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Good Movement Draws Good Movement

Terryn Drieling

In stockmanship (the art and science of handling cattle in a safe, effective, low-stress manner), we have this phrase . . . good movement draws good movement. It’s this thing that happens when we ask a small group of cattle, maybe a cow, or a pair to move out in a certain direction and their movement draws the whole herd into moving in the same direction. Good movement happens when we approach the cattle with a positive attitude, read and really listen to what they’re telling us, and communicate

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17:19

What Is Anxiety and Why It’s Hard to Just “Calm Down”

Good Movement Draws Good Movement ·

2026/03/17

In today’s episode, I’m talking about what anxiety is and why it’s hard to just “calm down.” When anxiety shows up, it’s not just an emotion floating around randomly. It’s actually a survival response rooted in our nervous system, because our bodies are designed to protect us!What truly helps? SAFETY! When we feel safe, logic comes back online, and we’re able to think more clearly.If you need more support with anxiety and/or safety, and are feeling called to go deeper in your inner work, you can

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12:43

The First Step to Improved Communication

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2026/03/10

In today’s episode, I’m talking about the first step to improved communication. We often jump straight to “What do I say?” or “How do I say this better?” But we bypass the root of it all: self-awareness.If we don’t understand how we’re wired, how our nervous system responds, and how our tone or energy is received, no amount of communication tools will truly “fix” it. Ultimately, improved and effective communication starts with US!If you’re ready to go deeper into the Good Movement Framework with

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11:35

What It Looks Like to Truly Apologize

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2026/03/03

In today’s episode, I’m talking about what it looks like to truly apologize. If the apology includes a “but,” it’s usually not a repair. It’s more like deflection and self-protection. If admitting mistakes didn’t feel safe when we were young, of course it’s going to feel hard now. Safety HAS to exist for honesty and accountability to grow!If this conversation resonates and you’d like to explore your own patterns around apologizing or admitting mistakes, I’d love to support you on your journey. You

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19:44

How Talking Kindly to Your Body Can Benefit Your Life

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2026/02/24

In today’s episode, I’m talking about how talking kindly to your body can benefit your life. About halfway through this last year, I came across Heal Your Body by Louise Hay. It led me to her book You Can Heal Your Life, and while some of it may sound a little “woo,” something about it landed!Now, I’m not saying affirmations *magically* fix everything. However, I’ve noticed a difference in MY everyday life since I’ve been using them!'Of course, nothing is perfect. I still get sick, and I still have

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14:12

What Happens When We Step Closer Rather than Backing...

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2026/02/17

In today’s episode, I’m talking about what happens when we choose to step closer instead of pulling away. My curiosity recently led me to consume I Take My Coffee Black by Tyler Merritt.One of his quotes totally stopped me in my tracks when I heard it: “Distance breeds suspicion, and proximity breeds empathy” (he credits Brian Lawrence). That one sentence captures SO much of what fuels misunderstanding (and what heals it).It’s a whole lot harder to stay angry, judgmental, or hateful toward someone

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33:31

A New Way to Grit Through with Victoria Mexcur

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2026/02/10

In today's episode, I’m talking with licensed mental health therapist Victoria Mexcur about a new way to grit through. Trauma is often treated as a singular, heavy label, but it’s much more nuanced. It’s an experience that impacts the nervous system, creates mental loops, and can disconnect the mind and body in very individual ways.We dive into breaking stigma, repair, and why mental health is just as foundational as the land and animals we care so deeply for. This conversation is grounding, honest,

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14:16

Why Is It So Hard to Admit Mistakes?

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2026/02/03

In today’s episode, I’m talking about why it’s so hard to admit mistakes. I truly believe our willingness (or inability) to admit mistakes has a lot to do with our nervous systems and how they were shaped early on.If you grew up in a home where mistakes were met with grace, understanding, and direction, chances are it feels safer for you to own them now. But if mistakes were met with anger, shame, or punishment, your nervous system learned that it wasn’t safe to admit wrongdoing.This shows up

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28:44

What Might Be Under the Perfectionism, Shame, and...

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2026/01/27

In today's episode, I’m talking to Amber Trejo, a licensed marriage and family therapist who specializes in complex trauma and attachment, about what might be under the perfectionism, shame, and self-loathing. Amber explains how complex trauma often forms when there was never a true baseline of safety growing up, how, while it can be painful to realize we might hurt our kids, the repair matters FAR more than perfection, and so much more.Healing from complex trauma and things like perfectionism,

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12:09

When the Thing Isn't the Thing

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2026/01/20

In today's episode, I'm talking about what happens when the thing isn’t the thing. In rural and ag spaces, especially, we’re really good at shoving feelings down and pushing through. What’s underneath that “thing” is usually a whole pile of unacknowledged stuff (stress, exhaustion, grief, burnout, and more).Recognizing this gives us so much freedom. It helps us stop shaming ourselves for our reactions, stop personalizing other people’s emotions, and create space to get curious about what’s really

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39:42

Getting Out of Your Head and Into the Run with Lydia...

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2026/01/13

I'm excited to welcome Lydia Van Aken to the podcast today!In today's episode, we're talking about getting out of your head and into the run. Lydia shares how our emotions, beliefs, and nervous system state directly affect our horses (whether we’re aware of it or not). Building a strong connection requires self-awareness, intentionality, and learning how to regulate yourself FIRST. We also talk honestly about the cultural messages many of us grew up with in ag and rural communities, how suppressing

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18:01

The Beliefs That Keep Us from Asking for Help

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2026/01/06

In today's episode, I'm talking about the beliefs that keep us from asking for help. Asking for and receiving help is something I’ve been working on in my own life for quite some time now. It’s something that many of us struggle with (especially in agriculture).The truth, though? Not asking for help keeps us isolated, and honestly, that’s not benefiting anyone. As I continue working on this in my own life, I’ve realized that asking for and receiving help doesn’t mean I’m weak or “less than.” I’m

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33:00

The Growing Pains of Boundaries, Help, and Working...

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2025/12/30

In today's episode, we're talking about the growing pains of boundaries, help, and working together. While we complement each other in day-to-day work (and our relationship overall), we definitely still butt heads.We've had arguments that feel funny now (like a certain Jack Russell terrier that almost ruined our relationship)! Working cattle has taught us about reading energy, adjusting expectations, and giving each other space when necessary.Maybe you have some growing pains with boundaries, asking

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12:31

This Isn’t Normal: Calling Out the Quiet Crisis in...

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2025/12/23

In today's episode, I'm calling out the quiet crisis in rural mental health. So many of us in agriculture have had to numb ourselves just to get through the day.But that numbness didn't come out of nowhere. It came from surviving, and it's NOT sustainable. We can't pretend it isn't costing us something!If you're listening today and you're carrying something heavy, please know that you don't have to wait until it breaks you. Reach out and let someone share the load with you, because you're NOT meant

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36:49

Life After Loss in Rural America with Danielle Kruse

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2025/12/16

In today's episode, Danielle Kruse and I are talking about life after loss in rural America.Danielle and her husband had built a life in northwest Iowa, raising babies and crops and building a farm alongside his parents. Like so many rural families, there was pride, responsibility, and pressure.What Danielle didn't know was that her husband was quietly battling a drinking addiction he kept hidden from nearly everyone, and he eventually took his own life.Life after loss changes everything, but

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14:14

Can’t Tell What Your Body Is Saying? Start Here

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2025/12/09

In today's episode, I'm talking about what to do if you can't tell what your body is saying. If you've spent years in survival mode (especially in agriculture), disconnecting from your body isn't a failure; it's a skill you learned to get through hard seasons.Pushing through, overriding needs, and ignoring cues, that's how many of us survived. Of course, it feels confusing to suddenly be asked to "listen to your body" when you have NO idea how to do that!If you're wondering how to reconnect with

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13:46

What if Anger Isn’t Bad — It’s Just Misunderstood?

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2025/12/02

In today's episode, I'm diving into the question: "What if anger isn't bad, it's just misunderstood?" Believe me, I used to be that person who felt guilty the instant anger showed up.Anger doesn't disappear just because we pretend it's not there. It builds, simmers, and eventually leaks out in ways we don't plan for. Anger is just information about how our bodies are feeling off, unsafe, or out of alignment (kind of like how our cattle show us when the pressure isn't right).Ultimately, anger isn't

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21:03

Comfortably Numb: What Healing Feels Like on the...

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2025/11/25

There's been such a powerful ripple effect from episode 105, Comfortably Numb: When Calm Becomes Disconnection. After sharing more about it on social media, so many of you reached out with your own experiences of looking "fine" on the outside but feeling anything but that on the inside.In today's episode, I'm talking about being "comfortably numb" and what healing feels like on the other side. Healing doesn't make life easy, but it makes us capable.If you're longing to move from numb to calm and

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12:25

The Hidden Wounds Behind the Four Horsemen of...

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2025/11/18

In today's episode, I'm talking about the hidden wounds behind the Four Horsemen of Communication. I really want to peel back the layers further and look at the wounds beneath the behaviors.Stonewalling (my personal default + the one for many of you as well) is often the body's cry for safety. Our nervous system is overwhelmed and shutting down because we just can't take any more.These patterns once helped you survive, but they don't have to run the show anymore.When you're ready to explore what

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16:28

Shut the Gate: Boundaries That Grow Capacity

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2025/11/11

In today's episode, I'm talking about boundaries that grow capacity.Many of us grew up believing we were responsible for everyone else's emotions. We learned to stay quiet, stay polite, and keep everyone happy. Unfortunately, those patterns often show up later as burnout, resentment, or the quiet ache of always being available for everyone but ourselves.Boundaries don't have to mean permanence or walls that never come down; they're more like fences with gates. Boundaries that grow capacity can be

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32:42

Trading Whiskey for Witness: Will Hudson on Being...

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2025/11/04

I'm honored to welcome my friend, Will Hudson, to the podcast today!Will's story starts like many others in ranch country: long hours, responsibility at a young age, and a deep desire to prove himself. But somewhere along the way, approval from others became his fuel, and drinking became the way to feel "good enough."In today's episode, we're diving into what being seen and staying sober has really entailed for Will. What started as a party habit in high school and college grew into something that

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