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The Trial

The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to The Crime Desk now. Visitwww.thecrimedesk.com to become a member. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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27:20

Driven to Death? - Do No Harm

The Trial ·

2026/02/27

In this episode Caroline and Nick have the medical evidence from Tarryn Baird’s GP who she saw or spoke to over 100 times in two years. The notes showed she reported repeated beatings, assaults with a rope and rape at the hands of her husband, Christopher Trybus. Time and time again she was urged to end the relationship, but she said she was terrified he would find her, and it was more dangerous to leave than to stay. He argues the allegations are lies, and during one month when he’d allegedly

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8:32

Trial Update: Driven To Death? - The Defence Case -...

The Trial ·

2026/02/25

In this special update episode Caroline and Nick have an insight into what Christopher Trybus will say in his defence in this trial. He claims his wife made up allegations of domestic violence and coercive control, and far from abusing Tarryn Baird he cherished her deeply. He will also say her death was not a deliberate suicide attempt, but a cry for help which went wrong. Subscribe viathecrimedesk.comFollow us on TikTok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@dailymail.comWhatsApp us +447796657512 (start

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22:16

Driven To Death? - I Am Now Free

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2026/02/24

Was a woman driven to kill herself after being allegedly abused by her husband? That is the question at the centre of a landmark trial which Caroline and Nick will be covering in a new Trial UK series.In this episode we hear that Tarryn Baird was 34 when she was found hanged in her garage - the prosecution say she killed herself because she was desperate to escape the violent, controlling abuse her husband subjected her to - and that makes him responsible for her death.Christopher Trybus is facing

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10:30

EXCLUSIVE TRAILER: Lucy Letby - Debunking Her Expert...

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2026/02/24

In February last year Lucy Letby’s new defence team told a press conference there was no medical evidence of air embolism in the babies she murdered and attacked. Professor Shoo Lee said he had studied all the literature to make his claim.But today we hear his claim was wrong. And the literature to prove it was there all the time.In this episode, Neonatologist Professor Paul Clark explains why what Lucy Letby’s expert panel said is wrong. Using old and new case studies, he debunks what is currently

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55:25

The Trial of Social Media

The Trial ·

2026/02/20

In this episode Caroline and Liz get an insight from a lawyer with a ringside seat of the moment this week when Meta boss Mark Zuckerberg walked into a US courtroom to face the users of his platform who say using social media ruined their lives. They claim he knew the technology was addictive and it was part of his business model to make money at the expense of the mental health of a generation of young people. The case is likely to have huge implications in the UK so we also get the thoughts of

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37:35

The Nursery Paedophile

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2026/02/13

Depraved, perverted and wicked - the words used to describe Vincent Chan as he was sentenced to 18 years in prison for abusing the children he was caring for. In this episode Caroline and Ryan have the details of how he used his job working in a nursery and in a school in London to prey on defenceless toddlers and children. He sexually assaulted them and he filmed it - storing the videos and images in files at his home. He also targeted other children and adults too - using a secret camera to record

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49:29

Cold Case Killer - A Police Blunder To Beggar Belief

The Trial ·

2026/02/06

In this episode Caroline and Jack reveal the catalogue of police blunders which may have left the serial killer Steve Wright free to murder five women in Ipswich and raises questions about whether his latest victim, Vicky Hall, could have been saved too. A judge demanded today that Suffolk Police investigate what went wrong, after it emerged police ignored key evidence from another woman who reported Steve Wright tried to kidnap her the night before he succeeded in abducting and murdering

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36:43

Cold Case Killer - How Many More?

The Trial ·

2026/02/03

In this episode Caroline and Jack have an exclusive interview with Criminologist Professor David Wilson. In 2008 he predicted that serial killer Steve Wright had murdered Vicky Hall years before. She was aged just 17 when she was kidnapped and murdered in 1999. It took Wright 18 years but yesterday at the Old Bailey he finally admitted it.Today we chat to David about why he was so sure Steve Wright had killed before and if there might be more victims.The Trial series uses actors and some voices

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34:15

Cold Case Killer - 20 Years On, A Sixth Victim Confirmed

The Trial ·

2026/02/02

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the dramatic first day of the trial of serial killer Steve Wright, also known as the Suffolk Strangler, for a cold case murder in 1999. Wright was convicted of murdering five women in Ipswich in 2006 and today he pleaded guilty to the kidnap and murder of 17-year-old Victoria Wood and the attempted kidnap of another woman seven years earlier. It is the first time he has ever admitted to any of his killings. The episode features all the latest from court

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22:10

Lucy Letby - More Legal Questions

The Trial ·

2026/01/22

In this episode Caroline and Liz interview senior barrister Tim Owen KC about the news that Lucy Letby will not be facing more charges. We also have an insight into the latest documentary on her case which will be on Netflix on Feb 4.Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’)Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz HullEditor: John RogersCreative Director: Caroline CheethamProduction Manager: Vittoria CecchiniA

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45:22

Lucy Letby - Project Countess

The Trial ·

2026/01/21

In this episode Caroline and Liz sit down with Dr Susan Gilby in her first interview since she was awarded £1.4 million from the NHS. Dr Gilby was appointed CEO of the Countess of Chester Hospital just after Lucy Letby was arrested, but she was then forced to resign. And then she discovered a secret plot named Project Countess had been set up to get rid of her. It's an extraordinary interview about whistleblowing, conspiracy and the shocking waste of tax payers money.Follow us on Tiktok

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25:53

Lucy Letby - No More Charges

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2026/01/20

In this emergency episode Caroline and Liz have the news that Lucy Letby will not be charged with more offences. While detectives felt there was enough evidence to charge her with 11 offences - two of murder and nine of attempted murder, the CPS disagreed. So what does it mean?Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrimeEmail us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukWhatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’)Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz HullProducer: Sam MorrisEditor: Alex GrahamCreative

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35:48

The Liverpool Parade - Rampage at the parade

The Trial ·

2025/12/16

In this episode Caroline and Liz bring you the sentence of Paul Doyle and play for the first time some of the shocking dashcam footage that sealed his fate. They detail how he spent time in jail as a much younger man for a serious violent offence and how his reputation now lies in tatters.They also speak to a mother and her son, who were caught up in the carnage, and who helped rescue fans trapped beneath Paul Doyle’s Ford Galaxy.And they bring you an interview with hero Dan Barr, the former soldier

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40:54

The Liverpool Parade - Two Minutes of Carnage

The Trial ·

2025/12/15

In this episode Caroline and Liz reveal the reason Paul Doyle changed his pleas to guilty - his own dashcam footage. The footage was played in court today and it captured the crucial 2 minutes when he rammed his car into 134 people. Some bounced off his bonnet while others were dragged under the wheels. Many of his victims were in court and they gasped as they saw the carnage he inflicted in just a few seconds.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as

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30:24

The Liverpool Parade - Why did he do it?

The Trial ·

2025/12/12

Why did Paul Doyle lose control and smash his car into dozens of people as they celebrated Liverpool FC’s league cup win? In this episode, ahead of his sentencing hearing next week Caroline and Liz sit down with Criminologist and former Prison Governor Professor David Wilson who has a possible explanation.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail

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33:03

Trial Special: "Not in My Name"

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2025/12/08

In this third special episode about Government plans to scrap thousands of jury trials Caroline and Liz chat to a survivor of child sexual abuse. Vicki Crawford spent years believing she was culpable for the abuse she suffered at the hands of her sister's older boyfriend when she was just 14, and when she finally did seek justice decades later her experience was one of inefficiency, push back and delay. But despite this, she told us, the jury system is a fundamental right in a democratic system and

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36:56

Trial Special: The Verdict - on jury trial reform

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2025/12/03

After David Lammy yesterday unveiled his proposals to scrap thousands of jury trials Caroline and Liz have the verdict from one of the country’s top barristers. Chris Henley KC said the Justice Secretary’s plans showed “contempt for ordinary people.” He said the issues in the court system which cause unacceptable delays are “embarrassing” but the jury system was not one of the problems. He also said trust in the justice system would be undermined.The Trial series uses actors and some voices

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42:07

Trial Special: Should jury trials be scrapped?

The Trial ·

2025/12/01

Should juries be scrapped? In this special bonusepisode Caroline and Liz investigate leaked plans from the justice secretary to abolish jury trials for the majority of cases. It would be a fundamental change to our justice system. And it’s not gone down well.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.Follow us on instagram @thetrialpodEmail usthetrial@dailymail.comWhatsapp us+447796657512(start your message with

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35:34

The Liverpool Parade - Road Rage

The Trial ·

2025/11/26

In this episode Caroline and Liz have the reason football fans were knocked down “like skittles” by a former marine. It was road rage. Paul Doyle was driving through the city as dozens of people celebrated Liverpool FCs League title, but he grew agitated that families wouldn’t get out of his way and he ploughed into them in his Ford Galaxy. Today as he dramatically changed his pleas to guilty we have all the details from the court.The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their

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42:20

The McCann 'Stalkers' - “Why?”

The Trial ·

2025/11/07

Guilty of harassment but Not Guilty of stalking. That’s the jury’s verdict today on Julia Wandelt’s “relentless” pursuit of the parents of Madeleine McCann. It means she could soon be released from prison and likely deported back to Poland. In this episode Caroline and Claire have all the reactions from the court, including how the McCanns said they hoped she can now get the care and support she needs. Plus we have an interview with Julia Wandelt’s father who told us how damaged she was after she

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