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The Trial

The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to The Crime Desk now. Visitwww.thecrimedesk.com to become a member. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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25:25

The McCann 'Stalkers' - “I’m not a Liar”

The Trial ·

2025/10/14

Join Caroline and Claire as the jury in Leicester are told for the first time that Julia Wandelt’s DNA was tested and proved she is not Madeleine McCann. In today’s episode we also have the dozens of voice messages and texts she was sending to Kate McCann.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail usthetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us+447796657512(start your message with

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25:38

The McCann 'Stalkers' - The “relentless” stalking of...

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2025/10/10

Join Caroline and Claire as they bring you the latest from the trial of the McCann “stalkers”. In this episode we’ve got the evidence of Kate and Gerry McCann who said the actions of the two women on trial were relentless and distressing. Gerry also said the family still have a glimmer of hope that Madelaine is still alive and Julia Wandelt could have put the investigation at risk. We also have the moment that Julia Wandelt screamed at Kate McCann “why are you doing this to me.” The Trial series

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16:22

The McCann 'Stalkers' - “Emotional Blackmail of the...

The Trial ·

2025/10/07

In this episode Caroline and Claire have the moment the court in Leicester were told two women accused of stalking Madeleine McCann’s family accosted them at the family home. They also joked about riffling through their bins. The prosecution say Julia Wandelt used emotional blackmail to try to convince the family she was Madeleine.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail

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14:14

The McCann 'Stalkers' - “She is not Madeleine”

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2025/10/06

In this episode Caroline and Claire have the opening day of trial of two women accused of stalking the family of Madeleine McCann. Julie Wandelt is accused of pursuing the family by email, call and text claiming to be their missing daughter who was abducted from Portugal in 2007. Karen Sprat is also accused of adopting her claims “with gusto”. Today as the case began Julia Wandelt broke down into loud sobs as the jury were told she was categorically “not Madeleine.”The Trial series uses actors and

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46:27

Lucy Letby: Conviction

The Trial ·

2025/09/26

In this episode Liz and Caroline speak to Danny Bogado, the director of a new Channel 4 documentary called Conviction: The Lucy Letby Case. They discuss why he wanted to make a film on the case, how he recruited contributors and why he feels it is important that audiences make up their own minds about her guilt or innocence.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail

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5:44

Lucy Letby’s Expert Witness

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2025/09/19

Dr Mike Hall was Lucy’s Letby’s key expert witness. But he was never called to give evidence at either of her trials. Caroline and Liz now ask him why. Search: The Trial of Lucy Letby: The InquiryThe Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail usthetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us+447796657512(start your message with ‘Trial’)A Daily Mail production.Seriously Popular. Hosted on

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50:44

High School Stabbing: The Intermediary

The Trial ·

2025/08/12

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you an exclusive interview with the woman who acted as the intermediary for the boy convicted of murdering Harvey Willgoose. Lucy Swindlehurst reveals the influence she had on the way the trial was conducted, with her colleague Paula Backen giving insight into how intemediaries operate in the court system.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to The Crime Desk

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34:32

High School Stabbing: Guilty

The Trial ·

2025/08/08

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the verdict from Sheffield Crown Court - guilty. The 15-year-old defendant was convicted following 14 hours 34 minutes of deliberation by a majority of 11 to one. The episode also features an exclusive interview with Harvey’s mother Caroline.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to The Crime Desk now. Visitwww.thecrimedesk.com to become a member.A Daily Mail

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6:47

High School Stabbing: Over to the Jury

The Trial ·

2025/08/05

The jury in the trial of the killer of Harvey Willgoose are now considering their verdict. They’ve heard all of the evidence and the decision on whether the 15 year old boy on trial is guilty of murder or manslaughter now rests with them. In this episode Caroline and Jack have the final instructions the judge gave them before she told them to start their deliberations.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show,

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40:22

High School Stabbing: ‘There was a name’

The Trial ·

2025/08/01

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing arguments from the defence and prosecution before the jury retire to consider their verdicts. Prosecutor Richard Thyne KC said the defendant did not suffer from a loss of self-control when he stabbed Harvey Willgoose, but displayed purposeful and controlled aggression as an act of retribution. Gul Nawaz Hussain KC, for the defence, said the evidence clearly showed the defendant was in intense fear in the weeks leading up to the attack - and

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23:49

High School Stabbing: ‘You got worked up in rage’

The Trial ·

2025/07/29

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the cross-examination of the boy accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose. He is questioned about the witness accounts of teachers and pupils who saw him acting like he had a knife before the stabbing and the prosecution put its case to him - that he did not lose control when he killed Harvey, but got worked up into a rage.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to

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26:16

High School Stabbing: Anatomy of a Stabbing

The Trial ·

2025/07/25

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the moment the boy accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose describes the fatal stabbing. He claims he only pulled out a knife because he was scared he would get stabbed himself and told a jury he now has no memory of the moment he dealt the deadly blow.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to The Crime Desk now. Visitwww.thecrimedesk.com to become a member.A

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22:33

High School Stabbing: ‘I’ve got a bad feeling about...

The Trial ·

2025/07/22

In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the latest evidence of the boy accused of murdering 15-year-old old Harvey Willgoose, as he tells the court he bought the “scary-looking” knife used in the attack because he was worried about being jumped. He also claimed that Harvey had threatened to stab him on the morning of the killing and described how he had not wanted to back down in a recent social media argument because he was afraid of being called a coward. For ad-free listening to The Trial,

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29:25

High School Stabbing: ‘I’m upset all the time’

The Trial ·

2025/07/18

For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to The Crime Desk now. Visitwww.thecrimedesk.com to become a member.A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular.Go toenteromed.co.ukand use codeTRAVEL30 at checkout, for an exclusive 30% discount on EnterosgelTraveller's Diarrhoea Relief. Drug-free, all-in-one relief, for the whole family. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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28:03

High School Stabbing: ‘It was me or him’

The Trial ·

2025/07/15

In this episode Caroline and Jack have what the teenage boy on trial said in the moments after he stabbed Harvey Willgoose.He told police he had the knife for his own protection because he thought he was going to get jumped. He said he was protecting himself.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to The Crime Desk now. Visitwww.thecrimedesk.com to become a member.A Daily Mail Production. Seriously

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41:05

The Trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon: The...

The Trial ·

2025/07/14

In January 2023, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon went on the run with their newborn baby Victoria. After a nationwide hunt, the couple were found. Two days later, so was the body of Victoria.Last year a jury found the pair guilty of concealing the birth of a child and perverting the course of justice. However, unable to reach a verdict on the charge of manslaughter, the jury was discharged. Constance Marten and Mark Gordon have faced a retrial on this charge, and today, we finally have the

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Trailer: The Verdict of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon

The Trial ·

2025/07/14

In January 2023, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon went on the run with their newborn baby Victoria. After a nationwide hunt, the couple were found. Two days later, so was the body of Victoria.Last year a jury found the pair guilty of concealing the birth of a child and perverting the course of justice. However, unable to reach a verdict on the charge of manslaughter, the jury was discharged. Constance Marten and Mark Gordon have faced a retrial on this charge, and today, Caroline and Jack can

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30:17

'I can’t control it’

The Trial ·

2025/07/11

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the evidence of several teachers who have described the horrifying moment they found 15-year-old Harvey Willgoose had been fatally injured in the school courtyard. The trial also heard that the boy accused of murdering him had a history of being bullied over a medical issue and that he told the headteacher he only brought a knife to school that day because he was scared for his safety.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every

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20:37

High School Stabbing: ‘He carried knives’

The Trial ·

2025/07/08

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the first of the pupils to give evidence at the trial of the teenager accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose at a school in Sheffield. One friend of Harvey's told police that the defendant was known to bring weapons into school - and claimed the boy had once asked him to feel the outline of an axe hidden in his trousers.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to

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22:50

High School Stabbing: “I lost it”

The Trial ·

2025/07/04

In this episode Caroline and Jack hear from the teachers at the school where Harvey Willgoose was killed. He was described as a cheeky pupil who never crossed the line and in the hours before he died, he joked that nobody would stab him. The pupil from the same school accused of his murder says he lost control after suffering long-term bullying, violence and poor treatment.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show,

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