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It Might Get Weird: Journeys in Veterinary Medicine

Sara Rae & Gary Marshall, DVM

Welcome to "It Might Get Weird," the podcast where we dive into the journeys of veterinary professionals.Your hosts are Dr. Gary Marshall and Sara Rae.Gary has been a veterinarian for more than 35 years. Sara has been a veterinarian for zero years. That"s about to change and that"s why we"re here.Our main focus will be to follow Sara on adventures as a Washington State University class of 2028 veterinary student. We’ll be along for the ride as she encounters challenges, and celebrates triumphs

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38:51

S2 : E15 - Zonram in the House!! (Part 2)

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2026/03/09

Click here to text us your questions & comments. If the Zonram interview Part 1 was all about fun, Part 2 is all about wisdom. Dr. Zonram Liao shares more of his thoughts on community, culture, and of course grit. If you follow Z on social media and have only seen that goofy side of this man, please listen to this episode. In insights on what's the recipe for a wonderful, sustainable vet med, and his optimism for the future will truly have you wanting to send an appreciative fist-bump thr...

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30:51

S2 : E14 - Zonram in the House!! (Part 1)

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2026/02/28

Click here to text us your questions & comments. This week's guest is Dr. Zonram Liao. If you know Z, or know of Z, you know this is a fun episode before you ever hit play. And even if you've heard his story on other podcasts or magazines he has been featured in, I promise you will learn new aspects of his history and also his motivation to keep giving back to his community and the veterinary profession. This is part 1 of 2 with Dr. Z. Thanks for listening. Who do you want us to int...

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38:17

S2 : E13 - What's happening with 2nd Semester of 2nd...

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2026/02/09

Click here to text us your questions & comments. Apologies for the lag between episodes. Life. This episode finds Sara and Gary mostly just catching up on life. It does offer a view inside of Sara's mindset as she takes on the 2nd semester of her 2nd of 4 years in Washington State Universities College of Veterinary Medicine. Gary shares some great conversations he had while at NAVC's VMX in Orlando, with old and new friends. Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated....

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32:14

S2 : E12 - Part 2 with The Christine Staten, DVM, MBA...

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2026/01/13

Click here to text us your questions & comments. We learned Chrisitine Staten's Origin Story last week on Season 2 Episode 11 (part 1). Now we dive into her professional career from Associate to Practice Owner to Business Cheerleader. I hope you have all listened to Part 1, but if not, make sure you do. Sara and I had such a great time learning from Christine, and I think you will too. Christine on Instagram = @veterinary_mba The Veterinary MBA Website Your ratings, reviews and feed...

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28:03

S2 : E12 - The Christine Staten, DVM, MBA Origin Story

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2026/01/03

Click here to text us your questions & comments. What a fun episode? Chrisitine Staten, DVM, MBA is probably not a stranger to many, but have you heard her "Origin Story"? Did you know that Veterinary Medicine wasn't on her short list of career choices well into her undergrad studies? That's just a teaser. We won't tell you more. You have to listen. Sara is also back after a couple episodes off so we get to catch up a little with her as will. Another spoiler, the Christine con...

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30:56

S2 : E10 - FIP and more with Hunter and Bianca (Part 2)

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2025/12/15

Click here to text us your questions & comments. If you haven't listened to S2 : E9 yet, go back and do that first. That's part 1 to this part 2. In this episode we get into a bit more detail about FIP, before we detour around prior to landing on a conversation about customer service and where we think it's going in the future. Enjoy getting to know Bianca Plowman and Hunter Spielvogel a little more. Hopefully you'll also be educated during this episode along the way. Your rat...

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33:02

S2 : E9 - Let's meet Bianca and Hunter (Part 1)

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2025/12/05

Click here to text us your questions & comments. In this episode, Gary has a conversation with Sara's classmates; Bianca Plowman and Hunter Spielvogel. Unfortunately Sara was unable to join the conversation. This is a bit of a continuation of our Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine Diagnostic Challenge conversation, but this is a Post-DC talk instead of a Pre-DC talk. Spoiler alert! the case we had the challenge involves Feline Infectious Peritonitis (FI...

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29:04

The Acronym Episode - DC (Diagnostic Challenge) and...

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2025/11/11

Click here to text us your questions & comments. This epsisode finds Gary and Sara hanging out and catching up. They talk about what they've been doing and what they're looking forward to. Some of it is same old, same old as Sara has been taking tests and working in her ER and Shelter Med jobs. Gary has been on the road. Hi latest visits have been the Ohio State Univesity, Rowan University, University of Pennsylvania, Cornell University and Michigan State University. Thanks f...

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47:45

S2 : E7 - True Crime Episode replay

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2025/10/28

Click here to text us your questions & comments. If you didn't listen to Season 1 Episode 22, you missed out on a great episode. But fortunately we are posting it again here. Besides, it's also Gary's birthday today and he wants to take the week off from editing new content. If you're a true crime fan, especially if you want to learn a bit of veterinary related crime history, please listen to this episode. This story is truly shocking!Warning: Don't listen if you're triggered by sto...

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26:52

S2 : E6 - What has Gary been up to lately

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2025/10/23

Click here to text us your questions & comments. Occasionally we need to get caught up with where Gary has been recently and what he's learned. This is one of those episodes. Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated. Gary Marshall, DVM @it.might.get.weird Sara Rae @its_sara1231 Disclaimer: Although Dr. Gary Marshall is an officer in the American Veterinary Medical Association; on this podcast, Gary and Sara are speaking on their own behalf, and not on behalf o...

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28:21

S2 : E5 - The Diagnostic Challenge Episode

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2025/10/18

Click here to text us your questions & comments. Sara and Gary get together for a chat after a 5 week gap between recordings. This episode gets everyone caught up with Sara's academic schedule. Basically lots of tests! They go into detail about Sara's recent Diagnostic Challenge week. Diagnostic Challenge may be unique in name for Washington State University and Utah State University's second year curriculum, but it most likely exists in some fashion at other vet schools. Learn abou...

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41:11

S2 : E4 Special Guest Dr. Whitney Terrell Talks more...

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2025/09/30

Click here to text us your questions & comments. If you haven't listened to S2 : E3 (Part 1) with Dr. Whitney Terrell yet, please bookmark this episode and go listen to that one first. The 2 episodes are pretty self-contained, but this is a continuation of the conversation we had and probably best to listen to the entire discussion from beginning to end. We cover Alabama Football, the experience of studying overseas in Ireland, pet loss, parenting styles and so much more. And yet it...

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47:30

S2 : E3 - Special Guest Dr. Whitney Terrell Talks...

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2025/09/16

Click here to text us your questions & comments. Sara and I are together on this one to talk with the wonderful Dr. Whitney Terell ( @dr.terrellpetvet ). We talked so long, that we didn't even get close to wrapping this up in 1 episode. During this episode we mainly cover her passion for the Enneagram, and her experience applying to, getting in to, and attending Vet School in Dublin, Ireland. University College Dublin School of Veterinary Medicine is AVMA Accredited but it does not have a...

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35:57

S2 : E2 - That "What I did last summer" episode; Gary...

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2025/09/09

Click here to text us your questions & comments. Gary shares most of his summer activities. Not as exciting as Sara's. It gives a good perspective on his AVMA summer duties. Gary and Sara also talk about some unique aspects of the Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine second year curriculum. We apologize for a few technical difficulties. The audio is fine, but not the level we desire. We strive to improve this. We'd also like to once again thank Ready Vet ...

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39:37

S2 : E1 - That "What I did last summer" episode; Sara...

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2025/08/26

Click here to text us your questions & comments. Thank you for being so patient for the first episode of Season 2 of It Might Get Weird: The Podcast. Sara's second year of vet school is starting, but first... summer was jam packed and we want to tell you all about it. There was so much going on, that we could only fit Sara's summer into this episode. She worked hard, visited several states, and even had a couple foreign adventures. Thanks for listening. Your ratings, reviews a...

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45:25

S1 : E48 Special Collaboration with The Dr. Molly...

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2025/06/11

Click here to text us your questions & comments. I know we said we were taking a break for summer, but the opportunity came up to have Dr. Molly Brinkman, Dr. Tannetje Crocker and I record together to talk about our upcoming panel talk together at AVMA Convention this summer in Washington DC (Saturday July 19th at 4:00pm). Our talk is titled: "What I know now that I wish I knew then: Wisdom for students and early career veterinarians" The Dr. Molly Says Podcast Questions with Crocker Podc...

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S1 : E46 - Year 1 Finals Are Here... and so is the...

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2025/04/24

Click here to text us your questions & comments. This episode wraps up Season 1 of It Might Get Weird the Podcast. Thank you so much for listening. Sara and Gary have had fun. It's been a pretty weird year for both of them. This episode reviews a bit of Gary's thought on the AAVMC Catalyze / Iverson Bell Conference he recently attended in Washington DC. Most of the episode delves into Sara's feelings with Finals week upon her as well as reflecting on the highs and lows of her life as she ...

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S1 : E45 - The "So You Wanna Be A Zoo Vet" Episode

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2025/04/15

Click here to text us your questions & comments. Unfortunately Sara was unavailable for recording this week. Fortunately, Gary was able to secure an amazing guest while he was at the AAVMC Catalyze Conference in Washington DC. This week he interviews Dr. Laci Taylor a current Zoo Medicine Resident at The Smithsonian's National Zoo. Gary wanted so much to learn about all the exciting things that Dr. Taylor is doing during her Residency, but that will have to come another day. Before that c...

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S1 : E44 - The talking about bear research and Gary's...

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2025/04/08

Click here to text us your questions & comments. If you only have time to listen to one recent episode, this would be a good choice. Sara and Gary got together in person to record this while Gary visited WSU's College of Veterinary Medicine in his role as AVMA Vice President, and to deliver a presentation about one of his most impactful mentors, Dr. Leo K. Bustad, to the Humane Animal Bond Club. It was a great opportunity for Sara and Gary to catch up. Sara shares her recent experience at...

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25:39

S1 : E43 - The High School Romance Episode

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2025/03/31

Click here to text us your questions & comments. After Gary was in Davis California to attend SAVMA Symposium, he took a little detour to Folsom California to visit his friends Alysson and Dr. Marcus Dela Cruz, and to finally meet their dog Charlie (a good boye) in person for the first time. They were so gracious to let Gary stay with them, and to record this impromptu interview while there young son was napping. Their story of navigating a long distance relationship and negotiating optio...

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