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The Work Of Wrestling

Professional wrestling is an art. The Work of Wrestling is dedicated to exploring that simple truth. Produced & hosted by Tim Kail.

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WOW - EP432 - The Final Straw

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/12/22

Tim Kail reacts to Mick Foley severing ties with WWE in the wake of President Trump's disparaging remarks on Rob Reiner. Tim reads Mick's original social media post on the matter, offers up some thoughts of his own, and then shares a pivotal decision he's made about what he's willing to cover in pro-wrestling in 2026.

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I Will Not Talk About Backstage Segments For One Year

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/12/16

I've talked about my hatred of backstage segments for twenty years (ten of those on my podcast). They look terrible, they elicit terrible performances, and they are conceptually dubious. Over the past decade I've attempted myriad ways to dissect them and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt they're an antiquated, character-killing device that does nothing but get wrestlers "under". I've talked and written so much about them that it's become something of an inside joke with my listeners

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WOW - EP431 - Farewell John Cena w/Al Monelli

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/12/15

Host Tim Kail is joined by longtime friend and fan-favorite guest Alexander Monelli to discuss John Cena's last match at Saturday Night's Main Event. First, Tim & Al unload on annoying pro-wrestling fans for inserting themselves into Cena's final moments. Then they discuss Cena's greatest promos and matches. Finally, they examine what John Cena and the other greatest of all-time have in common. Follow Al on social media @monellifilms and subscribe to his YouTube channel:

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WOW - EP430 - 2025

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/12/12

For this bonus episode of The Work Of Wrestling podcast, host Tim Kail reflects upon 2025. Topics include John Cena's last match, staying healthy, becoming a responsible adult, and his changing priorities with the podcast.

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WOW - EP429 - "This company died yesterday..."

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/12/08

This week on The Work Of Wrestling podcast host Tim Kail is joined by friend and fellow pro-wrestling fan John Macy to discuss the massive sale of WB to Netflix. They examine the implications of the deal on AEW's longterm future. They also discuss John's disappointment with The Smashing Machine, John Cena's heel run, and more. Subscribe to John's The B-Team Podcast. Follow Tim @WorkOfWrestling on social media.

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To Buy-In Or Not To Buy-In, That Is The Question

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/12/05

For months I've been making the argument that people should stop watching WWE and definitely stop paying for their over-priced PLEs (if they find the product unsatisfactory). $30/month for ESPN Unlimited remains a prickly price point for me - I just can't justify it. That said, I came very close to taking the plunge this past weekend about an hour before Survivor Series: War Games. I held steady though, and I'm glad I did because it doesn't seem like I missed anything too spectacular. For the first

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56:26

WOW - EP428 - Time: Part II

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/12/01

Work of Wrestling host Tim Kail discusses the healing qualities of time, AEW Dynamite, the effectiveness of a moral binary in storytelling, whether or not a moral binary works in society, and what he hopes to accomplish as he reaches middle-age. Follow on social media @WorkOfWrestling and give the podcast a five star rating and review in Apple Podcasts!

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58:17

WOW - EP427 - AEW Full Gear Review (2025)

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/11/24

This week WOW host, Tim Kail, reviews AEW's latest pay-per-view, Full Gear.

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WOW - EP426 - This Too Shall Pass

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/11/17

Trigger Warning - this episode contains discussion of thoughts of suicide, depression, and mental illness. Tim Kail shares a story he's been holding onto for years. What happened to Tim when he stumbled upon a podcast that "lambasted" him for an article he's written? How did he process it and attempt to maintain control of the situation (and his emotions). Listen to this frank, personal story to find out.

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Enlightenment In I Am Santa Claus

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/11/15

"Helping children be better is relatively easy. Fixing broken adults is a lot harder." With these words, Rob Figley, the "Swinging Santa", gets at the heart of what I Am Santa Claus is all about. The film chronicles the year of five men who perform the beloved mythological holiday hero, Santa Claus, during the Christmas season. Their lives revolve around this eagerly anticipated time of year, those precious two months essential to their financial and emotional livelihoods. With honesty and respect

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How To Treat The Ruthless Depression Era

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/11/11

WWE is creatively stagnant. A lack of interesting characters, a non-existant mid-card, prescriptive weekly television, increasing ticket prices, and more frequent Saudi-shows has inspired many fans to dub this the "Ruthless Depression" era. While meant partially as a joke, the popularity of the phrase/meme is indicative of where WWE is at today. Every Monday begins with the same twenty minute promo. Every episode features poorly filmed and poorly acted backstage segments. The mid-card is a cast

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WOW - EP425 - Bonus Q&A

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/11/10

Your ears do not deceive you - this is a special BONUS episode of The Work Of Wrestling podcast. You sent in more questions so Tim answers them. Why doesn't he talk about where he works? What role can house shows and indie wrestling play in our lives as wrestling fans? Has Tim ever tried to write for WWE? Learn the answers to all these questions and more! Follow on the social media gimmicks @WorkOfWrestling.

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WOW - EP424 - Wiseman's Question

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/11/10

This week host Tim Kail asked for your questions. One of them was so good he had to devote an entire episode to it. Tim articulates his frustrations with WWE and AEW, pondering whether there will ever be fundamental changes to the way fans relate to and understand the art of professional wrestling. Share this episode with a friend, post it on your social media, and spread the word. Follow on the social media gimmicks @WorkOfWrestling, and give the podcast a five star rating and review in Apple

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WOW - EP423 - A Conversation

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/11/03

This week Tim Kail covers not watching WWE, falling back in love with AEW, updating The Work Of Wrestling website, and why he'd rather President Trump not attend John Cena's last match.

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WOW - EP422 - Survey Results!

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/10/27

Tim Kail lifts the hood on The Work Of Wrestling podcast and gives you a glimpse inside by sharing the results of the latest WOW survey! How do you feel about the format of the latest episodes? How does Tim make you feel? Why haven't you submitted your story?! Would you be upset if Tim didn't review The Royal Rumble or WrestleMania? All this and more in a fun episode you're sure to enjoy.

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The Architects of the Attitude Era

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/10/23

The Attitude Era wasn't great because it was raunchy, sleazy, blood-soaked, extreme, and testosterone-fueled. In fact, all those segments, matches, and angles from The Attitude Era that weren't good were the ones that could be easily reduced to a set of trendy adjectives. The assertion many modern professional wrestling fans make is that The Attitude Era was "so much better" than today's TV-PG Era, without offering a worthwhile explanation as to why. This noisy group of armchair critics likes to

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Divest From WWE

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/10/23

I am divesting from WWE. What does that mean exactly? It means I refuse to buy merch or tickets to shows. I don't watch RAW, NXT, nor SmackDown, and I do not subscribe to ESPN Unlimited. I don't even "put RAW on in the background" because I don't want to give them my view. More than these practical choices, I'm electing to stop caring about WWE. I'm disentangling my concearns as a wrestling fan from the very idea of WWE. They are not the only game in town. There's plenty of wrestling elsewhere

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WOW - EP421 - AEW Wrestle Dream Review

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/10/20

Host Tim Kail reviews AEW's latest pay-per-view, Wrestle Dream.

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WOW - EP420 - The Underground

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/10/13

This week Tim Kail discusses the actual worth of WWE, why he believes they've swindled Netflix, and what we can do to push back against the darkness of our times.

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Art-ificial Intelligence and Professional Wrestling

The Work Of Wrestling ·

2025/10/10

NOTE: THE FOLLOWING IS A TRANSCRIPT OF EPISODE OF EP417 What is artificial intelligence? To have a productive discussion about it, we must first define it. Artificial intelligence (AI) is the ability of machines or computer systems to perform tasks that typically require human intelligence, such as learning, reasoning, problem-solving, perception, and decision-making. AI involves creating intelligent systems that can adapt, learn from data, and act to achieve specific goals, often by simulating

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