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Better Way To Build with Shay Cochrane

What the world teaches about how to be successful is costing most entrepreneurs their marriages, mental and physical health, peace, and families. Thankfully, there"s a better way to build that allows you to be wildly successful without losing everything that matters to you along the way. Welcome to the Better Way to Build Podcast brought to you by Ilūme Network. Your host, Shay Cochrane, is an entrepreneur for over 20 years, multi-business owner, Bible teacher, and business coach who has

business entrepreneurship

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23. The Real Reason You Are Stuck

Better Way To Build with Shay Cochrane ·

2026/10/05

The real enemy of your growth in business isn't laziness, distraction, or lack of strategy — and this episode will prove it. Shay makes the case from Genesis to John 15 that self-sufficiency is the single biggest growth blocker in God's economy — and that the solution isn't more discipline or better information, but a willingness to ask: ask God, and ask others. She unpacks why we were designed for dependency from the very beginning, what Jesus' name "I Am" actually reveals about how God wants

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41:42

22. Let God Be the CEO. (What 11 Years of Building...

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2026/09/28

If you've ever wondered whether God actually wants to weigh in on your hiring decisions, your partnerships, and your business pivots — or whether that's just wishful thinking — this conversation will settle it. Shay sits down with Natasha Miller, co-founder of Called Coach Institute and Ilūme Network member, for one of the most grounded and honest conversations this podcast has hosted about what it actually looks like to hear God's voice in business — not theoretically, but decision by decision,

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43:00

21. Struggling to Hear God's Voice in Business? Do This.

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2026/09/21

If your mind is too loud to hear God right now — this episode is your way back in. Shay shares the one practice she has used for three years that consistently gets her into the presence of God — even on the most anxious, overwhelming mornings — and backs it up with both Psalm 100:4 and the neuroscience that proves why it works. She introduces two versions of the practice: a simple daily 10-item gratitude list that rewires your brain's default track over time, and a deeper situational practice

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31:40

20. Too Many Problems to Solve? — Actually, You Only...

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2026/09/14

If you're tired of solving the same business problems on repeat, this episode will show you why you're solving them at the wrong level. Shay introduces the concept of a keystone solution — the one ask that makes most other problems disappear — and builds the case from 1 Kings 3 that Solomon became the wealthiest, wisest leader who ever lived not by solving a million problems, but by asking God for the one thing that prevented them: wisdom and discernment. She walks through Solomon's three-part

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35:26

19. Stop Performing for Authority. Start Building...

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2026/09/07

If you've been grinding to earn your place in the marketplace — anxious, exhausted, and afraid to slow down — this episode will show you the game you've unknowingly been playing and what it looks like to opt out. Shay draws a sharp line between two completely different business economies: the kingdom of the world, where authority comes from impressive performance, and the kingdom of God, where authority comes from identity and alignment with Him. She shares her own story of walking into a room

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18. 8 Fig Founder, Amy Lacey, on Betrayal, Growth and...

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2026/08/31

She built a national brand from her kitchen, scaled it to eight figures in under two years, and walked away with a life-changing exit — and she'll be the first to tell you what it almost cost her along the way. Shay sits down with serial entrepreneur, product innovator, and bestselling author Amy Lacey — founder of Cali'flour Foods and now Livyond and Soursop Nutrition — for one of the most honest conversations this podcast has hosted. Amy pulls back the curtain on the four things every

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36:17

17. What Separates Women Who Stay Stuck From Women...

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2026/08/24

If you're putting in the effort but not seeing the breakthrough — this episode will show you why more hustle is the wrong answer. Shay pulls a deceptively simple business strategy from Ecclesiastes 10:10 — the sharp axe versus the dull axe — and applies it directly to why some entrepreneurs keep breaking through ceiling after ceiling while others stay stuck at the same level despite working just as hard. She builds a practical five-part framework (S-H-A-R-P) for diagnosing where you've gone

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30:36

16. The Strategy That Can Save You Hundreds of...

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2026/08/17

You have access to more advice than any entrepreneur in history — and you're still making expensive mistakes. Here's what Solomon says you're actually missing. In this episode, Shay unpacks one of King Solomon's most overlooked business strategies from Proverbs 15:22 — the difference between accumulating advice and having true personal advisors — and makes the case that the most costly business mistakes aren't made from a lack of information, but from a lack of trusted counsel from people who

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36:01

15. What to Do When What You're Building Feels Too...

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2026/08/10

If what you're building right now feels uncomfortably over your head — this episode was made for this exact moment. Shay gets personal about the anxiety and insecurity of building Ilūme Network — something bigger and more unfamiliar than anything she's built before — and shares the one prayer and the one passage of Scripture she keeps returning to in this season. Drawing from Exodus 33 and Moses' raw, anxious conversation with God before leading an entire nation into the unknown, she pulls out

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30:35

14. Why Passion Dies Even in Successful Businesses...

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2026/08/03

Before you sell it, shut it down, or hire someone to run it so you can escape it — run this diagnostic. In part two of this series on work satisfaction, Shay walks through the final two of her Four Foundations of Satisfied Work: whether you're still walking in the specific good work God planned for your current season, and whether you've drifted too far from the people your business actually exists to serve. She introduces one of the most clarifying ideas in the series — that passion doesn't

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27:07

13. Why You've Lost Your Passion for Work (And How to...

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2026/07/27

If you're still showing up to work every day but quietly feel disconnected from it — this episode names what's happening and starts to show you the way back. I open a two-part series on work satisfaction by introducing my Four Foundations of Satisfied Work — the four things that need to be simultaneously present for a Christian entrepreneur to feel deeply and consistently fulfilled in what she's building. In this first episode, I cover the first two foundations: whether your work connects to

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44:41

12. The Mid-Year Check-In That Changes Everything

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2026/07/20

You can be wildly successful and completely off track at the same time — and most people don't find out until the cost is already too high. In this episode, Shay shares the mid-year assessment she and Graham have done for 15 years that she credits with keeping their marriage, family, health, finances, friendships, and faith all trending in the right direction — even through the hardest seasons of dual entrepreneurship. She walks you through all 11 life sectors of her Whole Life Assessment,

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30:51

11. How to Stop Making Expensive Partnership Mistakes

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2026/07/13

The most expensive mistakes in business usually aren't the risky ones — they're the ones that looked completely logical. In this episode, Shay pulls a surprisingly practical business strategy from Isaiah 31 — a passage about a small nation that made a perfectly logical, strategically sound alliance that God never endorsed — and applies it directly to the hires, partnerships, collaborations, and brand alliances you're making in your business right now. She walks through four sobering warnings and

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39:21

10. What Success Has Cost Our Marriage Part 2

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2026/07/06

If you've ever wondered whether the cost of entrepreneurship is just your life now — this episode is proof you're not alone, and you're not stuck with it. Shay sits down with her husband Graham Cochrane for their most honest conversation yet: what 20 years of dual entrepreneurship has actually cost their marriage — contentment, connection, peace, presence, and what's made it worth fighting for anyway. They walk through the real benefits they've protected, the costs they've paid when operating

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35:51

09. The Cost of Entrepreneurship Part 1

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2026/06/29

If you've ever wondered why success hasn't brought the freedom you expected, this episode will show you what's actually being cost — and why. Shay kicks off a two-part series by naming the real benefits of entrepreneurship most people stop enjoying once they've "made it," then gets honest about what it's actually cost her and Graham over 20 years — their marriage, their health, their walk with God. She makes the case that the cost isn't the problem; it's what we let go unchecked that turns a

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38:55

08. How to Know If God Is Actually Behind Your Business

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2026/06/22

If you've ever wondered whether God is actually in your business — or whether you just built something and hoped He'd bless it — this episode gives you a framework to find out. Shay walks through five of her own businesses and the very different origin stories behind each one, then asks the question every Christian entrepreneur eventually faces: Does God have specific plans for my business, or is it really just up to me? She unpacks what Scripture says about God's predetermined purposes, what it

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33:15

07. Why Working Harder Isn't Moving the Needle

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2026/06/15

If you've been white-knuckling your business outcomes, this episode will either deeply unsettle you — or finally set you free. Shay unpacks what Scripture actually says about who controls outcomes in business, and why your strategy, effort, and budget can only take you so far. She shares her own story of a business pivot that could only have been God, and walks through three countercultural business strategies for building with open hands. This is the episode for the woman who's exhausted

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27:19

06. 3 Signs You've Actually Surrendered Your Business...

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2026/06/08

If you've been building your business on your own strength, this episode will show you exactly what it looks like to hand it back to the One who actually owns it. Shay opens a three-part series on what it practically means to partner with God in business — not theoretically, but on a Tuesday morning when the pressure is real. She walks through the biblical truth that God already owns your business, your skills, and every resource you need, and introduces two countercultural strategies: surrender and

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37:51

05. The Truth About Running 3 Businesses in 16 Hours...

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2026/06/01

If you've ever wondered how someone runs three businesses in just 16 hours a week, this episode pulls back the curtain on what's actually working — and what it's really costing. Shay shares the honest, unfiltered story behind her 16-hour work week - from its humbling origin as a broke new mom who could only afford two days of childcare, to the 80/20 principle that became the backbone of everything she builds. She walks through what has made this model work across 20+ years and three very

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30:49

04. One Word from God Can Change Everything - Here's...

Better Way To Build with Shay Cochrane ·

2026/05/25

If your relationship with God in business still feels occasional and reactive, this episode will show you how to make it constant, practical, and life-giving. Shay closes out the four-part series on hearing God's voice by unpacking what it actually looks like to build a daily lifestyle of abiding — staying connected to God not just in the big decisions, but in the ordinary moments of your workday. She shares the jaw-dropping story of how she and her husband heard God's specific instruction

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