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Road to the Trials

Peter Bromka, Lindsey Hein, and Matt Chittim

Co-hosts Matt Chittim, Lindsey Hein, and Peter Bromka interview every 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials Qualifier along with a wide-ranging group of industry professionals in preparation for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles.

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00:51:18

JP Flavin: From College Underdog to 2:09 Marathoner

Road to the Trials ·

2026/03/26

JP Flavin joins the show after a breakthrough win at the Marathon Project and a massive leap forward to 2:09. His journey hasn’t followed a traditional path, but that’s exactly what makes it compelling. From a solid but not standout college career to becoming one of the top American marathoners, JP has built his success through consistency, self-awareness, and a willingness to evolve.JP shares how his approach to racing is shifting from chasing times to learning how to truly compete. After years of

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00:52:38

Matt Lenehan: Three-Time OTQ Qualifier on...

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2026/03/23

Matt Lenehan joins Road to the Trials after qualifying for his third Olympic Trials, most recently breaking 2:16 at CIM. What stands out most about Matt’s journey isn’t just the progression from 2:38 to sub-2:16, but how he’s approached running the entire time: with consistency, curiosity, and a commitment to keeping it fun.Matt shares how his progression has been steady rather than explosive, built on years of simply showing up. He talks about why he avoids overthinking races, often running without

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00:59:28

Emily Saul on the Mind Behind the Marathon Miles

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2026/03/19

Emily Saul joins Road to the Trials for a thoughtful conversation about the mental side of racing and what it takes to pursue big goals without letting pressure take over. A sports psychologist based in Boston, Emily works with athletes at every level and brings both professional expertise and personal experience as a marathoner to this conversation.This episode explores the psychology behind chasing time-based goals like a Boston qualifier or Olympic Trials standard, and how athletes can stay

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00:52:00

Kristoffer Mugrage: 2:14:59 at The Marathon Project...

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2026/03/16

Kristoffer Mugrage joins Road to the Trials to talk about his journey through multiple Olympic Trials cycles and what it takes to build a career in the marathon over the long term. Kris first came close to the Trials standard at CIM in 2019, missing by just seconds, and has steadily improved since then through years of high-mileage training and consistent racing.Kris shares how his confidence as a marathoner grew through races like his win at the Columbus Marathon and his breakthrough performances

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00:40:18

Macy McRowe: The 2:36 Marathon Built on Cross...

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2026/03/12

This week on Road to the Trials, Peter Bromka talks with Macy McRowe, whose marathon training looks very different from the typical elite approach.Instead of the standard 7-day training cycle, Macy structures her training around a 14-day schedule, often running long only once every two weeks and mixing in significant cross training alongside limited running volume. Despite the unconventional structure, the approach helped her finish 6th at the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon.Macy shares how this

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00:48:28

Zach Kreft: Five Marathons in 2025 and the Fueling...

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2026/03/10

Zach Kreft joins Road to the Trials after a remarkable 2025 season that included five marathons and a major breakthrough at the California International Marathon. After narrowly missing the Olympic Trials standard at the Chicago Marathon with a 2:16:30, Zach returned later in the year and delivered a huge performance at CIM, running 2:13:05 to secure his place at the Olympic Trials.Zach shares what it was like to stack multiple marathons in one season and how each race helped build toward his

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01:05:52

Felicia Pasadyn: From D1 Swimmer to a Self-Coached...

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2026/03/05

Felicia Pasadyn joins Road to the Trials after qualifying for the Olympic Trials Marathon in New York City with a 2:35 performance—her third marathon and part of a rapid progression from 2:49 to 2:44 to 2:35. At just 23 years old, Felicia brings one of the most unique backgrounds in the field.A former Harvard swimmer who later swam while completing her master’s at Ohio State, Felicia spent most of her life focused on the pool before rediscovering competitive running. Now a newly graduated medical

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00:46:46

Ethan Shuley Races into American History with a 2:07...

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2026/03/02

Ethan Shuley joins Road to the Trials after running 2:07:14, the seventh fastest marathon in American history. At just 27 years old and only a few years into serious marathoning, his rise has been fast, from 2:18 to 2:11 to 2:07 in a short window. But as Ethan explains, the breakthrough didn’t happen overnight. It’s the result of years of trial, error, and steadily applying simple principles at a very high level.Peter and Ethan dig into what actually changed: training progression, volume, patience,

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00:49:41

Road to the Trials Recap: Fascinating Episodes During...

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2026/02/28

Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim are all together for this episode for a behind-the-scenes “group chat” episode of Road to the Trials. Between some friendly banter they swap highlights from recent interviews, call out a few standout guests, and share why certain episodes feel like essential listens.The bigger takeaway is how wide the range of “successful paths” really is. Different backgrounds, training styles, and life situations, yet athletes are still finding ways to hit the Trials

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01:01:00

Emily Sisson: 2:18:29 American Record, Five Olympic...

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2026/02/26

In this episode of Road to the Trials, Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka sit down with one of the most accomplished American distance runners of her generation: Emily Sisson.Emily is the American record holder in the marathon with her 2:18:29 performance at the Chicago Marathon, a five-time Olympic Trials qualifier, and a two-time Olympian in both the 10,000m and the marathon. She reflects on the defining moments of her career — from the unforgettable “heat dome” 10,000m at the 2021 Trials to navigating

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00:41:26

Piper Atnip: From Tragedy to the Trials

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2026/02/23

In this episode of Road to the Trials, Matt Chittim and Peter Bromka sit down with Piper Atnip for one of the most powerful conversations of the season.Piper’s journey to the Olympic Trials is anything but ordinary. From profound personal tragedy to earning her spot on the start line, her story is one of resilience, perspective, and quiet strength. With clarity, humility, and emotional honesty, Piper shares how grief reshaped her relationship with running, competition, and herself.The conversation

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00:52:20

Melissa Berry: OTQ in Her 26.2 Debut with Tracksmith...

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2026/02/21

In this episode of Road to the Trials, Peter Bromka and Lindsey Hein sit down with Melissa Berry, fresh off an incredible marathon debut at the California International Marathon, where she ran 2:35:57 to qualify for the Olympic Trials.Melissa grew up in Eugene, Oregon and ran collegiately at the University of Oregon, navigating the ups and downs of a six-year college career that spanned the COVID era. After graduation, she relocated to Flagstaff, Arizona — one of the country’s premier distance

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01:00:15

Reed Fischer: Racing the World Stage and Preparing...

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2026/02/19

In this episode of Road to the Trials, Peter Bromka and Matt Chittim sit down with Reed Fischer to talk about competing on the world stage, staying consistent at the top of U.S. marathoning, and what comes next on the road to 2028.Reed reflects on his experience racing at the World Athletics Championships, breaking down how the race unfolded, what he learned from competing against the best in the world, and how championship racing differs from time-focused marathons. The conversation digs into his

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00:41:05

Hannah Chau: From an 18-Second Miss to Olympic Trials...

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2026/02/16

In this episode of Road to the Trials, Matt Chittim sits down with Hannah Chau, a newly minted Olympic Trials qualifier whose story blends big racing goals with an equally demanding path in medicine.Hannah reflects on her first attempt at qualifying for 2024 while still at UC Irvine, when she narrowly missed the standard at CIM in a debut marathon that was both chaotic and unforgettable. She shares what she learned from that near miss, why she kept coming back, and how those earlier attempts helped

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00:46:36

Mimi Smith: Patience, Progress, and a 2:30...

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2026/02/14

In this episode of Road to the Trials, Peter Bromka is joined by Mimi Smith, fresh off a sixth-place finish at the Houston Marathon.Mimi’s path to this breakthrough has been anything but overnight. She grew up in Chicago, ran collegiately at Wake Forest University, and made her Olympic Trials debut at the 2024 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, where she finished 65th in just her third marathon.After spending multiple seasons racing consistently in the mid-2:30s, Mimi took a major step forward in

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00:47:27

Training on Tired Legs: Ethan Gregg & Awet Beraki on...

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2026/02/12

In this episode of Road to the Trials, Peter Bromka sits down with Hansons-Brooks Project teammates Ethan Gregg and Awet Beraki, two rising marathoners who recently made their debuts in Houston and secured Olympic Trials qualifying times.Ethan and Awet share what it’s like joining one of the most storied marathon programs in the country, Hansons-Brooks Distance Project, where high mileage, long-term development, and team culture are non-negotiable. They walk through their decision to debut the

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00:43:54

Katie Watson Qualifies Again in Houston

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2026/02/09

In this episode of Road to the Trials, Matt Chittim sits down with Katie Watson, a two-time Olympic Trials Marathon qualifier whose path to the start line is defined as much by service as it is by performance. Katie balances elite-level marathon training with demanding work supporting children who have experienced trauma, a responsibility that shapes how she approaches running, recovery, and resilience. Fresh off another strong showing at the Houston Marathon, Katie reflects on longevity in the

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01:45:39

Peter Bromka with Zach Bitter on Storytelling, the...

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2026/02/06

Today on Road to the Trials, we’re sharing a special conversation originally recorded on the Human Performance Outliers podcast with host Zach Bitter.In this wide-ranging discussion, Peter Bromka reflects on his own Olympic Trials journey, the fine margins of marathon performance, and why storytelling has become such a powerful force in modern running. The conversation explores what it really takes to chase elite goals, how hard work, genetics, and sustainability intersect, and why the marathon

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01:14:32

The Business of Road to the Trials (And What’s Next)

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2026/02/05

Five months into Season 4, Peter, Matt, and Lindsey sit down for a behind-the-scenes check-in on what’s working, what’s surprised them, and what’s coming next. They talk about how the show came together, why CIM became the season’s biggest inflection point, and how the team is balancing an ever-growing wave of qualifiers with the goal of featuring every athlete who makes the standard. They also share how sponsorships have helped them keep the show running, what they’re learning about audience

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00:58:13

Lisa Goodin’s Comeback: From NAIA Marathon Lessons to...

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2026/02/03

In this episode of Road to the Trials, Peter Bromka and Lindsey Hein talk with Lisa Goodin, who ran 2:36 at CIM to qualify for the Olympic Trials Marathon in what she considers her second marathon. Lisa shares how an early, rocky marathon experience in college pushed her away from the distance for years, and how she eventually found her way back through half marathons, postpartum training seasons, and rebuilding consistency as a mom of three.Lisa is coached by her husband, a kinesiology professor

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