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Dads And Daddies

Brian Rubin-Sowers and Judson Morrow

Dads and Daddies features frank, unrehearsed conversations between one Gen X Dad of two and one Millennial self-identified ‘Daddy,’ with a focus on their personal stories of sex, love and marriage, plus topics spanning parenthood, Daddyhood, family, friendship, identity, money, addiction & recovery, and so many more that reveal the deeply intimate details of what it means to live life as adult gay men today.

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All Episodes

01:30:59

Brian and Judson hookup with Ben Zumsteg and talk...

Dads And Daddies ·

2026/02/03

Judson is reflective after a trip to visit his mom, and shares a piece of American history he’s recently realized made a huge impact on his life. Brian has a record-breaking week of sex, between hookups, a party and his husband. An exquisitely written and performed Hookup of the Week tells the tale of a top who steps out of his comfort zone and into a submissive role in a public space. Brian and Judson are then joined by Ben Zumsteg, founder of Disco Fizz, a new premium non-alcoholic drink brand

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01:14:44

Brian and Judson talk Deshaming Sluttiness, Heated...

Dads And Daddies ·

2026/01/27

Brian and Judson discuss “Heated Rivalry” at long last. Judson makes a plan to meet up with a friend who he hasn’t seen or spoken with in over 15 years, and who is the last person to whom he has to make amends. Brian makes subtle changes in the bedroom that have significant payoff for his marital sex life, and offers an update to a controversial statement he made on an early episode of the podcast. The Hookup of the Week follows the adventures of two couples who meet at a Halloween party, and end up

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01:31:47

Brian and Judson hookup with Aidan Wharton and talk...

Dads And Daddies ·

2026/01/20

Judson celebrates his 43rd birthday. Brian shares a list of trans Girl Scouts from whom listeners can order cookies. Judson and Brian appear together on Brandon Kyle Goodman’s podcast, Tell Me Something Messy, and the conversation that ensues inspires them to consider a new business venture.The two receive an outrageously misguided pitch for a guest on the show. Brian struggles with how to label himself on the apps. Judson extols the virtues of flipping in bed. The Hookup of the Week becomes a Go

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01:18:21

Brian and Judson hookup with Robert Horn and talk the...

Dads And Daddies ·

2026/01/06

Judson prepares to celebrate his birthday. Brian attends his daughter’s first fashion show as a designer. Judson clarifies what he means when he uses the term “Duck Toast” to describe a man’s physique. Brian provides an update on the effect Lexapro is having on his sexual performance. The Hookup of the Week follows the international adventures of a listener who has opened his marriage after more than 20 years. Brian and Judson are then joined by Tony, Drama Desk, Outer Critics Circle and NY Drama

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01:16:13

Brian and Judson hookup with Michael Foote and talk...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/12/30

Brian reflects on the past year and shares his wishes for the year ahead. Holiday brain leads Judson down a rabbit hole reminiscing about the tabloid news of the 1990s.The Hookup of the Week features a validating public massage experience that opens up conversation between the listener and his husband. Brian and Judson are then joined by TikTok’s favorite anti-ICE activist and immigration attorney, Michael Foote. Michael talks about how the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) shares a memo with

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01:15:32

Brian and Judson hookup with Aaron Jackson and talk...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/12/23

Judson and his husband host an engagement/tree-trimming/Shabbat celebration with a Halloween theme. Brian and Judson’s husband have a clandestine meeting without them. Brian thinks he may have come out to his mother about his open marriage. A listener provides some important context around the use of SSRIs. The Hookup of the Week comes from a listener sharing a favorite memory of some public group sex that took him by surprise. They are then joined by actor, comedian and writer Aaron Jackson. Aaron

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01:42:17

Brian and Judson hookup with Jimin Moon, repeat with...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/12/16

Judson enjoys a hookup that goes past the typical twenty minutes and returns to his favorite gay event at his local bathhouse. Brian spends an evening with the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and tries to entice Judson to check out the show. The Hookup of the Week is a twofer from a Daddy who enjoys public sex. The two are then joined by rising Broadway star Jimin Moon, and returning guest Will Wikle, known first for his iconic time spent as a houseguest on Big Brother 5 in 2004, and now as a

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01:05:11

Friendly Fire with Brian and Judson, in which they...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/12/09

Judson attends the Christmas Spectacular starring the Radio City Rockettes for his first time. Brian is asked to define some key sexual vocabulary terms by his daughter. The two celebrate being named a 2025 Marathon Show, Talked About Show and Most Shared Show by Spotify. The Hookup of the Week comes from a listener who has found his role helping people explore their versatility. After the break, Brian shares two personal revelations about his mental and physical health, which together inspire his

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01:22:03

Brian and Judson hookup with Dr. Evan Goldstein and...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/12/02

Judson is riding high from a health rebound and a proud week at work. Brian’s daughters surprise him by saying and doing a number of things that speak both to their maturity and to their being raised by gay dads. The Hookup of the Week comes from a listener at the start of opening his marriage, who shares a fun night out with his husband and others during their anniversary trip to Puerto Vallarta. Brian and Judson are then joined by the leading anal health expert in the United States, Dr. Evan

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01:42:32

Brian and Judson hookup with Dr. Demetre Daskalakis...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/11/25

It is a momentous occasion when Judson wears an entirely black outfit. Brian takes his family to the fantastic new revival of The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee off-Broadway, where his daughter joins the cast for the afternoon. Judson crowdsources an internship for a new friend he met by chance over ramen. The Hookup of the Week comes from a sub who finds a deeper connection with one of his regular Doms. The two are then joined by Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, former director of the CDC’s National

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01:23:38

Brian and Judson hookup with James Nguyen and AC...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/11/18

Brian celebrates his first successful afternoon on the apps in six weeks, applying a lesson from a recent episode and proving a point he's made in others. Judson shares recommendations for Anthony Amiewalan’s novel Eddie & Alan, Michael Finkel’s biography of Stéphane Breitwieser, The Art Thief, Kaveh Akbar’s novel, Martyr!, and Nicholas Colia’s film, Griffin in Summer. Both hosts are tickled by the Hookup of the Week, which describes a listener's decision to throw himself a birthday party to

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01:42:24

Brian and Judson hookup with Jay Jurden and talk sex...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/11/11

Brian and Judson celebrate the victory of mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani and the fact that friend-of-the-podcast Brandon Kyle Goodman has extended their run in HEAUX CHURCH off-Broadway at Ars Nova through November 21. Brian raves about the Broadway play Liberation by Bess Wohl. Judson's trick is a treat on Halloween. Brian prepares for a sex party by listening back to his own advice on a previous episode and discovers he may, in fact, be vers. After listening to the Hookup of the Week, the two wax

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01:19:23

Brian and Judson hookup with Mike Albo and talk...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/11/04

It’s Dads and Daddies’ 75th episode! On it, Judson enjoys a repeat hookup with a neighbor and accompanies him to see comedian and artist Max Wittert perform. Brian looks forward to ending his hookup drought by attending his first sex party in months. Judson and Brian both reiterate their encouragement to all Dads and Daddies listeners to watch Netflix’s Boots, particularly after the Pentagon put out a statement against it. Judson and his husband are invited to be a Nielsen family. A previous “Hookup

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01:29:46

Brian and Judson hookup with Brandon Kyle Goodman and...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/10/28

Judson and his husband celebrate their 10th wedding anniversary in Eureka Springs, Arkansas, while Brian and his family discover a free gallery show featuring original works by Basquiat, Haring, Koons, Mapplethorpe, Sherman, Warhol, and more. The two hosts each go without physical release for longer than usual and expound on the joys of refraining. Brian then experiences a moment of undeniable divine intervention, and Judson starts his new job. They enjoy a pocket-sized Hookup of the Week about the

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01:05:04

Brian and Judson present their third Go Ask Your Dad...

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/10/21

Judson’s return from a trip to Southern California inspires a comparison of Los Angelenos and New Yorkers, and a conversation about how both Judson and Brian’s husband Toby are able to convince most who meet them that they are chill, when their husbands know otherwise. Brian observes Yom Kippur with Judson’s husband, and learns some words of wisdom that help him gain some perspective on how to exist in the current political climate. The two share their thoughts on Netflix’s Boots and Judson

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01:12:15

Brian and Judson talk Masculinity

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/10/14

Brian tests whether or not he can make a hookup happen in the limited time available to him while his daughter is at an appointment. Judson crosses state lines for a hookup and receives a cultural education. Brian’s family enjoys a week of the arts–a Chappell Roan concert, the Mamma Mia revival on Broadway, and the Gabby’s Dollhouse movie–and he provides his thoughts on each. Judson feels the “Hookup of the Week” in his heart more than his groin. The two then attempt to tackle the topic of

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56:47

Friendly Fire with Brian and Judson, Vol. 3

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/10/07

Judson recounts a weekend trip upstate and forgets an unforgettable hookup. Brian envies his husband's incredibly successful week of hookups, one so plentiful it allowed him to forget one, too. The two then commiserate about the preparation required for bottoming. Brian discusses his tenth trip to see "Oh, Mary!" and his fifth Mary, Jinkx Monsoon. Judson explains why he chose a trip to Arkansas to celebrate his tenth wedding anniversary. Both are very turned on by a "Hookup of the Week" that's far

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100:37

Brian and Judson hookup with Bryan Bance

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/09/30

Judson accepts a job offer and feels deep appreciation for all the support he received over his past few weeks of unemployment. Brian has found a new love in a sandwich he’s discovered near his office. Brian and Judson express their love for the trans community and ask how they can be best of service in these times of incredible oppression. The super-hot Hookup of the Week comes from a listener who attends Dads and Daddies friend DJ James Anthony’s new party, Unspeakable Joy, where he meets a pair

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102:03

Brian and Judson hookup with Darrell Martin

Dads And Daddies ·

2025/09/23

Judson gets his first tattoo and shares his feelings about hooking up with dog owners. Brian experiences a near-perfect hookup minutes before enduring a far-from-perfect parenting moment. They listen to a short-and-sweet Hookup of the Week that, while quick, was a year in the making. The two are then joined by psychotherapist and musician Darrell Martin. Darrell’s journey takes him from New York’s legendary ballroom scene, appearing in the landmark documentary "Paris Is Burning," to writing and

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