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Evening Double

The Evening Double Podcast Network

The Evening Double is a podcast centered around running, ambition, discipline, and the stories behind the miles. Each episode brings honest conversations with athletes, coaches, and full-time workers chasing big goals both in and outside the sport. From balancing careers and training to mindset and competition, the show dives into what fuels high performers. Real conversations, good energy, and a great listen on your evening double. Hosted by Keeton Thornsberry, Erik Stauderman, and Ryan Carney

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01:12:44

#044: James McKirdy of McKirdy Trained

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2026/10/06

We had James McKirdy on the pod for episode 44 of the Evening Double! James started McKirdy trained in 2016, which has turned into one of the largest coaching platforms in the country with elite runners at 2:04 under him.After COVID, he also started a micro running series, which still goes on today in Rockland, New York!We discussed what his training philosophies look like, what it's like putting on a race that is specifically to help runners hit the OTQ time and what pieces of advice he has for

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01:06:30

#043: London Marathon Date Decided on Rock, Paper,...

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2026/10/02

This is not a joke, Sebastian Sawe and Catherine Debrunner played a best out of 3 game of rock, paper, scissors to determine which day the men's elite and which day the women's elite fields will run in the 2027 London Marathon?!Nike drops a bomb in the supershoe game coming out with the Apex, available January 2027 and the Swooshfly coming out in February 2027.Does needling work? What counts as a tempo? Threshold?Where is our training 5 weeks out from Indy? All these questions and more

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01:15:51

#042: Matt Roe - Director of XC and T&F at Butler...

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2026/09/29

We had one of the most passionate college coaches in the country on the pod in episode 42 with Coach Matt Roe of Butler University.Coach Roe began at Butler in 2007 and has helped coach over 50 All-Americans, countless Big East titles and sustain a program in the top 20 in the country over the last several years.Coach Roe knows it isn't easy getting the highest rating recruits to Butler and explains how their system of developing the athletes year over year has proven successful for them.Tune in to

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01:08:21

#041: World Road Running Champs Recap, Strength...

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2026/09/25

Tune in to episode 41 to hear all of our takes on the World Road Running Champs! From the upset in the 5K to Almgren's historic performance in the half.Could Vinny Mauri be the best American distance runner of all time? Keeton thinks so if he can keep training the way he is.Biggest question of the pod: Does strength training make you slower?? Hear out takes on this and some of the discussion might make you start thinking differently than normal.Check out Keeton's coaching

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01:12:13

#040: Ethan Shuley - From Injury Prone and 60 Mile...

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2026/09/23

Ethan Shuley joined the Evening Double for episode 40! Ethan grew up in Northern Kentucky and ran 2:07:14 in February 2026 at the Osaka Marathon in Japan.We discussed Ethan's journey from a high school runner, to his mission in Western Ukraine for two years before attending BYU with teammates Connor Mantz, Clayton Young and Rory Linkletter to name a few.Ethan went from being injury prone, running 60 mile weeks and on the verge of quitting running to, at the time, running the 6th fastest American

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01:10:05

#039: Berlin Marathon Preview and How to Mentally...

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2026/09/21

On this episode, Ryan did a one-on-one with Chris Striegel who is officially in Berlin Marathon week!We dove in to what it's been like having a marathon build for an earlier fall marathon and training through the summer heat. He also did this build while juggling a newborn and doing a lot of his runs midday in the sun.He's been feeling alot of fatigue the last couple of weeks of this build and struggling to hit a couple workouts near the end and we did a deep dive into what this may be and

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01:16:50

#038: Alphafly 4's Overrated? World Running Champs...

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2026/09/19

Listen to our takes on the new Nike Alphafly 4 release and why we think Nike took a different approach to this shoe than many other companies are taking.We're officially only 7 weeks out from Indy and 11 weeks out from CIM. The fall marathon season goes fast and tune in to hear where we're at in training, what workouts we've been doing and tune-up races before the A-race.Erik's 100-Hole Hike Donation LinkErik's 100-Hole Hike Pledge FormCheck out the Erik's coaching at

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01:08:35

#037: Adam Kiesler - Director of T&F / XC at Murray...

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2026/09/16

Adam Kiesler, Murray State's Director of Track & Field and Cross Country joined the pod!Adam is in year 16 with the program and his 8th as the director over everything. After competing for Michigan T&F in college, he quickly knew he wanted to become a coach.We discussed everything from what he looks for in an athlete during recruiting, what major changes he's seen in college athletics over the last 5-10 years and what is was like coaching athletes who went to the Olympic trails.If

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01:18:55

#036: Ryan Carney on Shoes, Treadmill Threshold and...

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2026/09/13

On this episode we had good friend Ryan Carney back on the pod! Ryan is full of running knowledge with being in the sport for over 25 years now.We discussed how he’s structuring his training differently from last year’s Indianapolis marathon block and why adding some new variances are beneficial.We also talked about his favorite shoes he’s had, the best workout shoes, best trainers and best overall shoe company right now.We closed it out talking about the benefits of threshold treadmill workouts and

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01:00:54

#035: How a Shift in Mindset Can Lead to Faster Race...

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2026/09/09

On episode 35 we discussed the mental side of running and how a change in mindset may help improve your race times, without a change in training.We also discussed how to structure a week, Erik talked about his 3 week training rotation and Keeton discussed why hitting race pace on workouts may not actually be the key to success.We closed the episode out answering some questions sent in and the non-negotiables in training. Check out the Erik's coaching at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Stridecorefit.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check

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01:02:00

#034: How to Stay Motivated When the Going Gets Tough

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2026/09/05

Episode 34 was full of insights of how to stay motivated when you either don't have a race on the schedule, the heat is kicking your butt or getting through the freezing cold in the winter.We also broke down Clayton Young's American record attempt in Chicago and why we feel the record may fall, but it not be him taking it.We also talked through some of our training updates and Keeton's Cow Harbor 10K on deck. Jacob Ingebrigtsen's Interview Check out the Erik's coaching at

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00:50:57

#033: Louisville Mayor Craig Greenberg on the...

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2026/09/03

On this episode, we had on Louisville Mayor, Craig Greenberg! Mayor Greenberg is an avid runner and began the Mayorthon running series throughout Louisville.He fell in love with the sport while attending the 100th Boston Marathon while at Harvard Law School and hasn't looked back since. While "running" for mayor, he actually ran through all of Louisville's 623 precincts!Hear why he thinks running and staying active is so essential for everyone and how it helps build community on

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01:18:49

#032: A Champion Sidelined, US Running on the Rise...

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2026/08/28

Episode 32 was full of all the latest running news from Sawe pulling out of Berlin, Rupp breaking the American masters half marathon record and Americans taking 2-3-4 at the Lausanne Diamond League 5K. We ended with Keeton talking how his training for his sub 63 minute half marathon attempt in November is going and Erik reflects on being humbled at the Habanero 100 Miler.Check out the Erik's coaching at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Stridecorefit.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out Keeton's coaching ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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01:00:18

#031 Habanero Recap with 2025 Champ German "Bam" Garcia

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2026/08/26

Erik may have DNF'd the Habanero 100, but Bam certainly didn't. He's a 7 time finisher of the race, starting with the 100K up to the 135 miler this year.He shares all of his insights into the ultramarathoning world. What works for him in pacing, fueling and staying coolAs someone who is a recovering alcoholic, running has been a great way to cope with that addiction and life. Tune in to hear his story and learn about all things Habanero and ultramarathoning!German's InstagramHabanero

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00:36:12

#030: Habanero Hundred Miler Preview

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2026/08/18

This was an Erik solo pod talking all things Habanero Hundred Miler. From training to race strategy; fueling tactics to dealing with the heat, this episode has a little bit of everything leading into the race.This will be Erik's first 100 miler and with a 20 hour goal, he may find himself in the mix at the top if all goes well throughout the race. Tune in for the preview and stay for the recap next week!Habanero Hundred WebsiteCheck out the Erik's coaching at

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01:09:56

#029: Freestyle Q&A with Chris Striegel

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2026/08/14

On this episode we had good friend Chris Striegel back on the podcast for a fun freestyle Q&A episode!Chris is full of running knowledge and we got all his takes on the current state of running and everything surrounding it!Check out the Erik's coaching at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Stridecorefit.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out Keeton's coaching ⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chris's Strava⁠⁠Keeton's Strava⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Erik's Strava⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Evening Double

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01:05:22

#028: Why the Doping Ban for Jonah Koech Is a Wake-Up...

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2026/08/13

Episode #028 of The Evening Double highlights all the new running news including one of the largest US running doping scandals ever.We give our takes on what this means, what Ingebrigtsen's 5K win means for everyone else and Truett Hane's OTQ journey.We also talk our training, what's working, what's not and our plans as the fall season is right around the corner.Check out the Erik's coaching at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Stridecorefit.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out Keeton's coaching ⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Keeton's

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01:08:01

#027: Matt Muller - Owner of Ken Combs Run Store

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2026/08/07

Have you ever wondered what it's like to own a small business competing against the big dogs? Matt Muller, owner of Ken Combs Running Store in Louisville, Kentucky takes us through exactly what it's like.He talks about what brands he's had the most success with, how to retain customers and why exceptional service makes their store unique to major retailers.Matt is also running the NYC Marathon is 2026 supporting the Breakthrough T1D Charity, which supports people with Type 1 Diabetes

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00:57:08

#026: Track Night Recap & How to Structure your Weeks...

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2026/08/04

Check out the Erik's coaching at ⁠⁠⁠Stridecorefit.com⁠⁠⁠Check out Keeton's coaching ⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠ On this episode we recapped track night with Erik setting a PR but not quite hitting his goal. He's not done with speed, with one last mile time trial coming up a few days before his 100 miler at the end of the month.We talked Commonwealth games with Kerr continuing his dominance and the return of the king, Jakob Ingebrigtsen announcing his return.Some questions we posed to think about:Do you

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01:05:27

#025: Fall Race Training has Arrived

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2026/07/31

Check out the Erik's coaching at ⁠⁠Stridecorefit.com⁠⁠Check out Keeton's coaching HERE⁠⁠ On this episode we talked all things running news including a 24-year-old Pro athlete now running at the University of Texas, the commonwealth games and how fast we think a human can get.Erik won the MJ5K, but had to race hard to earn it and what he took away from it going into his track 5K PR attempt this weekend.Keeton is back from his short offseason and started his sub 63 half marathon build. Listen

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