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Inside the Life

Season 3 out now! Tune in weekly. Inside the Life is a podcast produced by The Mob Museum, the National Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement. It is hosted by two former elite undercover agents, Giovanni Rocco and Dutch McAlpin. Their stories of infiltrating everything from the American Mob and outlaw motorcycle gangs to the cartels will leave you stunned. This podcast will give listeners a one-of-a-kind look into the inner world of organized crime, featuring guests who have lived on both

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69:21

Bob Palombo – DEA Agent Who Captured Griselda Blanco

Inside the Life ·

2025/12/18

In the final episode of Season 3, Giovanni and Dutch sit down with former Drug Enforcement Administration Associate Special Agent in Charge Bob Palombo. In a rare media appearance, Palombo details his impressive four-decade-long career with the DEA. From New York City street cases to multi-agency investigations like Operation Banshee, Palombo explains how relentless surveillance helped piece together a sprawling Colombian cocaine conspiracy — until one name on the indictment stood out: Griselda

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95:57

Pete Chin – Former Dai Lo of the Ghost Shadows

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2025/12/11

In this week’s episode of Inside the Life, Giovanni and Dutch are joined by Pete Chin, the former leader of the Ghost Shadows street gang. In this gripping conversation, Pete recounts his journey from a troubled childhood as a young Chinese immigrant in an abusive home to his violent rise as the leader of the most feared street gang in New York City’s Chinatown. Pete reflects on the brutal turf wars, the allure and cost of power, the RICO case that brought his world crashing down and the decades he

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56:03

Terry Rankhorn Part 2 – Going Undercover in a...

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2025/12/04

Undercover FBI agent Terry Rankhorn returns to Inside the Life to reveal the harrowing details of his three-year infiltration into one of the most dangerous al-Qaida cells operating after 9/11. In this episode, Terry recounts the moment a routine three-day assignment turned into a life-altering mission that demanded a new identity, a new religion and constant proximity to violent extremists. Terry, Giovanni and Dutch explore the training and mindset needed to survive deep undercover work. About

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96:39

Michael Dowd – Former NYPD Officer Known as ‘New...

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2025/11/27

This week on Inside the Life, Giovanni and Dutch face corruption in law enforcement head-on as they sit down with disgraced former NYPD officer Michael Dowd. An officer for the now notorious 75th precinct in Brooklyn, New York, Dowd owns up to his crimes and mistakes and shares how he went from a motivated young officer to a narcotics dealer during an era of scandal for the NYPD. Through a tense episode, Giovanni and Dutch express the dangers of working alongside corrupt officers, while Michael

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69:33

Jake Adelstein – Japanese Yakuza Expert and Author of...

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2025/11/20

For the first time on Inside the Life, Giovanni and Dutch speak with a member of the news media, investigative journalist Jake Adelstein. Living and working in Japan for more than 30 years, including on the crime beat for Japanese newspaper Yomiuri Shimbun, Adelstein details the unique relationship he fostered with law enforcement and the many yakuza syndicates he covered as a journalist. Depicted in HBO’s 2022 “Tokyo Vice” series, Adelstein also shares the real story of his groundbreaking

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56:41

Anthony Arillotta – Former Crime Boss of the Genovese...

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2025/11/13

This week on Inside the Life, Anthony Arillotta, former boss of the Genovese crime family’s Springfield, Massachusetts crew, reveals how he rose through the ranks of one of America’s most powerful Mob organizations. Surrounded by Mob figures from an early age, Arillotta’s path to illicit power began after a prison stint led to key underworld connections and a profitable marijuana business. His underworld success caught the attention of the Genovese family leadership and soon, he was inducted as a

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94:25

Tonesa Welch – Former First Lady of the Black Mafia...

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2025/11/06

This week on Inside the Life, Tonesa Welch, known as the First Lady of the Black Mafia Family, shares her journey and opens up about her pivotal role in Detroit’s illegal drug trade and the lasting legacy of BMF. As a key figure who helped connect Terry “Southwest Tee” and Demetrius “Big Meech” Flenory with major suppliers, Tonesa served 30 months in prison for her involvement. Today, she has transformed her life, becoming a passionate advocate for victims of domestic violence and prison

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73:31

Scott Payne – FBI Agent Who Went Undercover to Expose...

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2025/10/30

Welcoming their former colleague to the show, Giovanni and Dutch sit down with ex-FBI undercover agent Scott “Big Country” Payne on this episode of Inside the Life. After publishing his 2025 book “Code Name: Pale Horse,” Scott joins the podcast to share more about his most prolific case, the 2019 investigation and infiltration of a Georgia-based cell of The Base, a white nationalist accelerationist paramilitary group. Describing the case as a seven month “roller coaster,” Scott details key markers

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75:49

Justin “Mooch” DeLoretto – Ex-Mongols Chapter...

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2025/10/23

In the first episode of Inside the Life’s third season, Giovanni and Dutch welcome former Mongols Motorcycle Club Oregon and Missouri chapter president Justin “Mooch” DeLoretto. As the first patched outlaw motorcycle club member on Inside the Life, Justin shares how he went from a teen in the hardcore music scene to chapter president of for one of the most well-known one-percenter clubs in motorcycle history, while simultaneously getting his Master of Social Work. Sitting down in The Mob Museum’s

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54:43

Terry Rankhorn – Pioneer in Cybercrime Undercover...

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2025/07/10

Terry Rankhorn is a legend in the world of undercover work. In his over 20-year career with the FBI, Rankhorn was one of the first FBI undercover operatives to infiltrate major computer hacking groups, including organizations such as Global Hell and The Keebler Elves. The pioneering work he did investigating cybercrime established precedent that is still used today. In this episode of Inside the Life, he speaks with Giovanni and Dutch about his career with the FBI and the vital role he played in

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01:58:21

Bob Delaney – The Story of an Undercover Agent Turned...

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2025/07/03

On a pioneering task force, Bob Delaney went from New Jersey State Trooper to undercover in some of the biggest east coast Mob families. In this episode, Delaney spoke to Giovanni and Dutch about how he was recruited to work undercover, the innerworkings of how he infiltrated the Genovese and Bruno Crime Families and his transition to high-profile NBA referee. Tune in for an incredibly insightful and inspirational episode. About Bob Delaney: Robert “Bob” Delaney rose to the top of two elite

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50:03

Myron Sugerman – The Jewish Mobster with an...

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2025/06/26

Myron Sugerman’s 60-year career as an international mobster in the business of slot machines and casinos took him all over the world, learning from notorious Mob figures such as Abner “Longie” Zwillman and Meyer Lansky. In this episode of Inside the Life, Sugerman takes us through his journey from following in his father’s footsteps to carving his own path in the illegal gaming business and gives insights into the inner workings of the Jewish Mob. About Myron Sugerman: Myron Sugerman was born in

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01:34:18

Mike Moy – Ex-Fuk Ching Gang Member Turned NYPD...

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2025/06/19

Mike Moy was only 16 years old when he joined the Brooklyn faction of the Fuk Ching gang. In this episode of Inside the Life, Moy shares stories of his upbringing and the events that led him to change his trajectory and join the NYPD. Having had the unique experience of operating on both sides of the law, Moy gives us a first-hand look into the secretive underworld of New York’s Chinatown.About Mike Moy: Mike Moy is a former NYPD detective and a former member of the Fuk Ching gang in Chinatown. He

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01:08:38

Pierre “Pete” Charette – The Undercover DEA Agent Who...

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2025/06/12

A native of Quebec, Canada, Pete Charette tells his story of becoming the Drug Enforcement Administration’s go-to French speaking agent, traveling across the globe for DEA undercover operations. In this episode, Pete, often known as “Frenchy,” unfolds how he posed as a Corsican mobster and infiltrated the international narcotics trafficking network now known as “the French Connection.”About Pete Charette: Pierre "Pete" Charette’s adventures spanned a heart-pounding 33 years as a police officer,

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01:23:05

Michael Corleone Blanco – Author and Son of...

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2025/06/05

Michael Corleone Blanco didn’t have a typical childhood. As the youngest son of “Cocaine Godmother” Griselda Blanco, his earliest memories of his life include stories of family love and loyalty, opulence and violence. In this gripping episode, Corleone Blanco tells his story of growing up amongst the Medellín Cartel and the operations of his mother’s own cocaine distribution business and reflects on how his experiences have shaped who he is today. About Michael Corleone Blanco: Born August 5,

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01:18:29

Michele Rigby Assad – Former CIA Operative and Author

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2025/05/29

In this rare appearance from a former Central Intelligence Agency operative, Michele Rigby Assad details how she, as a young woman from small town America, went on to work in one of the world’s most misunderstood and dangerous geopolitical climates — the Middle East. Working across a handful of undisclosed locations throughout the Arab world, Rigby Assad shares the difficulties she faced while successfully infiltrating and gathering intelligence from terrorist cells known for their stern

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01:46:12

Anthony Ruggiano Jr. – Ex-Mob Associate's Journey...

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2025/05/22

In this episode, Anthony Ruggiano Jr. details his life as son of Gambino enforcer and hitman Anthony “Fat Andy” Ruggiano. From a teen partying at the Copacabana, to his severe struggle with drug addiction and years in witness protection, this episode is an honest look at Ruggiano Jr.’s journey through a life of money, power, greed and redemption. Now decades out of the Mob life, he has found purpose through reform and sobriety. About Anthony Ruggiano Jr.: Anthony Ruggiano Jr., once a proposed

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01:16:44

Steve Murphy – The DEA Agent Who Helped Take Down...

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2025/05/16

Sitting down with Giovanni and Dutch, Steve Murphy shares his journey from being a police officer in a town of fewer than 20,000 people to becoming one of the DEA agents most synonymous with the takedown of narco-terrorist and Medellín Cartel kingpin Pablo Escobar. A story best known for its depiction in Netflix’s hit series Narcos, Murphy provides intimate insights into life in Colombia during its most violent years, as he and partner Javier Peña pursued Escobar alongside the Colombian National

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01:18:59

Jay Dobyns – ATF Agent Responsible for Infiltrating...

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2024/08/01

In this episode, retired Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) agent Jay Dobyns sits down with Giovanni and Dutch to share how he went from getting shot on his fourth day on the job to successfully infiltrating the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club under the alias Jaybird Davis, the gunrunner. Having previously worked on outlaw motorcycle club cases themselves, Giovanni and Dutch share their own insights into just how violent and dangerous these organizations can be. Dobyns also talks about his other

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01:08:05

Lew Rice – Former DEA SAC on His Time in NYC, Miami,...

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2024/07/25

Long inspired by his father, a Harlem NYPD detective, and confronted by the 1970s heroin epidemic in New York City which affected many of his young-adult peers returning from the Vietnam War, Lew Rice found his calling with the Drug Enforcement Administration in 1974. In this episode, Rice describes his journey with the DEA, highlighting his undercover experiences and how he worked his way through the ranks to supervisory roles, all while sharing the best advice he received along the way. He also

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