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Working Together

Welcome to the Brick & Wonder podcast, where we delve into the art and science of collaboration within the built environment industry. Hosted by Drew Lang, founder of Brick & Wonder, this podcast explores the stories and strategies behind successful collaborations that drive innovation and shape the built world around us. Join us as we sit down with interdisciplinary professionals at the forefront of their fields, uncovering the paths to effective collaboration and successful entrepreneurship

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Nick Schiffer & James Robb

Working Together ·

2025/10/28

Today on the Brick & Wonder podcast we sat down with custom home builder and industry thought leader Nick Schiffer and James Robb, co-founder of Madera, specialists in hardwood finishes.Recorded at 45 White Oak, an ambitioushome Nick has developed and built in Wellesley, Massachusetts, this candid conversation explores how to have challenging conversations with clients, the ups and downs of business ventures that don’t yet pencil, and their goal of productizing their practices to create more

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49:42

Sam Alison-Mayne & Jing Liu

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2025/09/23

This week on the Brick & Wonder podcast, we sat down with developer Sam Alison-Mayne ofTankhouseand architect Jing Liu ofSO-IL, whose long-running collaboration is reshaping multifamily housing in Brooklyn.Beginning with this episode, Ravi Arps joins as co-host of the podcast. Ravi is the founder and principal of Plane, a construction company based in New York City and the Hudson Valley.This episode is brought to you byReilly Architectural, known for their custom windows and doors, andMadera,

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49:22

Ravi Arps & Max Michel

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2025/08/28

This week we were joined by Ravi Arps, the founder and principal of Plane, a general contracting company, and Max Michel, the owner of M2 Finish Works, a cabinetry and finished carpentry contractor.They explore the shifting definition of perfection in handmade construction, building trust with clients and collaborators, and how an obsession with solving for scale in the industry keeps them up at night.This episode is brought to you by Reilly Architectural, known for their custom windows and doors,

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47:55

Seth Weissman & Josef Goodman

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2025/07/22

This week, we were joined by Seth Weissman, founder and president of Urban Standard Capital, a real estate private equity firm focused on debt and equity investments, and Josef Goodman, founder and principal of Haussmann Development, a New York City–based residential real estate developer.Seth shared that he aims to go on rewarding, challenging, and collaborative journeys with his clients—and to do so repeatedly with people he likes and trusts. He and Josef are longtime collaborators, having

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48:55

Brad Hargreaves & Paul Stanton

Working Together ·

2025/06/24

This week on the Working Together podcast we were joined by Brad Hargreaves, a serial entrepreneur whose latest company, Thesis Driven, publishes content and offers courses for people in or aspiring to be in real estate. And Paul Stanton, a real estate professional who came together with Brad in the Thesis Driven journey. Brad and Paul say the world needs ten times the number of real estate developers that are currently active, and they are hard at work making real estate development more

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19:42

Best of Working Together

Working Together ·

2025/05/27

This week on the Working Together podcast, we've pulled together standout moments from five of our favorite conversations, each one offering a unique perspective on the art, business, and human side of design and collaboration. Whether you're new to our show or a longtime listener, this episode is a chance to revisit big ideas and small moments that stuck with us and we think will resonate with you too.

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48:54

Walter Hood & Mark Robbins

Working Together ·

2025/04/10

Designing and constructing buildings takes place over many years, with many people collaborating together. In the Brick and Wonder podcast, we have conversations with people who work together to realize a collective vision. In this episode our host, Drew Lang, spoke to two people who first met at the American Academy in Rome and whose lifetime of work intersects in the public realm. Walter Hood, the landscape architect known for his cultural and civic work, and Mark Robbins, an architect and leading

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40:31

Kiki Dennis & Marc Leff

Working Together ·

2025/03/04

Designing and constructing buildings takes place over many years, with many people collaborating together. In the Brick and Wonder podcast, we have conversations with people who work together to realize a collective vision.In this episode our host, Drew Lang, was joined by two people whose collaborations evolved into years of partnership. Kiki Dennis, an interior designer and principal at TenBerke Architects, and Marc Leff an architect and principal at the firm.

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51:56

Robert A.M. Stern & Melissa DelVecchio

Working Together ·

2025/02/04

Designing and constructing buildings takes place over many years, with many people collaborating together. In the Brick and Wonder podcast, we have conversations with people who work together to realize a collective vision. This episode features two guests whose collaborations evolved into years of partnership.Our host, Drew Lang, was joined by Robert A.M. Stern, a celebrated architect, architectural writer and former dean at the Yale School of Architecture, and founder of Robert A.M. Stern

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39:31

Brand, Story and Space: An Integrated Approach to...

Working Together ·

2024/11/19

In this episode of Working Together, we spoke with two people who have come together in many successful project collaborations over time. Alexandra Thom, a brand strategist and the creative director at Revolver, a branding studio based in New York City, and Karen Zabarsky Blashek, a real estate strategist and founder of Ground Up, a consultancy based in Austin, Texas.

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39:47

Joy in Collaboration: Two Bay Area Designers Unified...

Working Together ·

2024/10/16

Our podcast delves into the art and science of collaboration within the built environment industry. Hosted byDrew Lang, founder of Brick & Wonder, we explore the stories and strategies behind successful collaborations that drive innovation and shape the built world around us.In this episode we moved the conversation to the west coast, where Drew spoke with two members who have come together in many successful project collaborations.Lisa Staprans, a San Francisco based interior designer andKarin

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28:30

An Architect, a Therapist, a Friend: How an Owner’s...

Working Together ·

2024/09/17

Welcome to the Brick & Wonder podcast, where we delve into the art and science of collaboration within the built environment industry. Hosted byDrew Lang, founder of Brick & Wonder, this podcast explores the stories and strategies behind successful collaborations that drive innovation and shape the built world around us.In this episode we spoke with two people who have come together in many successful project collaborations over time. Linda Cirigliano, an owner’s representative, and

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38:11

The Collaboration War Chest: How Networks Drive...

Working Together ·

2024/08/20

Welcome to the Brick & Wonder podcast, where we delve into the art and science of collaboration within the built environment industry. Hosted byDrew Lang, founder of Brick & Wonder, this podcast explores the stories and strategies behind successful collaborations that drive innovation and shape the built world around us.In this episode with spoke with two people who are currently working together on a residential project in Westchester, New York.John Patrick Winberry, a principal at theUp

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37:21

The Third Win: A New Business Model for Lighting Design

Working Together ·

2024/07/16

Welcome to the Brick & Wonder podcast, where we delve into the art and science of collaboration within the built environment industry. Hosted byDrew Lang, founder of Brick & Wonder, this podcast explores the stories and strategies behind successful collaborations that drive innovation and shape the built world around us.In this episode we spoke with two people who came together in a successful and enduring business consulting engagement. Matt Schroeder is the co-founder and CEO ofThe Cosine,

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29:47

A Passport to Usonia: Two perspectives on Frank Lloyd...

Working Together ·

2024/06/18

In this episode we spoke with two people whose values and objectives aligned to create a book about theUsonia residential community.Usonia was a planned community and is now a national historic district located in Mount Pleasant, New York, designed by Frank Lloyd Wright.Michael Biondois an architectural photographer who has extensively photographed the Usonia homes. Michael joined forces withGideon Fink Shapiro, an architectural historian and writer to put together a book celebrating the design and

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28:26

A Brooklyn Collaboration: Values-Driven Business in...

Working Together ·

2024/05/17

In this episode of Working Together we spoke with two people whose values and brands aligned in the construction of a Brooklyn condominium building350 Butler Street.Bill Caleois a real estate developer and the founder of theBrooklyn Home Company, andRachelle Louisis the Luxe Business Development Lead atJennAir Appliances.

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