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Stories Lived. Stories Told.

Abbie VanMeter and The CMM Institute

The purpose of Coordinated Management of Meaning is to create better social worlds through better communication. This podcast is about empowering all of us in our communication to see ourselves as curious and active participants with the ability to create meaningful change in our relationships and social worlds.Our practice of CMM is about embodying a “communication perspective,” which asks us to “look at communication, rather than through it.” To take a communication perspective is to consider what

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12:01

[BONUS] Stevie Munz on the CSCA Pre-Conference

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2026/04/02

Abbie and Stevie talk about the CSCA pre-conference, why the theme of "Communicating in the Unknown: Navigating Uncertainty in a Changing Field" is so important right now, and what Stevie is looking forward to about this year's conference and next. ... Register for CSCA ⁠⁠⁠here.⁠⁠⁠ Listen to Ep. 1 with Kristina Scharp ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠. Listen to Ep. 2 with Jeff Child ⁠⁠here⁠⁠. Listen to Ep. 3 with Tiffany Wang ⁠here⁠. Listen to Abbie's 'Stories Lived. Stories Told.' podcast ⁠⁠⁠her...

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80:31

On Reimagining Our Personal, Public, and Political...

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2026/04/01

Welcome to the CSW Participant Podcast! ... Today, Abbie is joined by the participants of the Co-Creating Social Worlds Symposium in New York City to reflect on their experiences of this gathering. In this episode, you will hear from 11 symposium participants who stopped to speak with Abbie during the in-person symposium. These conversations were recorded onsite at Mercy University in New York City, New York at the Co-Creating Social Worlds Symposium between January 27-28, 2026. (...

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11:11

[BONUS] Tiffany Wang On Creating Meaningful...

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2026/03/19

Abbie and Tiffany discuss what goes on behind the scenes to prepare for CSCA, Tiffany's dual roles as Interim Executive Director and Second Vice President, and her hopes for the meaningful experiences- both academic and non-academic- that the CSCA team has worked hard to create for conference attendees. Plus, Tiffany offers an invitation for all conference attendees to reach out to her at csca.ed@gmail.com with any accessibility or dietary needs, general questions, or requests that will...

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64:44

On Hope, Agency, and Community at the Co-Creating...

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2026/03/18

What are your 'practices for togetherness'? ... In this special episode, Abbie shares the recording of a panel she participated in, titled, 'Hope, Agency, and Community: Practices for Togetherness' at the Taos Institute's Co-Creating Social Worlds Symposium. Panel facilitator, Somer Saleh, guides Abbie and her fellow panelists, Chris Hoff and Mario Ismael Espinoza, through a conversation about coalitions, wisdom keepers, interpersonal power, shared precarity, curiosity, story-seeking, imagina...

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12:51

BONUS | Jeff Child on Being CSCA President | The...

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2026/03/05

Introducing 'The Stories of CSCA'- a new podcast mini-series hosted by Abbie in collaboration with the Central States Communication Association (CSCA)! ... In episode two of 'The Stories of CSCA' Abbie and Jeff talk about Jeff’s role as President of the Central States Communication Association (CSCA), including the long-term view of how CSCA evolves over time, the work of the leadership team to ensure gatherings offer opportunities to connect and learn together about how to meet this pr...

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11:06

BONUS | Kristina Scharp on the Theme of Translate |...

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2026/03/04

Introducing 'The Stories of CSCA'- a new podcast mini-series hosted by Abbie in collaboration with the Central States Communication Association (CSCA)! ... In episode one of 'The Stories of CSCA' Abbie and Kristina explore this year's conference theme: 'TRANSLATE!' They talk what it means to translate communication scholarship, how Kristina is already steeped in a practice of translation, and what her hopes are for this conference and how attendees will experience translating throughout...

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76:49

On Creating Invitations to Imagination with Jenn Chan...

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2026/03/04

What can you imagine for a better world? ... Today, Abbie and Jenn discuss the recent Chinese Lunar New Year, and the context of the transition from the year of the Wood Snake to the year of the Fire Horse as it relates to a shared sense of urgency, momentum, revolution. As Abbie and Jenn explore imagination as invitation, action, rehearsal, and experiment, they name a relationship between communication, stories, and imagination for designing better social worlds. ... Jennifer Chan (she...

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74:29

On Episodes, Boundaries, and Marginalization with...

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2026/02/18

What is your practice of systems thinking? ... Today, Abbie and Gerald explore the ongoing practice of defining and redefining systems; the relationship between boundaries and meaning-making; the impact of moral forces on naming the 'sacred' and 'profane;' the inter-relational complexity that goes beyond otherness and belonging: the twin myths of non-intervention and non-communication; the connection between reason and emotion; and the emergent nature of systems. ... Gerald Midgley is a...

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61:01

On Exploring Systems, Perspectives, and Complexity...

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2026/02/04

Where are you able to identify opportunities to make new choices in the systems you live, work, and play within? ... Today, Abbie and Christian talk trying out practical methods for system thinking, balancing simplicity and complexity, using the 5M structure (motivate, meet, map, make, manage), and inviting playful exploration of choices with groups. ... Christian Baron, PhD, is a freelance consultant, trainer, and systemic coach. As founder of zusammen-weiterdenken, he supports ...

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12:49

On Reflexivity with Abbie VanMeter | Ep. 153

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2025/12/24

What have you learned in 2025? ... Today, Abbie offers one last, short episode for Season 4. In it, she explores her own reflections on the past year and hopes for the coming year. She invites listeners to join the conversation however they can- emailing storieslived.storiestold@gmail.com, commenting on YouTube, subscribing and following the CMMi Substack, and joining the CMM LinkedIn Group. ... Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter. Stories Li...

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66:15

On Unlearning Ableism with Jamie Shields and Celia...

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2025/12/10

How can you be proactive in your inclusivity? ... Today, Abbie, Jamie, and Celia explore disability through the lens of a communication perspective, talking about transforming exclusion into inclusion in every space, changing narratives to focus on "the problem" as an inaccessible society rather than any one disabled individual, unlearning our internalized ableism as a necessary step for all of us, becoming proactive rather than reactive in our inclusive accessibility practices, and creating ...

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54:41

On Stories, Exploration, and Learning with Claudia...

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2025/11/26

What makes you a designer? ... Today, Abbie, Claudia, and Chris explore radical changes in learning around systems thinking and design over time, along with the implications for future designers, which includes all of us. This conversation was recorded in front of a live audience as part of the RSDX Online Festival on Sunday, October 5, 2025. Join the RSDX Zoom Event here to watch the recording of Claudia and Chris' presentation 'Configuring Incompossible Futures'. ... Claudia Westerman...

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51:22

On Metadesign, Emergence, and Futures with Hannah...

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2025/11/12

In what ways are you a designer? ... Today, Abbie, Hannah, and Mathilda explore the dissonance between prioritizing the present and/ or the future; the discomfort (and learning) that comes with awkward spaces; the power of storytelling for expanding our imagination; and the importance of designing with emergence in mind. This conversation was recorded in front of a live audience as part of the RSDX Online Festival on Friday, October 3, 2025. ... Hannah Jones is a design educator an...

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118:43

On Relating Systems Thinking and Design at RSD14 |...

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2025/10/29

Welcome to the RSD14 Participant Podcast! ... Today, Abbie is joined by the participants of the Relating Systems Thinking and Design (RSD14) Conference in Toronto to reflect on their own experiences of both the online and in-person conference, the stories and contexts around design that they bring with them, and the conversations they are a part of and what they hope is next for this community. In this episode, you will hear from 13 conference participants who stopped to speak with Abbie duri...

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65:44

On Collaboration, Performance & Chamber Music with...

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2025/10/15

In what ways are you an artist? ... Today, Abbie, Annie, and Dorianne discuss ‘The Art of Collaboration: Chamber Music Rehearsal Techniques and Team Building,’ Annie and Dorianne’s new book that introduces themes of co-leadership and empathy which are relevant for all small group communication. Particularly, Abbie, Annie, and Dorianne talk about ‘We Presence,’ LBAD (Live, Breath, and Die), and “trying out everyone’s ideas as if they were your own.” ... Violinist Annie Fullard, celebrated for ...

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66:24

On A Relational Approach to Disorganizing with Kate...

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2025/10/01

What does it look like to connect everyday interactions to broader social dynamics? To use our knowledge of interpersonal communication to create the kinds of organizations, communities, and systems we want to make? ... Today, Abbie and Kate talk about a relational approach to disorganizing systemic violence in organizations, exploring themes from Kate’s new book Transforming Trauma to discuss different ways of knowing (and not knowing) in our bodies, minds, and relationships; flexibility and...

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58:27

On Social Therapeutics and Performance Activism with...

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2025/09/17

How do we embrace the unknowability of being alive? ... Today, Abbie and Lois explore social therapeutics and performance activism as avenues for “performing beyond ourselves,” embracing life as play (and play as life), and creating stages- not of development- but, for development. ... As director of the East Side Institute, the research and education center for social therapeutics and performance activism, Lois Holzman has broadened its reach globally across geographical and practice/p...

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63:29

On Communication, Interactions & Systems with Laura...

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2025/09/03

What CMMish tools help us to end a conversation in a different place than where we started? ... Today, Abbie and Laura explore the stories of Laura’s evolving approach to therapy, including the introduction of paradox and counterparadox developed by the Milan Center; the adoption of a more strategic approach to communication from a pragmatic perspective; the shift in seeing the therapist as both observer and participant; and the centering of interaction as the place where social realities are...

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60:13

On Practicing Leadership Playing Dungeons & Dragons...

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2025/08/20

How do games like Dungeons and Dragons enable us to practice a CMM-informed way of relating, participating, and communicating? ... Today, Abbie and Tom explore Dungeons and Dragons (D&D) as a powerful practice and metaphor for developing more relational, emergent, and collaborative ways of being and leading, touching on the value of experiential learning in scenarios our brains will remember as real; the need (both in game and out) to coordinate across different meanings being made ...

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58:50

On Creating 'Grains of Empowerment' for Women and...

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2025/08/06

Who isn't being invited to the conversation? ... Today, Abbie and Mil explore ways to create “grains of empowerment” that enable every individual to participate in community-based solutions to our global problems, beginning with each of us asking the question “who is missing?” in every space we enter; systematically inviting people with differing perspective, identities, and experiences to the table; and naming the invisible patterns of communication that keep us from hearing each other in co...

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