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The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.

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422 - Why Exaggeration Is Necessary in Storytelling

The Symbolic World ·

2025/11/18

Given we're still in the fall season, I watched The Conjuring and it got me thinking about how real events can become exaggerated in story form. In this video, I look at how legends are created, and that exaggeration of certain elements of an event can help amplify the meaning and purpose of why we're paying attention to it in the first place.Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/fA2cKrvYyTkParadiso live course details:The Symbolic World Enters ParadiseJoin me and Deacon Seraphim Rohlin this

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421 - Deacon Seraphim (Richard) Rohlin - Recovering...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/11/14

I’m excited to share this powerful talk by Deacon Seraphim Rohlin, my collaborator at the Symbolic World Press and co-host of the Universal History Podcast. In this talk from the 2025 Touchstone Conference, he explores how we can recover our heritage and live an enchanted Christian life. The title of his talk originally was "The Deep Pattern: Re-Enchanting Time through Medieval Universal History".YouTube version: https://youtu.be/EtvIpApaSrEhttps://www.touchstonemag.com/Universal History podcast:

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420 - How Free Will Actually Works

The Symbolic World ·

2025/11/06

This was September 2025's patron video that we decided to make public. Thank you to my supporters.I explore the question of free will, drawing on the insights of St. Maximus the Confessor. While thinkers like Sam Harris argue that free will is an illusion and always contingent on material circumstances, I show how the Christian understanding reframes freedom—not as arbitrary choice, but as submission to the good. True freedom is not transgression, but moving toward higher and higher goods, where

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419 - Trick or Treat: Halloween Symbolism in Little...

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2025/10/31

Pre-order Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf now and get a free audiobook read by me, as well as an exclusive Q&A: https://store.thesymbolicworld.com/products/the-tale-of-little-red-riding-hood-and-the-big-bad-wolf💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson:

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418 - The Symbolism of the Entire Divine Comedy in...

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2025/10/29

In this video, I read and reflect on the first canto of Dante’s Divine Comedy — the opening of Inferno. This incredible canto puts the entire poem in perspective, serving as a microcosm for Dante's journey through inferno, purgatory, and into paradise. I discuss in detail, line by line, the rich symbolism and meaning Dante conveys.YouTube version: https://youtu.be/7zzQRg0muMoIf you enjoy this kind of symbolic analysis, join me and Deacon Seraphim Rohlin as we continue through Dante’s Paradiso,

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417 - Three Things Christians Must Do to Rebuild...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/10/25

This talk took place at the 2025 Touchstone conference, Great and Wonderful Days: Rediscovering the Christian Life in a Post-Christian Age. The title of my talk was “This is the Day”. https://www.touchstonemag.com/Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/cnMk_GFpVbwI explore how our modern world—built on endless disruption and self-expression—has reached its breaking point. We’re witnessing the collapse of a culture that forgot its source, but that’s also at the beginnings of renewal. From art and

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416 - Tangled: The Triumph of Self-Realization

The Symbolic World ·

2025/10/17

I explore how Disney’s Tangled reimagines the classic Rapunzel story and what these changes reveal about our modern world. Tangled captures a pivotal moment in Disney’s storytelling where there was a shift from the traditional fairy tale’s emphasis on a marriage union, to a more modern emphasis on personal self-realization. I also reflect on how these themes connect to our own retelling, Rapunzel and the Evil Witch.YouTube version: https://youtu.be/o8BJcX61H08Buy Rapunzel and the Evil Witch:

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415 - Charlie Kirk's Assassination: We have gone...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/10/10

Huge changes are happening in the political landscape. In this video, I reflect on the assassination of Charlie Kirk and how this moment has deeply affected me toward recognizing how broken our unity has become. Drawing on symbolic insights, I explore the danger of turning opposition into real enmity and the need to return to truth, forgiveness, and higher purpose.YouTube version: https://youtu.be/NrDbHQurRpgThe recent interview with my brother, Matthieu, that I mention in the video:

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414 - Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin (Universal History) -...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/10/03

Enchantment never truly disappeared from the modern world.In this episode of Universal History Deacon Seraphim Rohlin and I explore the world of magic and folk superstition in American Christianity.What is magic? Where’s the line between prayer and magic? Why did Protestant reformers ban holy water but keep belief in the devil? How did treasure-hunting rituals lead to the rise of Mormonism?YouTube version: https://youtu.be/o9rMy6lde0cTimestamps:00:00 - Coming up00:37 - Intro music01:01 -

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47:50

413 - Heidi White - The Divided Soul: Duty and Desire...

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2025/09/25

In this conversation, I sit down with author and educator Heidi White to discuss her new book, The Divided Soul. We explore the story of the prodigal son, the tension between duty and desire, and how these themes echo through literature, culture, and our own lives. Heidi shares insights from the Bible, classical works, and pop culture, showing that many stories reflect this deep human struggle.YouTube version: https://youtu.be/1LjDeZpSviwBuy Heidi’s book:

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412 - The Age of Self-Esteem

The Symbolic World ·

2025/09/22

This is August's patron video that I decided to make public. In it I explore the modern idea of self-esteem—where it came from, how it shapes our culture, and why it so often leads us into confusion and disorder. I contrast this with the Christian vision of humility, which offers a path to true freedom and joy. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/e__8eVCgjCEPlease consider becoming a patron to get exclusive access to videos like this: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe📖 Let's take our stories

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411 - Dr. Michael Levin & Dr. John Vervaeke - Brave...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/09/20

Dr. Michael Levin is a professor in the Department of Biology at Tufts University and an associate faculty member at the Wyss Institute at Harvard. He directs the Allen Discovery Center at Tufts, where his team integrates biophysics, computational modeling, and behavioral science to study how cellular collectives make decisions during embryogenesis, regeneration, and cancer.Levin’s research centers on diverse forms of intelligence and unconventional embodied minds, bridging conceptual theory,

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410 - Fractals: The World Is Full of Meaning...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/09/12

I’ve spoken about fractals on my channel for many years. In this talk, I explore the topic directly—showing how fractals are a fundamental structure of reality. Understanding these patterns is essential if we want to see the world symbolically and build true fellowship rooted in spirit rather than mere rules.YouTube version: https://youtu.be/S6xHkyhoN20This talk took place at the 2025 Midwestuary conference.Estuary Hub Link: https://www.estuaryhub.com/https://www.southeastuary.com/📖 Let's take our

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26:13

409 - The Strange Symbolism of K-Pop Demon Hunters:...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/09/05

I finally watched K-Pop Demon Hunters after so many of you kept asking about it. In this episode, I explore the strange mix of symbolism: demons, idols, and the way the film deals with shame, music, and attention. There are fascinating elements in the story, but also some deep problems from a symbolic and Christian perspective. Let’s dive in together.WARNING: This episode contains spoilers.YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Rh89J2eAf7o📖 Let's take our stories back. Check out the latest book in the

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408 - Andrew Gould & Michael Diamant - Architecture:...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/08/30

In this conversation I’m joined by Andrew Gould and Michael Diamant to explore the importance of traditional architecture and city planning. We discuss why so much of our built environment feels alienating, how modernism abandoned human proportion and beauty, and why recovering classical forms matters for culture, community, and even our spiritual lives.Michael shares the story of the Architecture Uprising movement across Europe, and Andrew explains how he approaches designing buildings that are

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407 - Heather Pollington - Rapunzel and the Evil Witch

The Symbolic World ·

2025/08/29

📖 RAPUNZEL AND THE EVIL WITCH IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR SALE: https://rapunzelbook.com/Heather Pollington and I are thrilled to share our brand-new storybook with you, 'Rapunzel and the Evil Witch'! Following 'Snow White and the Widow Queen' and 'Jack and the Fallen Giants', this third fairy tale feels like the culmination of our work so far. With this book you’ll begin to notice the different threads connecting across the series. Heather has created stunning illustrations that weave medieval and

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406 - Symbolism Explained: The Fundamental WWII...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/08/19

In this episode, I explore the symbolism of World War II through the imagery of the Axis and the Allies. Beyond politics, these symbols reveal a deeper story about unity and multiplicity—the tension between the “one” and the “many.” I look at how the propaganda and narratives of that time shaped the post-war consensus we still live in today, and why those stories are now reaching their limits. My hope is to help you see how these patterns influence our culture and why finding balance is so

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405 - Fr. Josiah Trenham - Marriage: The Bedrock of...

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2025/08/05

In this episode, Father Josiah Trenham returns to the podcast for us to talk about the profound meaning and cosmic significance of marriage. We explore why marriage is a crucial civilizational cornerstone rooted in divine order, not only from a Christian perspective, but universally in all flourishing societies. We discuss how it compares to and co-exists with monasticism and the meaning of marriage and the wedding ceremony not just as a gate to self-fulfillment and a joyful experience, but also as

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404 - Fr. Stephen De Young - How to Read...

The Symbolic World ·

2025/07/31

Fr. Stephen De Young returns to the channel to explore how we should approach extra-Biblical literature—looking especially at the Book of Jubilees in anticipation of his upcoming Symbolic World course: Jubilees and the Nephilim. We discuss a different, more ancient way of doing theology—through story, ritual, poetry, and image rather than flat modern academic argument. If you’ve ever wondered how texts like Jubilees, Enoch, or the Lives of Adam and Eve connect to Christian theology, this

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403 - Why you might want to watch the new Superman movie

The Symbolic World ·

2025/07/25

In this episode I reflect on the symbolism behind Superman as a figure rooted in American mythology and post-WWII identity. I also discuss the new Superman movie by James Gunn, which actually has an interesting twist that can help us understand not just the superhero archetype, but also the crucial and relevant question of the immigrant or convert.https://youtu.be/RByli5eMoP8Rapunzel and the Evil Witch is coming in August—and you can pre-order it now. If you missed the first 1,000 copies (which sold

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