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PODCAST

Hangar DX Podcast

The Hangar DX podcast focuses on developer experience and learning how different companies solve developer productivity challenges at scale. www.aviator.co/podcast

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42:16

Software Engineering Identity Crisis with Annie Vella

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2025/11/13

“Many of us became software engineers because we found our identity in building things. Not managing things. Not overseeing things. Building things. With our own hands, our own minds, our own code.But that identity is being challenged.”In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Annie Vella about the software engineer’s identity crisis, why engineers are so attached to writing code, and how they can prepare for a rapidly evolving future.00:00

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35:47

Agent Experience and the Future of Web Development...

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2025/10/30

“We're seeing the rise of a new persona that uses our products, the autonomous agent. That means we need to design for them, too. Agent Experience (AX) is about creating products that agents can navigate, integrate with, and orchestrate effectively.”In this episode, Matt Biilmann, CEO and co-founder of Netlify, joins Ankit Jain, founder of Aviator, to unpack the next evolution in software: agent experience.Matt, known for coining the term Jamstack, shares how AI is transforming the way we

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38:15

DevEx Is About Making the Car Faster, Not the Driver

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2025/10/02

"Let’s not worry about how fast somebody can run. Let’s assume that they will be fast if they’re in a rocket."In this episode of The Hangar DX podcast, Shahab Malik, DevEx UX Researcher at JP Morgan Chase, discusses researching developers' needs and pain points in a 70,000-engineer organization and advocates for an enablement approach to developer productivity metrics. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and UX Research01:59 The Role of UX Research in Developer

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39:30

DevOps, AI, and the Future of Engineering with...

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2025/09/19

Patrick Debois—widely known as the “Godfather of DevOps” and co-author of The DevOps Handbook—joins Aviator CEO Ankit Jain on The Hangar DX Podcast to explore the parallels between the DevOps movement and today’s AI revolution.In this conversation, Patrick compares AI adoption to the early chaotic days of DevOps and shares his view on how developer roles are shifting from producers to supervisors of AI-generated code, why code reviews and specs still matter, and what the four key patterns

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38:09

Everything Wrong With Developer Productivity Metrics...

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2025/09/04

"Metrics will not measure developer productivity and will not solve your engineering organization’s problems", say Adam Berry, Staff Engineer at Netflix.Adam sits with Ankit Jain, host of The Hangar DX podcast, to discuss one of the most debated topics in engineering: developer productivity metrics.Adam shares why metrics like the DORA4 were never meant to measure individual productivity, how trust (or lack of it) inside organizations changes the way metrics are used, and why managers often

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40:32

The Future of Engineering Leadership in the Age of AI

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2025/08/21

"In the next 10-15 years, I'm either going to be a CTO cleaning up after AI, or maybe there won't be people like me anymore because we're just going to write the specs and generate the whole app from scratch every time"In this episode of The Hangar DX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Meri Williams, CTO at @pleo_io , about what the future looks like for engineering managers in the age of AI coding.Meri also shares why engineering organizations can't thrive

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37:50

Developer Experience in the Age of AI with Chris...

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2025/08/07

“What’s your AI strategy’ is the wrong question for engineering leaders. A better one would be: “What are you doing to improve engineering efficiency by 15–20%?”You don’t have to chase AI just for AI’s sake. Instead, focus on the biggest pain point, on whatever is slowing your teams down. In most orgs, it has nothing to do with needing faster typers.”In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Chris Westerhold, Global Practice Director for

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47:34

The Limitations of Platform Engineering with Vilas...

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2025/07/24

What Actually Is Platform Engineering? Platform engineering is everywhere — but is it just DevOps with a new name? In this candid conversation, Ankit Jain sits down with Vilas Veeraghavan (ex-Walmart, ex-Amazon) and Bryan Finster (platform advocate and continuous delivery expert) to break down the truth behind the hype.🔍 In this episode:00:00 What is Platform Engineering 05:53 DevOps is alive and well11:51 Challenges in Platform Engineering: Adoption vs. Enablement14:51 Standardization in

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44:53

Measuring Cycle Time with Dr. Cat Hicks

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2025/06/20

Dr. Cat Hicks, a psychologist researching software teams, on what cycle time can and can't measure, why software metrics are hard, and why developers feel their work is invisible. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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38:58

Fearless deployments with Charity Majors

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2025/06/16

Charity Majors, CTO at Honeycomb, on the importance of creating a culture where shipping code is a regular, expected practice, and how organizations can transition to continuous deployment. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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29:32

Developer Experience and AI in GovTech with Tracy...

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2025/06/06

Seasoned technologist Tracy Bannon from MITRE discusses the role of software engineering, developer experience and AI in government tech. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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43:04

Psychological Safety and Fear in Engineering with...

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2025/05/22

Titus Winters from Adobe discussed the role of psychological safety and culture as the foundation for high-performing engineering teams. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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36:13

Mobile Developer Experience at Pinterest

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2025/05/08

Ryan discusses DevEx organization structure, the unique challenges of mobile development, the evolution of mobile tooling, and practices that enable a successful release cycle. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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41:21

How Slack uses AI to improve DevEx with Sridhar...

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2025/05/01

Ankit and Sridhar discuss the evolution of Developer Experience (DevEx) at Slack, challenges faced when experimenting with AI, and its significant role in improving developer workflows. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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35:50

Being a DevEx PM with Ricky Huynh from Walmart

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2025/04/25

Ricky Huynh, DevEx Product Manager at Walmart, shares insights into the world of Developer Experience, understanding developer needs, user feedback, and the future of developers and product managers. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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43:51

The Evolution of Platform Engineering with Luca Galante

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2025/04/11

Ankit and Luca discuss the evolving landscape of platform engineering, its relationship with DevOps, and the necessity of Internal Developer Platforms (IDPs) in enhancing developer productivity. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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35:58

Code Reviews with Adrienne Tacke, author of Looks...

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2025/03/27

Ankit speaks with Adrienne Tacke about the intricacies of code reviews, their importance in developer experience, and how to use metrics effectively without compromising the review process. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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35:40

Python for organizations with Josh Cannon from Anthropic

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2025/02/12

Ankit speaks with Josh Cannon from Anthropic about the evolution and current state of Python, including its use in monorepos, the role of Pants, and challenges faced at scale. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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35:55

Productivity dilemma while scaling companies with...

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2025/02/05

In this episode of the Hangar DX Podcast, Ankit speaks with Cathy Nunez from Confluent about the challenges of developer productivity as organizations scale. Cathy shares her insights on the meaning of developer productivity, the importance of measuring it effectively, and the tools and processes that can enhance it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co

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35:03

The Hidden Cost of Bazel with Alex Eagle from Aspect...

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2024/12/20

In this episode of the Hangar DX Podcast, Ankit Jain and Alex Eagle discuss Bazel, a powerful build system that supports multiple programming languages. They explore the unique features of Bazel, when it’s appropriate to use, and how to get started with implementation. They also cover challenges of migrating to Bazel, quantifying its value, and maintaining a healthy build system. Alex shares insights on improving modularity, managing dependencies, and the importance of standardization in enhancing

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