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BiggerPockets Money Podcast

Intermediate to advanced personal finance strategies for people serious about the FIRE (financial independence retire early) movement—not just dreaming about it. Tune in on Tuesdays and Fridays for new BiggerPockets Money episodes with your hosts, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench! Or visit BiggerPocketsMoney.com with additional resources.

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21:24

Stay on Track to FIRE With These Money Moves Before 2026

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/11/18

Time's running out on 2025, and there are critical financial moves you need to make before December 31st. In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy and Scott walk you through the essential year-end tasks that could save you thousands of dollars and keep your FIRE goals on track. These aren't just suggestions—they're time-sensitive opportunities that literally disappear when the calendar flips to January 1st.Whether you're aggressively pursuing financial independence or simply want

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31:25

Should You Pay Off Your Mortgage or Invest? (Best...

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/11/14

Pay off your mortgage or invest? If you're pursuing FIRE, you've wrestled with this question. A paid-off house means thousands extra in your pocket each month and a lower FIRE number. But investing that same money could build significantly more wealth and get you to FIRE with a bigger nest egg. So which strategy wins?To help you decide, Scott built a brand-new mortgage calculator that accounts for interest rates, investment returns, and taxes. He and Mindy use it to analyze real-world

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46:25

How to Build a Tax-Efficient Portfolio (Advanced...

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2025/11/11

Most people think index funds are the only path to financial independence—and they'll get you there in 15-20 years. But what if you could get there faster?In this episode, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench team up with John Bowens from Equity Trust to reveal advanced portfolio strategies that can accelerate your FIRE timeline. This episode covers: Strategic allocation across your Roth IRA, HSA, and 401(k) to maximize tax advantages How to hold alternative investments like real estate,

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50:32

How Can Paul Fast Track to FIRE by 45? ($1.6M Net Worth)

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2025/11/07

Paul has a $1.6 million net worth at 40 years old—impressive by any standard—but he's stuck wondering: Can I retire in the next 5-6 years?In this episode of BiggerPockets Money, Paul shares his journey from debt payoff to building substantial rental income during COVID-19. Now he's sitting on significant equity, strong cash flow, and a critical question: What's the fastest route to FIRE? Hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench dive deep into Paul's complete financial picture—his income, expenses,

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39:04

How to Avoid (or Escape) the Middle-Class Trap and...

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/11/04

You're doing everything right—buying a house, maxing out your 401(k), investing in real estate—but what if these "smart" money moves are actually trapping you in your job? It's the paradox plaguing the FIRE community: you could be a millionaire on paper but can't afford to retire because all your wealth is locked up.Welcome to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! In this episode learn what the middle class “trap” is, why it happens, and most importantly, how to escape it. Scott and Mindy use the

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55:12

From Making $28,000/Year to FI in 5 YEARS

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/10/31

One rental property changed everything. Deandra was drowning—working multiple jobs, crushed by student debt, teaching full-time with no end in sight. Then she bought her first property with just $4,000, and within four years, she walked away from teaching forever.Today, Deandra reveals the exact strategy she used to go from broke teacher to financially independent real estate investor. You'll hear how she leveraged house hacking to buy her first two-bedroom townhouse, scaled into multi-family

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46:10

How The Top 1% Actually Invest (Not What You Think)

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/10/28

The wealthiest 1% invest completely differently than you've been taught—and they definitely don't follow the advice most financial advisors give. In this episode of BiggerPockets Money, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench sit down with Tad Fallows, co-founder of Long Angle, to reveal the real investment strategies of high-net-worth individuals and how they differ from the FIRE community's approach. This Episode Covers: The most common paths to joining the 1% (entrepreneurship, tech executive

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39:05

You DON'T Need to Be "Debt-Free" to Reach FIRE

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2025/10/24

Should you pay off all your debt before investing? Or is that costing you years of financial freedom?In this episode, we're tackling the debate that divides the FIRE community: aggressive debt payoff versus strategic debt management. We break down two real case studies to show you exactly when to prioritize debt payoff and when to invest alongside debt. You'll discover: The interest rate threshold where investing beats debt payoff (and why it matters) Student loan strategies that most

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42:01

$90K in Debt to Coast FI with $1.5M (Here's the...

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/10/21

Ericka Young did what most people think is impossible—she went from 90k in debt to Coast FI with a seven-figure net worth. In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, she's pulling back the curtain on how she did it.What You'll Learn: How to eliminate massive debt without living in total deprivation The debt snowball method in action (and why it works psychologically) When to stop paying off debt and start investing aggressively Investment strategies that built $2.5

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37:02

The FIRE Movement Is Dead! (What You Need to Know)

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/10/17

Is the FIRE movement dead? In 2025, more people are catching on to the huge downsides of pursuing financial independence, retire early. Strict frugality, massive sacrifice, working harder than ever…is it really worth it to retire decades before everyone else? If you’re internally screaming, “Yes! Of course it is!” you’re in good company. Today, we’re talking about why FIRE is NOT dead in 2025 but why most Americans won’t achieve it.It’s easy to claim that the FIRE movement is dead in 2025 when

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70:14

The All Out Approach to Achieve FIRE in Your 30s...

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/10/14

In this BiggerPockets Money episode, we break down the all-out approach to reaching Financial Independence and Retiring Early in your 30s. No tech salary required, no inheritance, no luck. Just aggressive saving, smart investing, and a willingness to optimize every dollar.We'll cover: The exact savings rate you need to hit FIRE in your 30’s How to maximize income without changing careers Where to cut expenses without feeling deprived Investment strategies that accelerate

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46:31

Did She Already Reach Coast FI at 46? (Finance Friday)

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/10/10

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench tackle two pivotal financial decisions with their guest, Kristel. Has she already achieved Coast FI without realizing it? And should she keep her current house or sell it to accelerate her path to financial independence? Kristel opens up about her journey from a frugal upbringing to building an impressive $1.32 million net worth. Mindy and Scott dig deep into her numbers—dissecting her assets, income streams,

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39:51

Net Worth By Age In 2025 (Are You Above Average?)

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/10/07

Let's talk about the average net worth by every age, and how to make sure you save and invest enough money to stay on track. In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench break down actual data to reveal the net worth benchmarks for the median, top 10%, top 5%, and top 1% of every age. If that isn’t enough they then highlight specific strategies that work at each age to hit those benchmarks—from aggressive wealth-building tactics in your 20s and 30s to business

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43:01

Should You Keep or Sell Your House? (Best Choice for...

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/10/03

Should you sell your house right now or turn it into a rental property? In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench dive deep into one of the biggest financial decisions you'll ever make with their guest Sean. He is sitting on serious equity but isn't sure what his next move should be. We break down his entire financial situation using a custom spreadsheet model that analyzes net worth, mortgage rates, rental income potential, cash flow projections, and

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38:16

FI at 44 AFTER Taking a Year Off at 31

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/09/30

What if you could take a year off at 31 and still retire early? Alex Morales, also known as Girl Chasing Wealth, is doing exactly that. In this BiggerPockets Money episode, she sits down with Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench to reveal how she's funding a year-long sabbatical while staying on track to achieve financial independence by 44, all on a median salary in a high-cost-of-living area. Alex's journey proves you don't need a six-figure income or to live in a low-cost city to make FIRE work—you just

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59:54

The Four Fundamentals of Retirement Drawdown

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/09/26

Join Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench on the BiggerPockets Money Podcast as they welcome retirement tax experts Sean Mullaney, The FI Tax Guy, and Cody Garrett, a certified financial planner, to break down their game-changing retirement drawdown order of operations. This isn't your typical retirement advice - it's a strategic blueprint that could save early retirees and traditional retirees thousands in taxes while ensuring their money lasts a lifetime.Discover the four critical retirement drawdown

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50:13

Why Early Retirement Means Paying Less in Taxes

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/09/23

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by tax experts Sean Mullaney and Cody Garrett to reveal how early retirement can actually be your smartest tax strategy. The conversation immediately tackles one of the biggest misconceptions holding people back from FIRE - the fear that retiring early means facing higher taxes. Instead, they demonstrate how lower retirement income typically translates to significantly lower tax bills, completely

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33:17

Which FIRE Strategy is Best for You? (Lean to Fat FIRE)

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/09/19

Join Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench on this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast as they dive into the different types of FIRE. Financial Independence, Retire Early isn't a one-size-fits-all approach - it's evolved into multiple distinct paths, each designed to meet different lifestyles, risk tolerances, and financial goals. This comprehensive exploration will help you understand which version of financial independence makes the most sense for your unique situation.From traditional FIRE to

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45:47

FI Faster by Making More and Spending Less Using...

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/09/16

Discover how geo-arbitrage can double your investing power without requiring a raise, career change, or lottery win! In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench are joined by Daniel Mills to explore how remote workers can live lavishly on a middle-class salary by strategically leveraging location differences. This isn't just about moving somewhere cheaper - it's about unlocking a completely different financial trajectory through smart geographic choices.Daniel

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30:21

How to Save 50% of Your Income Without Sacrificing...

BiggerPockets Money Podcast ·

2025/09/12

What if we told you that your path to financial independence isn't about picking the perfect stocks, timing the market, or earning a massive salary? In this revealing episode of BiggerPockets Money, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench cut through all the noise to focus on what actually matters: your savings rate. This isn't just theoretical advice—Mindy and Scott get personal, sharing their own savings journeys, including the costly mistakes they made and the pivotal breakthroughs that transformed

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