidays • Exploring the phenomenon of news fatigue and its...

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61:00

Building Connection Through Chaos: Finding Community...

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2024/12/02

Send us a textWhat happens when you blend the chaos of a kitchen flood with the warmth of a vegan Friendsgiving? Join us as we share our latest escapades, from Cleveland's ponderings of a PhD amidst his return to the office grind to Lindsay's unwavering resolve to steer clear of academia. Our Thanksgiving tales range from serene home-cooked vegan roasts to the bustling camaraderie of Friendsgiving, all while juggling Cleveland's quirky feats of knowledge and his hilarious domestic faux pas.&n...

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64:44

Navigating Life's Chaos: Embracing Connection in the...

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2024/11/18

Send us a textWhat happens when two therapists, bound by marriage, tackle life's chaos together? From home renovations that never seem to end to tales of a high-tech toilet that's more intelligent than we'd like to admit, our lives have been anything but dull. We've celebrated our daughter's 17th birthday and navigated the frustrating saga of our son's dorm room ceiling failures, all while finding moments of culinary joy in a vegan smoked sweet potato ravioli. This episode is a whirlwind tour...

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