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Ball and Order

Ball & Order is a weekly podcast where self-proclaimed sports historians/Attorneys Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange debate sports and tell historical sports stories. A Sports Drink podcast. Subscribe to our free newsletter: ballandorder.substack.com. ballandorder.substack.com

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89:17

Ep. 85: Donovan Mitchell Trade Destinations & Most...

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2022/07/19

THE BALL AND ORDER PODCAST RETURNS! Trade rumors about Donovan Mitchell, the DeAndre Ayton Saga, Kevin Durant’s winding path to somewhere else, and a confusing NBA offseason have brought Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange out of their podcast holes (if you ignore the show two weeks ago). They discuss all of those subjects plus debate which NBA teams have actually improved this offseason. You can listen to the podcast on any podcast app or watch it (in two parts) on YouTube. Ball and Order is a free

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52:29

Cleaning Up Cat Barf (Atlanta Hawks and Boston Celtics)

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2021/11/16

The Atlanta Hawks and Boston Celtics came into this season with high expectations but are currently not close to reaching them. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange try to figure out and provide potential solutions for Trae Young’s group and Jayson Tatum’s team. They also get into Cole Anthony’s magical season so far, the actually good Washington Wizards, and the perpetually horrendous Minnesota Timberwolves. Show Outline* Atlanta Hawks (1:27-21:21)* The defense is an abomination* Did the playoffs give us a

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63:51

Due For A Clunker (Miami Heat, Chicago Bulls, New...

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2021/11/05

It was 1997 in the NBA for a minute! The Miami Heat, Chicago Bulls and New York Knicks were atop the Eastern Conference as they were 24 years ago. However, they have all lost games and face serious questions going forward. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange break down the good and bad for all three teams as well as project where they may end up in 2021. Subscribe to our newsletter, ballandorder.substack.com! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access

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54:58

NBA Teams Trending Up Towards Mediocrity

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2021/10/29

The Washington Wizards, Sacramento Kings, Cleveland Cavaliers and the Minnesota Timberwolves have gotten out to hot starts, but can they sustain it? Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange try to answer that question for all four teams. They also discuss why this Wizards team feels different (0:53), the Kings’s interesting backcourt (18:44), Ricky Rubio’s stabilizing play (33:47), and Anthony Edwards’s leadership (42:29). This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get

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53:42

SMASH THAT NBA PANIC BUTTON

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2021/10/21

Gabe and Alex are back and doing an NBA podcast now instead of sports history. The NBA is also back and, after one game, we’re ready to smash that panic button for at least one team: the Los Angeles Lakers! We explain why we think the Lakers will underperform, how Russell Westbrook affects their ceiling, and how washed the rest of Lakers are. They also discuss the messy Brooklyn Nets, whether Jaylen Brown is better than Jayson Tatum and who plays for the San Antonio Spurs. *THERE WILL BE NO

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53:42

SMASH THAT NBA PANIC BUTTON

Ball and Order ·

2021/10/21

Gabe and Alex are back and doing an NBA podcast now instead of sports history. The NBA is also back and, after one game, we’re ready to smash that panic button for at least one team: the Los Angeles Lakers! We explain why we think the Lakers will underperform, how Russell Westbrook affects their ceiling, and how washed the rest of Lakers are. They also discuss the Brooklyn Nets, Chris Duarte, Jaylen Brown and the San Antonio Spurs.Show Outline * Who is hitting the panic button* Los Angeles Lakers *

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48:58

Do NFL Teams Actually Watch College Football?

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2021/04/28

The history of the NFL Draft is litterred with examples of NFL scouts simply not watching college football including the Chicago Bears taking Mitch Tribusky over Patrick Mahomes, Philip Buchanon over Ed Reed, Christian Hackenberg over Dak Prescott. Zach Wilson, Mac Jones or Trey Jones going ahead of Justin Fields might join that list. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange breakdown the 2021 NFL draft and how NFL teams are failing in their evaluation of top talent.See Privacy Policy at

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Do NFL Teams Actually Watch College Football?

Ball and Order ·

2021/04/28

The history of the NFL Draft is litterred with examples of NFL scouts simply not watching college football including the Chicago Bears taking Mitch Tribusky over Patrick Mahomes, Philip Buchanon over Ed Reed, Christian Hackenberg over Dak Prescott. Zach Wilson, Mac Jones or Trey Jones going ahead of Justin Fields might join that list. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange breakdown the 2021 NFL draft and how NFL teams are failing in their evaluation of top talent. This is a public episode. If you would like

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54:47

NBA Trade Machine Roulette

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2021/03/23

The NBA Trade Deadline is on Thursday and we are making trades that you have never thought of. Gabe and Alex play a game they invented where they spin the wheel, get two random NBA teams, and agree to a reasonable trade between the teams. The Utah Jazz, Houston Rockets, Philadelphia 76ers, Charlotte Hornets, Orlando Magic, Sacramento Kings, LA Clippers, and Memphis Grizzlies all make moves with the hosts acting as their general managers.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California

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53:14

ESPN's John Gasaway on Miracles on the Hardwood

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2021/03/16

John Gasaway of ESPN's Bubble Watch joins Gabe to talk about his new book: Miracles on the Hardwood. The book talks about the concept of "Catholic College Basketball." In it, John details how Catholic schools have impacted the world of college basketball and its most legendary moments. We talked about John Thompson and Georgetown, Hank Gathers and Gonzaga's amazing run in 2021 as we head into March Madness. You can buy the book here:

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71:38

2016 NBA Regular Season: Steph Curry Shocks the...

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2021/03/03

In February 2016, Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors had the best record ever after 57 games (52-5) and were on their way to the best regular season in NBA history. Then, they ran into a Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and the Oklahoma City Thunder. The teams played one of the best regular season games ever that ended with Curry hitting the signature shot of his career. Gabe and Alex breakdown the ridiculous end of the game and what it meant for the NBA. Follow us on twitter and tik tok:

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74:52

Talking Basketball Cards with Jason Howarth of Panini...

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2021/02/24

With the sports card collecting blowing up, Gabe spoke with Panini America’s VP of Marketing Jason Howarth about all things trading cards. They talked about how they collected sports cards as kids, the business of trading cards, the new WNBA Prizm collection including Sabrina Ionescu's rookie card, NBA Top Shot, blockchain collecting, and Kobe Bryant’s impact on the trading card world. It was a fun chat and you can keep up with all of the cool stuff Panini does on their website, instagram

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74:55

NBA All-Time Draft

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2021/02/18

We decided to draft a team of 10 players from across NBA history and create our perfect teams. The draft had a snake format and our first five picks had to be starters. We also had to pick a player from each of the major NBA decades (1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s), but had the additional limit that we could only select a maximum of two players from each decade. Some of you will be mad about the results. Subscribe to our newsletter: ballandorder.substack.com. See Privacy Policy at

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76:15

Bill Walton vs Dr. J (1977 NBA Finals Game 6)

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2021/02/11

The NBA in 1977 was very different than it is now. The ABA had just merged into the league, Finals games were getting bumped for non-major golf tournaments and several players called to be doctors, pinballs or aliens. In the first season since the merger, Bill Walton brought his Portland Trail Blazers to the NBA Finals against Julius Erving (aka Dr. J aka The Doctor aka Doctor Jota) and his Philadelphia Sixers. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange breakdown the Blazers' victory to win the franchise's first

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58:43

NBA History Cold Calls II

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2021/02/04

Time for another edition of NBA history cold calls. Gabe and Alex ask each other questions about NBA history without much/any preparation. They talk about Gilbert Arenas’s time with the Orlando Magic (and as an off-Broadway actor), Dominque Wilkins, dumb basketball terms like “two-way players,” NBA Top Shot stonks, Dwyane Wade going to Denver in 2016 and why Elgin Baylor could win a title nowadays. Gabe is also opening up packs of NBA cards and randomly interjecting them into the podcast. Subscribe

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55:18

Luka v. Giannis: Who would you rather build around?

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2021/01/28

Luka Doncic and Giannis Antetokounmpo are two of the most exciting young players in the NBA history. They are already elite players. But in this structured debate, Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange are forced to pick only one of these two stars. Alex is trying to prove the following resolution: Luka is a better player to build a championship team around over the next five years than Giannis. Gabe tries to disprove the resolution. Subscribe to our free newsletter: ballandorder.substack.com. See Privacy

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71:28

Durant, Westbrook and Harden vs Kobe (2012 NBA...

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2021/01/21

With Kevin Durant and James Harden getting back together in Brooklyn, it felt like a good time to revisit their biggest triumph in Oklahoma City with Russell Westbrook: making it to the 2012 NBA Finals. The Thunder went up 3-1 en route to a gentleman's sweep of Kobe Bryant's Lakers. This game also featured Derek Fisher, Kendrick Perkins, Steve Kerr, Craig Sager and Ramon Sessions. Sessions had the best performance of anybody in that group. Check out our substack for more:

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59:51

2015 Sugar Bowl Ohio State vs Alabama (and Live Coup...

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2021/01/07

Ohio State and Alabama are set to meet in the College Football Playoff Championship, so we revisited their last matchup in the 2015 Sugar Bowl in the first College Football Playoff. Ezekiel Elliott’s 85-yard run through the Heart of the South is what everyone remembers from this game, but so much more memorable stuff happened before that. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange talked about all of it, from JK Scott’s amazing punting performance to Evan Spencer’s uniquely perfect game. They also breakdown how

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90:06

2004 NBA Christmas: Kobe vs Shaq

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2020/12/22

NBA basketball on Christmas Day is a 73-year old tradition with many amazing matchups throughout history. Very few, if any, of Christmas Day games have had as much hype as the 2004 matchup between Kobe Bryant's Los Angeles Lakers and Shaquille O'neal's Miami Heat after their very public breakup. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange break down all of the hype around this game, what happened in the game itself, what it meant for Dwyane Wade's career and how we feel about Kobe as we head to our first Christmas

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62:48

Russell Westbrook And The Most Depressing Trades in...

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2020/12/15

Russell Westbrook is on the move for the second time since his MVP season. Only one other NBA MVP has ever been traded twice after winning MVP (Moses Malone) and none have ever been traded for as interesting of a return (John Wall and a mediocre first-round pick). Gabe and Alex get into historical comparisons to the Westbrook-Wall trade, the current state of the Houston Rockets and other depressing trades in NBA history. Gilbert Arenas-for-Rashard Lewis is obviously mentioned, as is the

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