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Safe Aerospace Podcast

Americans for Safe Aerospace

What are pilots really seeing in our skies, and why aren"t we talking about it? The Safe Aerospace Podcast brings together military aviators, commercial pilots, air traffic controllers, aerospace professionals, and policymakers to tackle one of aviation"s most pressing and least discussed challenges: UAP (unidentified aerial phenomena) in controlled airspace. Hosted by Former F/A-18 pilot, Ryan Graves from Americans for Safe Aerospace, the podcast goes beyond the headlines to explore what UAP

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73:05

Black Triangles, Pilot Reports & the Search for UAP...

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2026/10/01

What are pilots reporting, and how do we turn those accounts into evidence we can study?I sit down with Jonathan Miller, known as JMill, to discuss his work on sensemaking and MIT's Confronting Unknowns program. We explore how researchers can study ambiguous data, separate signal from noise, and stay open to new information without jumping to conclusions.Then we turn the tables. JMill asks me about the encounters that led me to speak publicly, my 2023 congressional testimony, and the work

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58:06

SpaceShipOne Astronaut Saw a Dozen Glowing Spheres in...

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2026/09/24

A crashed spaceship. A career left in doubt. And six days later, a backyard full of light he couldn't explain.Brian Binnie was the second person to fly a private spacecraft to the edge of space — a Navy veteran with 33 combat missions, advanced degrees from Brown and Princeton, and the test pilot who flew the final flight of SpaceShipOne. Six days after a hard landing damaged its landing gear and left him wondering whether he would ever fly it again, Binnie described watching roughly a

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59:48

“That's No Balloon!”: F-18 Pilot Reconsiders His UAP...

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2026/09/11

Three passes. A persistent radar contact. A brief glimpse of something silvery off the wing.Former Navy F-18 pilot Austin Hulbert and his weapons systems officer called it a balloon and moved on. Years later, Austin started building stratospheric balloons for the military. That explanation no longer made sense to him.I sit down with Austin, one of my instructors during Navy flight training, to revisit his encounter off the coast of Virginia Beach and what changed his mind. We discuss what

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50:10

Former DISA Contractor Saw a UAP Live on an MQ-9 Feed...

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2026/09/03

What did a defense network engineer see while monitoring U.S. military drone feeds over the waters of East Asia?I sit down with former Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) contractor Kevin Campbell, who supported satellite communications and monitored MQ-9 feeds from Hill Air Force Base. Kevin says he encountered several clips of unidentified objects in the East China Sea and Yellow Sea region—including one event he watched live. He describes a roughly spherical object moving just

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76:35

Intel Officers Saw a Massive Craft Over Cheyenne...

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2026/08/20

What really happened over Cheyenne Mountain in February 2022?Ryan Graves sits down with former Army intelligence officer Caison Best, whose own unexplained broad-daylight sighting of a massive craft led him on a journey through the military and federal intelligence apparatus. After attempting to report the incident through official channels, Caison navigated an investigation by the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) before engaging in an in-depth inquiry conducted by the

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91:37

Phantom NJ Swarms: Uncovering 13,000 UAP Police...

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2026/07/28

What really happened during the 2024 New Jersey drone wave?Ryan Graves sits down with AI researcher John Malaska, whose own unexplained thermal-camera sighting led him to investigate the incidents through public records. After contacting municipalities across New Jersey, John assembled approximately 13,000 records—including police reports, dispatch logs, emails, body-camera transcripts, drone telemetry, and government intelligence reports—and used AI to identify patterns within the data.Our

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81:14

"The Size of a 737": Marine Fighter Pilot Benjamin...

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2026/07/14

A veteran Marine F-18 Hornet pilot, a commercial airliner climbing out of Houston, and an object "the size of a 737" hovering motionless between cloud layers — with air traffic control confirming an uncorrelated target that had been "popping on and off the scope all day." In this episode of the Safe Aerospace Podcast, former Navy F/A-18F pilot Ryan Graves talks with Benjamin Read, an 18-year Marine Corps aviator turned commercial airline captain, about the encounter that turned a lifelong

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74:35

Inside the Radar Room: 26-Year Air Traffic Controller...

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2026/07/10

What do air traffic controllers actually see on their scopes when pilots report unidentified aerial phenomena? In the premiere episode of the Safe Aerospace Podcast, former U.S. Navy F/A-18F pilot Ryan Graves sits down with Jason Judy, a 26-year FAA air traffic controller turned corporate pilot, for a rare inside look at how UAP appear — and disappear — inside America's air traffic control system.Jason pulls back the curtain on what controllers discuss off-frequency: near misses with

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