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Burning Platforms

Per Capita Australia

Welcome to Burning Platforms: De-Coding the Power and Politics of Big Tech. Join Peter Lewis, Lizzie O’Shea (Digital Rights Watch), Dan Stinton (HealthEngine CEO), and guests, fortnightly for analysis of the politics of technology from some of Australia’s leading digital campaigners and industry experts. Brought to you by the Centre of the Public Square - an initiative of Per Capita.

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45:24

Open Season with Simon Kriss

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2026/10/06

As Open AI apologises to Australia the CEO of Sovereign AI takes us through the relative merits of open weight, open source and closed AI models.Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinong and Pert Capita’s peter Lewis also discuss the downsides of live-streaming amateur basketball Anthropic’s consultations with God and the rapid release of consumer agents For show notes go to Burning Platforms on substack -

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46:05

Rearview Mirror with Matt Finch

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2026/09/30

As Australia confronts the Open AI hack on Medicare we are joined by an expert in strategic foresight to explore how we can confront the AI revolution with the benefit of hindsight.Panellists Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, ABC national AI reporter Cam Wilson and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: whether AI models can get drunk is it time for an AI Pause? and Audrey Tang’s call for a citizen jury to guide AI For show notes go to Burning Platforms on substack -

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48:17

Tame Your Feed with Agata Stepnik

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2026/09/22

The Sydney University scholar explains how people can train their algorithms to get a better online experience and what it means to the Digital Duty of Care.Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: Frontier Tech’s global reckoning Open AI’s massive content heist and the Australian bros building a global slop empire For cuts and curios from this week’s show go to Burning Platforms on Substack

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46:19

Care Package with Sarah Davies

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2026/09/14

The CEO of the Alannah and Madeline Foundation gives her verdict on the government’s new Digital Duty of care laws.Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: the AI hyperscaler’ cry for help Apple’s creepy new release and the surveillance legacy of 9/11. For show notes go to https://burningplatforms.substack.com/

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51:23

Making Sausages with Kate Chaney

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2026/09/09

The independent MP on her community-driven plan for AI, working with government from the cross-bench and pushing the pace of reform.Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: GetUp’s big Palantir win Rogue AI latest salvo and the Digital Duty of Care laws For show notes go to: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/

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49:16

Perv Glass Half Full with Ed Santow

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2026/09/02

As privacy reforms gather momentum, the co-director of the Human Technology Institute walks us through the proposed changes and their implications for the digital world. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: Meta’s mega $18 billion legal settlement for harming children Hugging Face’s AI agents mutiny And the hidden cost of the AUKUS treaty For show notes go to:

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49:40

Duty of Care with Zoe Hawkins

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2026/08/26

The co-founder of the Tech Policy Design Centre on the development of new laws to hold tech companies to account for the harms of their products.Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also dig into: The new salt mines of AI Australia’s pitch for AI sovereignty and ARIA’s purge of slop from the music charts For show notes go to: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/

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45:48

Heaps Normal with Nicholas Davis

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2026/08/19

The co-founder of the Human Technology lays down his megapixel provocation and challenges us to stop thinking about AI as being so different that we can’t control it.Panellists Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, ABC National AI Reporter Cam Wilson and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss Can Automated Decision Making work for the people? Is the Social Media Ban making things worse? Is surveillance-busting ‘adversarial fashion’ the new black? For show notes go

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50:21

Mind Craft with Dr Miah Hammond-Errey

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2026/08/12

The national security expert on the strategic risks of cognitive readiness and information is the new theatre of conflict.Panellists Australian Writers Guild CEO Claire Pullen, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also discuss: Pornography as harbinger of digital doom Mark Zuckerburg’s values-free ‘Encyclical’ Australia’s nascent Digital Duty of Care. For show notes go to: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/

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50:11

Roll Your Own with Beth Noveck

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2026/08/05

The author of 'Reboot: AI and the Race to Save Democracy' on how citizens must seize new technology to ensure it works for them.Regular panelists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O'Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita's Peter Lewis also discuss Anthropic's rare book-breaking binge Backlash over the surveillance of open models How to regulate perv glasses For show notes and further discussion go to: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/

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60:24

Fair AI at the ALP Conference 2026 - Burning...

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2026/08/03

Burning Platforms is back for another live show, this time recorded at the 2026 ALP Conference in Adelaide where we launched the "FairAI Initiative" with Digital Rights Watch chair Lizzie O’Shea, Human technology Institute co-director Ed Santow and Senator Tony Sheldon. Join the Burning Platforms for show notes, resources, and regular updates from the Big Tech Policy space: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/ For more on the Centre of the Public Square and it's research into AI policy, check

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81:06

Believe it or not: Navigating the Misinformation Age...

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2026/07/29

In a world of relative facts and filter bubbles how do we build a common base of reality to anchor democracy?Burning Platforms will bring themes from the ABC series ‘A Matter of Facts’ to life in a fun and interactive live event that will challenge you to pick the truth from the lies. Featuring: Hamish Macdonald, award-winning journalist Lizzie O’Shea, Co-founder and Chair of Digital Rights Watch Jess Scully, Executive Director of RadicalXChange Emma McDonald, Media Lawyer, policy,

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62:41

The Palantir Primer

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2026/07/07

Burning Platform is back from its brief hiatus for a special live Virtual Town Hall, convened on July 6th, looking at the growing fight to resist the US tech behemoth, in partnership with Digital Rights Watch and GetUp!Hosted by Per Capita's Peter Lewis, with speakers: * DRW chair Lizzie O'Shea * GetUp! campaigner Hayden Rodgers * Australian Greens Senator David Shoebridge Show notes available at: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/p/your-palantir-primer

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54:14

Little Voices with Clare Stutchbery

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2026/06/18

This week on Burning Platforms, we're joined by the head of the Local and Independent News Association, Clare Stutchbery, to get her insights on the importance of media diversity in an age of information hierarchies.Panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Australian Writers Guild CEO Claire Pullin and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also explore: Why has Trump blocked Anthropic’s latest model? Is Google responsible for its AI news summaries? Are Gina and Elon a match made in

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67:12

BeNICE with Ed Coper

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2026/06/10

The political strategist and author of ‘Angertainement', Ed Coper, joins the Burning Platform this week to discuss how social media outrage ruined everything and outlines his blueprint for harnessing the toxic information ecosystem. Panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: is Anthropic really calling to hit pause? will Microsoft’s agentic AI play land safely? can a government automate

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50:38

Magnifica Humanitas

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2026/06/03

This week on Burning Platforms we dive deep into Pope Leo’s XIV’s encyclical with Dr Michael Walker from the Justice and Peace Office at the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney .Our panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, ABC AI reporter Cam Wilson and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: AI’s Trust Deficit Amnesty International’s new report: Unlawful by Design and Greenpeace’s new research on data centres ‘Energy Vampires’ For background notes on these discussions go to

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63:01

Deep Tech with George Tulloch

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2026/05/27

The founder of start-up Noizend on the challenges of scaling tech in Australia and how the real innovation is not running on the back of LLMs. Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: Why is Meta ditching End to End Encryption? Will Google’s new IO break the internet? And Elon Musk’s the SpaceX float take-off? For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack:

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61:44

The Kids are Alright with Tama Leaver

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2026/05/20

Internet academic Tama Leaver on the lines between regulating and equipping children to navigate the AI revolution.Panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, ABC AI reporter Cam Wilson and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: Students Jeer AI Inspiration Palantir’s Surveillance Playbook and can we build an AI Wealth Fund? For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on Substack: https://burningplatforms.substack.com/

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64:58

The Devil’s Playground with Claire Pullen

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2026/05/13

The Australian Writer’s Guild CEO Claire Pullen updates us on the fight to protect Australian creators from the industrial-scale thrift of their work.Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: The wild west of AI-powered toys Chat-GPT’s new bot-phone and how Anthropic is tapping religious leaders for moral guidance For background notes on these discussions go to Burning Platforms on

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60:23

Kids’ Gloves with Carly Kind

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2026/05/06

The Privacy Commissioner takes us through the new code to to give children greater control over their data and how this could open the door for less surveillance for all of us.Regular panellists Digital Rights Watch Chair Lizzie O’Shea, Health Engine CEO Dan Stinton and Per Capita’s Peter Lewis also delve into: What’s behind the cancellation of RightsCon? Why did Jack Dorsey lay off 40 per cent of his business? And who wins when two tech overlords go to court? For background notes

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