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Forever Chemicals

Black-Footed Ferret Productions, LLC

From the creators of Outdoor Minimalist, a new ten-part series sets out to answer questions like: - What are PFAS? - Why is PFAS dangerous? - And how can we move forward in the outdoor industry without PFAS? Over the course of ten episodes, we’ll investigate the origins, rise, and now phase out of the forever chemicals PFAS. If you’re wondering how we can make a difference in the fight against PFAS pollution and keep our planet and our health on the forefront of producers minds, tune into

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00:04:54

The Poison Detectives

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/05/01

A new podcast from Canada's National Observer tells the story of a firefighter’s wife and a corporate lawyer in different parts of the U.S. who get pulled into solving separate mysteries. Something was making cows die and deer haemorrhage to death in West Virginia. That same something could also be giving firefighters cancer – all over the country. When the lawyer and the firefighter’s wife met, they found out they were working on the same mystery. The mystery was caused by a man-made chemical

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00:35:17

10. The Path Ahead: Remediation and Clean-Up

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/04/29

Throughout this ten-part series, scientists, lawyers, advocates, and product producers all weighed in on our worldwide PFAS problem. While, yes, we have come a long way in understanding the scope of the issue and began moving away from PFAS, at least in the outdoor industry, many questions still remain. One of the primary questions is, what should we do with all the old PFAS already in the environment? Guests featured in this episode: - Scott Wilson, Regenesis - Philippe Grandjean, Environmental

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00:30:34

9. PFAS as a Cautionary Tale

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/04/22

Throughout this series, we’ve learned not only about how harmful PFAS is as a class of chemicals but also what the outdoor industry is doing to address the issue. While we may have started too late, we are on the right track now, but the work is far from over. Guests featured in this episode: - Alex Lauver, ⁠⁠⁠Outdoor Research⁠⁠ - James Pollock,⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Marten Law LLP⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Mike Schade,⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Toxic Free Future⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Ammi Borenstein, ⁠⁠⁠Snaplinc Consulting⁠⁠ - Eva Karlsson, ⁠⁠⁠Houdini Sportswear⁠⁠⁠ -

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00:25:17

The Global PFAS ‘Forever Chemical’ Crisis Explained...

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/04/17

If you’ve listened to the Forever Chemicals podcast up until this point or followed the global contamination issue over the last few decades, then you’ll know the name Robert Bilott. In this exclusive season one BONUS episode, we hear from Robert Bilott on the current state of the PFAS problem. He emphasizes the crucial role of litigation and advocacy in pushing for necessary regulation, making it clear that our involvement is not just important, but necessary. The New York Times dubbed Robert

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00:33:02

8. Are PFAS-Free Products Possible?

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/04/15

It seems that many brands are moving in the right direction in terms of phasing PFAS out of their products, but one of the many aspects complicating this process is the potential for contamination. In this episode, we hear directly from leading outdoor industry brands like Keen, Outdoor Research, Fjallraven, and Houdini Sportswear alongside scientists and environmental epidemiologists about how and why PFAS spreads and contaminates products so easily. Guests featured in this episode: - Stefan

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00:35:51

7. Phasing Out PFAS in US Apparel

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/04/08

As we learned in earlier episodes, phase-out and regulatory efforts for PFAS were not swift, and they certainly are not complete. However, because of the recent regulatory changes on consumer goods, specifically in California, many US-based outdoor brands and chemical companies have finally committed to removing PFAS from their products. Guests featured in this episode: - Greg Brietmier, Mystery Ranch - Mike Schade,⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Toxic Free Future⁠⁠⁠ - Ammi Borenstein, ⁠Snaplinc Consulting - Alex Lauver,

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00:28:27

6. European Companies Are Far Ahead

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/04/01

The goal of this series is to provide useful information for consumers regarding PFAS, specifically within the outdoor industry, but also for those of us working in the industry. I learned from every single person that I interviewed and talked to about the topic of PFAS, and one of the patterns I noticed during production was that most of the European brands like Jack Wolfskin, Fjallraven, and Houdini Sportswear were early adopters of phasing PFAS out of their products. As early as 2009, some of

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00:26:27

5. Have We Ever Needed PFAS in Our Outdoor Gear?

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/03/25

As more regulations come into play, many outdoor brands have moved the needle and promised to phase PFAS out of their products and apparel by 2025. While this is great news, what’s curious as a consumer is that alternative chemistry has existed for quite some time. Brands like Nikwax never needed to use harmful chemicals to achieve waterproof capabilities, and now Nikwax is one brand leading the charge with industry-wide innovations with cleaner chemistry. In later episodes, we will explore how

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00:44:05

4. The Rise and Limitations of PFAS Regulations

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/03/18

Regulatory efforts across the globe have been pushing for removing certain types of PFAS in specific product categories. Still, there are many limitations, and regulators often receive pushback from chemical companies. In episode four of the Forever Chemicals ten-part podcast series, we break down the increase of PFAS regulation in the US and the EU, along with the limitations we face in the pursuit of cleaner chemistry. Guests featured in this episode: - James Pollock,⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Marten Law LLP⁠⁠⁠ -

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00:31:53

3. PFAS in the Outdoor Industry: A Performance Chemistry

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/03/11

In episode three of the Forever Chemicals ten-part podcast series, we give an overview of how PFAS is used in modern-day production, and get an inside look at why it became a performance chemistry in the outdoor industry.Guests featured in this episode: - Mike Schade,⁠ ⁠⁠Toxic Free Future⁠⁠⁠ - Ammi Borenstein, Snaplinc Consulting - Arlene Blum,⁠ ⁠⁠Green Science Policy Institute ⁠⁠⁠ - Stefan Posner, ⁠⁠textile and polymer chemist⁠⁠ - Alex Lauver, Outdoor Research - James Pollock, ⁠⁠Marten Law LLP⁠ -

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00:24:43

1. From Atomic Bombs to Teflon Pans: How the PFAS...

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/03/04

In the first episode of this ten-part series, we explore where PFAS came from and how it became a prevalent part of our consumer products. While the innovation of this class of chemicals has been astoundingly effective in applications like firefighting foams, waterproof rain jackets, and Teflon pans, our appetite for convenience created a toxic chemistry we may have to live with forever. In the next episode of Forever Chemicals, we dive deeper into how the controversy surrounding PFAS grew into a

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00:33:46

2. A Brief History of How PFAS Poisoned the World

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/03/04

PFAS are a large class of chemicals that have been used since the late 1930s. What makes them particularly hazardous is that they are persistent and difficult to break down. That means all the PFAS that have even been created still exist today.In the first episode of this ten-part series, we learned the history of how PFAS was created. In episode two, we get a better understanding of just how dangerous PFAS chemicals are and how a series of lawsuits brought these health hazards to light. Guests

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00:03:08

Trailer

Forever Chemicals ·

2024/02/05

In this new ten-part series, we sat down with countless experts from brands like Fjallraven and Outdoor Research along with scientists, lawyers, and law makers that all have a stake in how PFAS is used, and how it is now being eliminated.Over the course of ten episodes, we’ll investigate the origins, rise, and now phase out of the forever chemicals PFAS (previously known as PFCs). With more companies beginning to understand the dangers of these commonly used chemicals, they’re being phased out to

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