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Two Off The Tee

Brothers Jeff and James Shin — proudly high-handicap Chicago golfers with long-time careers in real estate and lending — break down their world of golf: gear, matches, league drama, course stories, and the grind of getting better. It’s rivalry, personality, and unfiltered golf talk from two guys who compete on and off the course. If you’re into golf, banter, and the real amateur grind, this is your show.

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00:53:44

Scottie Scheffler Conceded a 32-Footer After a Fan...

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/10/06

Scottie Scheffler conceded a 32-foot putt at the Presidents Cup after a fan yelled in Nico Echavarria's swing. James Shin calls it the right move and says he'd do the same, because he wants to win fair and square. Jeff Shin isn't buying the halo. Scottie still had a tap-in for par, and Jeff says he doesn't give that putt if he's staring at bogey. Would you?Then the brothers fight about their own cup. James wants to play straight up with no handicaps, and he brings it up after the

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00:39:22

Caddie Quit on Hole 9 Over an Umbrella: Would You Walk?

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/09/29

Bryson posted "I'm coming home." James Shin thought it meant a return to the PGA Tour. Jeff Shin says it was a backyard hole-in-one challenge over his house with a crew of YouTubers. James fell for it, and he admits it.Then the caddie who dropped the bag on hole nine. Jeff tells the whole story: a range argument about where the bag went, an umbrella in the bag on a sunny day, a few choice words the golfer wouldn't take back, and "Man, I'm out." Would you ever walk off

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00:41:43

Presidents Cup at *MEDINAH*: Jeff Shin vs James Shin

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/09/22

Presidents Cup week is in Chicago. Jeff Shin wants Team USA at Medinah. James Shin takes the International side -- he just says Team Korea. The one clip they both actually know is Tom Kim putting his putter on the ground.Then two claimed 3-handicaps from Oklahoma booked flights after a challenge. The other group backed out. These two did not. Exhibition 2v2. James says give them strokes. Jeff says maybe it's a hustle.Also on this tape: our league's tenth season is in the books. James missed

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00:51:15

LIV Filed *CHAPTER 11*: Soft Money Era Over?

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/09/15

LIV Golf filed for Chapter 11. Jeff walks the burn rate: about $5 billion to start, with something like $15 million left. Jon Rahm is still owed about $7.5 million. Bryson about $5.8. DJ about $5.5. Rick Shiels shows up on the list too. James says nobody watches LIV and it was bound to fail. Then they ask whether the soft-money era is over, or whether LIV 2.0 and the NDAs still hide the real story.Also on this tape: a scooped short putt in match play and who owns the gimme. Stroke play vs match

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01:05:00

Legacy or the Bag: Would You Chase Tiger or Take $100M?

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/09/08

Scottie Scheffler came from three back at East Lake, won his second FedEx Cup, and the money talk started before the trophy cooled. He passed Tiger Woods for most PGA Tour career earnings. James says comparing that number to Tiger's era is not fair : different prize pools, different decades. Jeff puts an asterisk on the dominance: half the best players left for LIV. Then they argue whether you chase Tiger's legacy or take the bag when a new league knocks.Also on this tape: James heard Good

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00:49:01

Good Good vs Callaway: Do Not Touch My New Driver

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/09/01

Good Good made a Callaway driver ad where Garrett shoulder-tackles his girlfriend and yells don't touch my driver. James had to go hunt for it after they took it down. He called it mean. A little sexist. He wouldn't bump Ella for a driver. Jeff watched the extra 15 seconds — some other guy touches the club, looks possessed, starts ripping balls three different ways — and still thought the whole thing was a mess.Callaway admitted they approved it. Then Jeff says they cut them. Dick's and

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00:50:09

Don't Hit It There: Tree Roots Don't Get a Free Drop

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/08/25

LeBron James just started a golf YouTube channel, and he is about a 22 handicap. That is the cold open, and it is why this episode exists. James has not watched a full episode yet. He already knows LeBron is out there with Bob Does Sports, nearly holed one on camera, and is posting the kind of round Jeff grew up never getting — everyone knew Jordan golfed, and nobody ever got the tape. They argue whether that is bad golf or relatable golf. James wins. Relatable. Because they are not bad golfers.Then

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01:00:30

If You Take Mulligans, You Can't Break 100

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/08/17

James read out every player he thought was getting eliminated from Sunday's playoff, and when he got to his own brother's name he didn't even pause. Jeff had to sit there and take it, on his own show, four days before he has to go play the tournament. It took about four seconds for the word "traitor" to come out, and the rest of that segment is two grown men arguing about whether one of them is the LeBron James of a golf league that started with six people.That's the middle

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01:03:30

Every Golf Rule People Want Changed Is Just Asking...

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/08/10

Jeff played with a guy who put two, sometimes three balls in play off every tee and then got irritated with the group about it. His whole defense was that he's better than this. Jeff's answer, which he ends up repeating three separate times over the next twenty minutes: if you have to ask whether you can hit another one, you already know you're wasting my time. I'm not here to watch you golf all day. Play your shot.That kicks off a segment James named live on the air — What Grinds My

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00:58:52

A $700 Round at Erin Hills and 72 Holes in Three Days

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/08/03

Jeff had already taken a penalty drop. He hacked it out, chipped on, and left himself twelve inches. He walked up expecting somebody to wave it off the way he'd been waving putts off all morning, and instead one guy said it wasn't good and another said he was too far away to tell. So Jeff putted it the way you putt a twelve-incher, missed by a hair, and watched it trickle twenty feet down the slope.That's where this episode really starts. Jeff's position is that gimmes have no

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00:53:26

Every Golfer Knows Exactly What They're Doing Out There

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/07/27

James thinks Bryson stepped down that rough on purpose and that every golfer watching knows exactly what happened. Jeff thinks one camera angle isn't the whole story, and that the rule is so subjective you can't hang a guy on it. They go at it for six minutes — Patrick Reed's bunker, the fescue at the Internet Invitational, whether a subconscious step even counts as cheating — and neither one gives an inch.Then it stops being about the pros. Jeff admits on the mic that he's watched

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00:50:44

Anthony Kim Got Robbed + Simmies Golf Is Real

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/07/20

Jeff dropped a comment telling Anthony Kim he should've won Comeback Player of the Year at the ESPYs — and Kim actually saw it. That sets off the argument that opens the episode: is a 12-years-gone, fought-through-addiction return a bigger comeback than an NFL star bouncing back from an Achilles tear? Jeff says it's not close. James thinks it's a great story that maybe doesn't belong on an award-show stage.Then the news we've been sitting on for months: we signed the lease for

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01:08:44

A Villain Is Born — Golf Haters, League Cheaters &...

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/07/13

Jeff spent last week telling amateurs they don't need a rangefinder. This week the internet came for him — and a villain was born. Now he's ready to fight every hater in his comments, and James is gleefully pouring gasoline on it.From there we get into the stuff every weekend golfer actually argues about: is YouTube golf really more popular than the PGA Tour now? Was that "plus-3.5" who got smoked by hole 14 ever a plus-3.5? Should you be allowed to blast music from your cart — or

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00:59:32

Rangefinders Are a Scam for Amateur Golfers

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/07/06

Jeff has a hill he's willing to die on: if you're a 20-plus handicap, you do NOT need a rangefinder — the cart GPS is free, front-middle-back is all you can actually use, and lasering every shot is why your group plays so slow. James pushes back hard, and the "do amateurs need a rangefinder or is a cart GPS enough" debate turns into the most hate-comment-worthy take we've done all season.Plus: Brother vs Brother finally played Mount Prospect — except Jeff says it

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01:11:43

My Brother Says He's Got Me Cheating On Camera

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/06/29

Golf turned into a courtroom this week. After Bob Does Sports' Joey Coldcut got accused of lifting an embedded ball (and threw a fit on camera), we spent the whole episode building rules to stop "sus" activity in our own league: declare your ball, mark your opponent's ball ("the Cowboy Rule"), and a "call sus" penalty where a wrong accusation costs YOU a stroke. It got personal — James swears he has Jeff on video moving his ball, and Jeff admits he fluffs his

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00:46:17

12 Drops, 9 Lost Balls — Our Worst Round Ever

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/06/22

We teamed up for Brother vs Brother, and it fell apart: James shot 116 — twelve drops, nine lost balls on the back nine, zero pars — two days after we both shot our best rounds of the year (83 and 84 walking the tips). Now we're on the longest losing streak of our careers, and we spent hole 10 arguing about who's the worst teammate.Then the hard truth: a kid three years into golf is beating us, and we've played fifteen — it's "internet poker for golf," where the kids study

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00:53:14

I Call My Brother 1 Hour Before — He Can't Say No

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/06/15

Brother vs Brother is still unsettled — Jeff says the Bridges of Poplar round "doesn't count" because James switched the venue with no notice, and we never got a verdict. So you decide: counts = Jeff's 0-2, doesn't = 0-1. New twist for Game 3 — Jeff calls James with one hour's notice, names the course, and James can't say no. James says he'll sweep it 4-0 and still give Jeff a game. Game 3's teased for Father's Day.Up top: Nelly won her 4th major, and Jeff

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00:57:01

My Brother Says Our Round "Doesn't Count"

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/06/08

Brother vs Brother Round 2 took place at Bridges of Poplar; Jeff lost again — and now he says it "doesn't count" because James switched the venue with two hours' notice. James says Jeff asked if it counts, agreed, recorded the whole thing, then backpedaled after getting spanked. So we're letting you decide: counts = Jeff's 0-2, doesn't = 0-1, and we replay at Mount Prospect.Plus a Path to Par mid-season report card: the cut line is a hit, people are panicking, and

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00:57:04

He Won Our First Major On The Senior Tees

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/06/01

Our first-ever Path to Par major became the "Squawk at the T-Hawk." Tom won the Members Open at Thunderhawk by playing the senior tees as a single-digit handicap. Legal, but is it a championship or an asterisk? The brothers fight over tiered tee boxes versus a single standard tee for everyone.Then the receipts: Brother vs Brother Round 1 finally happened at Highlands of Elgin, and Jeff — who picked the course to break James — shot 101 and lost. The league now calls him "Triple Digit

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00:55:42

Simmies Lease Is Drafted, Keys Hand Over June 1

Two Off The Tee ·

2026/05/25

Brother vs Brother Round 1 is happening on camera Sunday at Highlands of Elgin — and Jeff picked the course on purpose because James plays well there. The whole plan is to beat him on his home turf and break him for Round 2. GoPros mounted, stroke play, same tee box.Before the reveal, the brothers fight about the PGA Championship winner showing up in iron covers AND two gloves, a $288 bet that turned into tens of thousands, whether Bryson is about to quit for YouTube, Bill Ackman's AI rule for

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