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Hollow Hype

Elizabeth Nelson

Ann Arbor, Michigan is one of the most educated communities in the country, but its local government was taken in by a twice convicted felon. In California, Heidi went to prison for fraud. In West Virginia, she was convicted of conspiracy to commit money laundering and narrowly avoided prison. Beginning in 2020, elected leaders and City staff in Ann Arbor promoted Heidi"s businesses and embraced her as a community partner. Former Ann Arbor City Council Member Elizabeth Nelson shares what happened in

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23:24

“Bespoke Financial Advisory”

Hollow Hype ·

2026/10/06

In a matter of weeks, the bankruptcy of Southtown will be resolved, dismissed, or carry on. Potential investors come from Las Vegas and Dubai. If they come through as promised, Heidi stands to gain up to $17 million.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comFree webinar - Debt Solutions Service.com - Philip Ahmadzai (Oct 9, 2013)https://youtu.be/KvBVrwldhAsDebt Solutions - Philip Ahmadzai - Las

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25:01

“Is the money going to be there?”

Hollow Hype ·

2026/09/29

Heidi and Marge had a lavish lifestyle, even as the finances of Southtown were collapsing. Heidi has maintained that lifestyle even through bankruptcy. Details about Marge’s death are still not known.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comHotel Le Meuricehttps://www.lartisien.com/hotel/le-meuriceBarton Hills, Michiganhttps://www.zillow.com/home-values/37293/barton-hills-ann-arbor-mi/

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23:17

“The wave of the future”

Hollow Hype ·

2026/09/22

Heidi is persistent in pushing people to give her what she wants. Filing mistakes delay a plan for the Southtown bankruptcy. People from the past are reluctant to come forward and Marge’s friends have questions.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comU.S. Senate Session, March 30, 2000https://www.c-span.org/program/senate-proceeding/senate-session/100856U.S. House Session, May 25,

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23:59

“Less than good reputations”

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2026/09/15

A new site plan for Southtown is approved, despite unpaid property taxes. Heidi shares a misleading appraisal to investors. In three states, Heidi has looked to elected leaders to help her get money.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comAnn Arbor City Planning Commission meeting (April 7, 2026)https://youtu.be/69FQskDAKF4Ann Arbor City Council meeting (June 15,

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20:34

“It’s how much? 13 million”

Hollow Hype ·

2026/09/08

Plans to resolve the Southtown bankruptcy would direct millions in cash or equity interest to Heidi, through Marge’s estate. Heidi gains control of businesses that she and Marge built together.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comGreen Home Institute: Imagine Housing as a Service (May 2020)https://youtu.be/PEpZoyLcAtE4M City Club and the 15-minute neighborhood (June

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24:21

“Compelling equity investment opportunity”

Hollow Hype ·

2026/09/01

Southtown needs investors. After Marge’s death, Heidi leads the Southtown bankruptcy. The development is appraised at such a high value that money from investors could pay off all creditors.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comAnn Arbor City Planning Commission Meeting (April 7, 2026)https://youtu.be/69FQskDAKF4Southtown site plan (April

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23:09

“The most diverse Council we’ve had in Ann Arbor...

Hollow Hype ·

2026/08/25

Local news outlets ignore the Michigan Daily story about Heidi. She offers excuses and others in the community defend her. Heidi has built valuable relationships with elected leaders allied with the Mayor.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comDear Evanston: “Equity, campaign finance reform, and options for change” (April 2018)https://youtu.be/R8GkNV5edrEFox 2 Detroit (October 18,

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28:40

“I get a lot of calls from NIMBYs”

Hollow Hype ·

2026/08/18

Ann Arbor residents discover Heidi’s criminal record, but local news outlets won’t report on it. Elected leaders defend the money that got them elected and organize against campaign finance reform. After weeks of delay, student journalists at the Michigan Daily finally publish a story about Heidi.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comAnn Arbor City Council approves exclusive negotiations to

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23:57

“I understand, like, less than 50% of it”

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2026/08/11

Ann Arbor City Planning Commission and City Council approve a new plan for Southtown. Dr. Missy Stults (director of Sustainability and Innovations for the City) relies on Heidi’s promises for cleaner fuel. Local environmentalists question the plan. Heidi’s former architect says it won’t work.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comA2 New Tech meeting at The Henry (September 21,

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25:45

“Stop being part of the lies”

Hollow Hype ·

2026/08/04

Ann Arbor City Council unanimously approves Heidi’s plan for Southtown. City staff recommend negotiating the sale of public property to Heidi’s company, 4M. When residents question the non-competitive deal and the fact that Heidi is a campaign donor to City leaders, she lashes out.If you know something about Heidi’s activities in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, or California, please email:HollowHypePodcast@gmail.comPublic engagement meeting at Venue (April 4,

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20:27

“We can sell that together”

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2026/07/28

Residents question Heidi’s plan for more Airbnb near the stadium. Heidi reinvents herself as a sustainability expert to align with power players at Ann Arbor City Hall. Twenty years earlier, Heidi’s broadband scheme was endorsed by members of Congress from both Ohio and West Virginia.Ann Arbor City Council meeting (May 3, 2021)https://youtu.be/MYwyZAJsZO4Ann Arbor City Council meeting (August 7, 2023)https://youtu.be/OdWTqtEnrdsPublic engagement meeting for Southtown (September 21,

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27:38

“They’re owed their dues, right? Risk, reward”

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2026/07/21

Heidi hires a member of the City Planning Commission in Ann Arbor to design her next projects: a former grocery store and more short term rentals in a development covering an entire block. Heidi’s wife Marge takes the lead in promoting a rebranded business.2021 amendments to Ann Arbor short term rental ordinance (May 3, 2021)https://a2gov.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=4892427&GUID=B937507A-2A1C-4FEB-8F94-9692ED9EBB88&FullText=1Lisa Sauve joins Ann Arbor Planning commission

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23:16

“Emergent Industry”

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2026/07/14

A new Ann Arbor City Council majority wants to weaken the STR ordinance, in order to protect Heidi’s businesses. When then Council Member Elizabeth Nelson publicizes her concerns, the FBI visits her at home. Ann Arbor City Council meeting minutes (January 6, 2020)https://a2gov.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=M&ID=737701&GUID=2D1F0EB0-3191-498A-A936-E08ED71D51DEAnn Arbor City Council Resolution sponsored by Mayor Taylor (December 21,

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22:17

“I don’t mean a bribe”

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2026/07/06

Ann Arbor City Council considers a regulation that would impact Heidi’s short term rental business. She makes a desperate phone call to then Council Member Elizabeth Nelson.Public meetings re: short term rentals (October 2019)https://a2elnel.com/post/city-to-hold-public-meetings-in-october-about-short-term-rental-regulation/Resolution directing regulation (January 2020)https://a2gov.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=4286174&GUID=7FF5FC94-EED2-4D64-99C3-901D0AD3CE8DOrdinance

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18:57

“Investors are pocketing the difference”

Hollow Hype ·

2026/07/06

Heidi was still on probation when she bought her first property in Ann Arbor. Local residents noticed that she was converting homes and apartments into short term rentals (Airbnb). Burns Park & Lower Burns Park (Ann Arbor)https://annarborobserver.com/guide/burns-park-4/Heidi’s portfoliohttps://www.staysby4m.com/our-listingsMeet Kurt Berggrenhttps://aadl.org/N127_0056_073https://www.legalnews.com/Home/Articles?DataId=1002784Ann Arbor City Council resolution calling for study of short

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20:18

“Don’t you know? Developers lie”

Hollow Hype ·

2026/07/06

In her first few months on Ann Arbor City Council, Elizabeth Nelson met Heidi, a twice convicted felon who was eager to influence policy at City Hall. In their very first conversation, Heidi didn’t tell the truth. Heidi’s Henry Street project in Ann Arbor:https://www.nuveen.com/greencapital/the-henryMLive/Ann Arbor News coverage of the Henry Street project:https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2019/02/group-living-with-co-working-space-for-young-professionals-coming-to-ann-arbor.html1980

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