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Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running

Josh Rosenthal | Ultra Runner

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running is a storytelling podcast for ultra runners who love this sport deeply, the iconic races, the legendary athletes, the gear, and the culture that makes all of it worth caring about. Hosted by Josh Rosenthal, founder of Borderlands Trail Running, this show exists to collect the ultra running stories that define the sport, from spending a day at Laz Lake"s home to deep conversations with Scott Jurek, Dean Karnazes, Camille Herron, and the everyday runners doing

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All Episodes

38:23

How People Become Ultrarunners (No Clear Path)

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/04/14

Nobody plans to become an ultra runner. There’s no clear path into the sport, no obvious starting point, and most people don’t grow up anywhere near it. So how do people actually find their way here?In this conversation, Josh sits down with Emory Atterberry, founder of Hyperlyte Liquid Performance, and rising ultrarunner Cade Michael to explore how three people from the same unlikely place all ended up in the sport. What emerges is a deeper look at rebellion, isolation, and why some people feel

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35:10

Ultra Running Exposes Who You Really Are (wtih Mike...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/04/01

Ultra running reveals what happens when race plans fail, training falls apart, and things don’t go the way we want. Running helps strip away all the things we distract ourselves with and forces us to stand face to face with them.In this conversation with Mike Kratzer, a former DJ turned runner, we explore what happens when there’s nothing left to hide. From quitting drinking without rock bottom to rejecting the sameness of modern running culture, this is about what running reveals when you stop

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32:00

Why People Run 100 Miles (with Billy Yang)

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2026/03/30

Whydopeoplerun100milesandkeepcomingbacktoultrarunningevenafterithurts,slowsthemdown,andoffersnoobviousreward?Ifyou’veeverbeencuriousaboutultrarunningorfeltthepulltowarddoingsomethinghardwithoutfullyunderstandingwhy,thisconversationisforyou.Inthisepisode,BillyYanghelpsunpackwhatdrawspeopleintoultrarunningandwhatthey’reactuallysearchingforoutthere.It’slessaboutracingandmoreaboutidentity,suffering,andthedeeperreasonspeoplechoosetokeepgoing.Forrunnersandanyonetryingtounderstandwhywechoosehardthings.Pleas

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10:39

Why Trail Running Feels Like Skateboarding but Isn't

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2026/03/27

Trailrunningcultureisstartingtolookalotlikeskateboarding—crews,aesthetics,amorerawidentity.Butifyou’veeverwonderedwhetherthatcomparisonactuallyholdsup,thisepisodebreaksitdown.There’sareasontheconnectionfeelsright—andadeeperreasonitmightnotbe.Thisisn’taboutdismissingwhat’shappeninginrunning,buttryingtounderstandwhatitactuallyis.Thisepisodeisforrunnerswhocareaboutthecultureofthesport,notjustthemiles.Pleasegiveusafollow,ratethepodcast,andgiveareview.PresentedbyKiprun.Topics/Timestamps1:20CultureandIdent

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21:39

How Do You Rebuild a Life? Tommie Runz on Sobriety,...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/03/23

Many runners come to ultrarunning through performance, but what happens when running comes after everything else falls apart? This episode explores how sobriety, loss, and identity shape the path into ultrarunning and what it actually looks like to rebuild a life from the ground up.Josh sits down with Tommie Runz to trace the arc from heavy drinking and personal collapse to running across the desert from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, and eventually into ultrarunning. The conversation moves through early

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25:24

Is Ultrarunning Losing Its Charm?

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/03/19

Ultrarunning is evolving and growing fast and with that growth, ultra running feels different. Josh digs into how the sport is changing as it becomes more competitive, more visible, and more professional than ever before and asks whether something essential is being lost along the way. From duct-taped water bottles and campfire start lines to global races with thousands of runners and highly engineered gear, this episode explores what that shift really means. From the rise of new brands and

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33:52

Luxury Running Brands vs Ultrarunning’s Dirtbag Culture

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/03/13

If you've ever wondered why luxury running brands suddenly started appearing in ultrarunning—a sport built on dirtbag ethos, thrift-store gear, and anti-status culture—this episode explores the tension behind it.Josh unpacks where the idea of luxury collides with traditional ultrarunning culture, what actually defines a luxury running brand, and why some runners see it as evolution while others see it as a threat to the identity of the sport. At the center is a deeper question: is ultrarunning

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47:08

44 Running Shoes Tested Over 6,000 Miles | Honest...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/03/09

If you've ever spent too much money on trail running shoes and wondered whether any of them are actually worth it, this episode is for you.I sit down with Inky Steve, a guy who has tracked 44 pairs of running shoes across 6,000 miles on Strava, to get his most honest verdicts on the shoes he'd recommend to his best friend, the ones he regrets, and the models brands should have never stopped making.For ultra runners and trail runners who take their gear seriously and want real talk and not sponsored

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43:41

10 Things I Love About Trail Running Right Now...

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2026/03/02

It's easy to love trail running this time of year because in the northern hemisphere we're leaving winter for spring and all the good feelings of hope that come with it.I want to add to that good will and sentiment by naming the 10 things the I love about trail running right now not the least of which is ACTUAL trail and ultra running.01:23 ACTUAL trail running10:48 Ultratrail Race Season13:39 Running to "Overcome"16:23 Ciele Athletics18:39 Trail Shoe Design24:05 Scrappy Trail Running Brands30:37

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01:09:12

How Ciele Athletics Survived Since Circa 2014

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/02/24

Jeremy Bresnen founded Ciele Athletics Inc./Ciele Athlétique Inc. with Mike Giles in 2014 in the now-great running city of Montreal. I started running around 2012 and clearly remember seeing Ciele on the shelf at Salt Lake Running Company circa 2015.I bought a hat almost instinctively and no doubt irresistibly.I wasn't sure I wanted to even run in it yet becuase I loved it so much and didn't want to ruin it from the 100 degree July days. Eventually I bought a second Ciele hat - one for running and

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01:06:05

Camille Herron | World Record Collector, Endurance +...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/02/19

Camille Herron is an endurance and ultra running [world] Record Collector on the road, trail, and track.She's committed to pushing back the boundaries and guardrails put on women's sports with a list of accomplishments that should make anyone listen.Enjoy this conversation about Camille's great accomplishments with emphasis on Lululemon's 6 Day event, Spartathalon, Comrades, IAU Championships, and more.Some takeaways:Camille switched from road to trail + felt at homeShe sets mini goals during races

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42:20

Jesse Rich | Ultra Running Nutrition vs. Nourishment

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/02/16

In this episode we reframe endurance nutrition to thinking about endurance nourishment.In efforts under 24 hours, its reasonable to thinkg about it in simple terms of 'nutrition' but in these big multi-day ultra running efforts where you're sleep-deprived and putting enormous pressure on your system you have to think about nourishment. At some point you have to go beyond considering electorlytes and begin considering all the nutrients - fat, protien, etc.How many calories do we burn in a 100

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45:26

Anne Flower | Black Canyon Ultras + Balancing Life as...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/02/12

There's no such thing as an overnight success but Anne Flower sure felt like it in the last year. She appeared virtually out of no where to snag the Leadville 100 course record from the great Anne Trason, set the 50 mile world record at Tunnel Hill, and get the overall Win at Javelina Jundred. But its not true. She's been running hard for a long time but her first passion has been in the drivers seat - her career as a physician in Colorado Springs. She's racing Black Canyon Ultras - 100k - to

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17:22

Francesco Puppi | Black Canyon, Running the American...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/02/11

Francesco Puppi has been ultra trail running for a long time, but his 2025 wins at UTMB's CCC, The Canyons 100k, and Chianti 47k put him squarely on the radar of the average American fan.Anytime Francesco Puppi is in a race, he's a contender and one that the other contenders have to account for. The Black Canyon course suits his marathon speed even with its techincality. He wins big mountain races but is speedy when the course suits.No matter how the race shakes out, Francesco Puppi will make it

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34:17

Alex Zono | "Running is My Best Friend" + Black...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/02/09

Alex Zono designs running gear for anyone who truly digs running. He puts his heart and soul into it and its not necessarily optimized for a pace, but a mindset and spirit. But don't let that playful lightheartedness fool you, Alex Zono is going to run Black Canyon 50k with intent to finish on the leaderboard. Go see his apparel line and you'll feel the juxtaposition of a brand truly in its element at Paris Fashion Week and a runner truly in his element at Black Canyon 50k. In this episode, Alex

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38:39

An Unexpected Running Community You Should Know About...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/02/06

Josh Rosenthal, Inky Steve, Sam Lohse, Mike Kratzer, and Simon Freeman (co-founder of Like the Wind) sat down in the Borderlands Podcast Studio at Paris Fashion Week to talk about the purpose of PFW and why its important for runners to pay attention to it.You certianly don't have to, but if you're curious or care at all about what's happening with Running Apparel and Clothing, its a brilliant event. Its not for consumers though. It's a classic B2B event in random shops in the 3rd Arrondissement of

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52:52

Why Pay Attention to the Trail Running Industry?

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/02/03

Paul Mellor joins Josh on the show — founder of underdog-focused creative agency Mellor&Smith, executive producer and 4x BAFTA nominee on Boiling Point, and currently working on a fresh documentary about ultrarunning legend Lazarus Lake. We dive into why trail runners should care about the bigger outdoor industry, Nike's surprisingly humble return to trail running, what makes certain brands unforgettable (and why others fade into the background), and the power of standing out as an

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57:07

Tommy Lewis | Run Influencing is Over, Long Live Running

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/01/29

Tommy Lewis and Josh Rosenthal talk about how they're a bit tired with the business of running (content and everything else) but they share a continued commitment and fascination with running itself. Tommy is the final guest in our series celebrating those who bring light to the world through running. Others have included Laz Lake, Nils Arend, Scott Jurek, and Dean Karnazes.He's a content creator and influencer buildling communities around running sustainabily with a sense of purpose and joy

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36:20

Lazarus Lake [pt 3] | Teaching Ultra Runners that...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/01/26

Lazarus Lake (Gary Cantrell) is the race director and creator of the Barley Marathons and Big's Backyard Ultra among others.In this interview, Josh pays homage to him with three artifacts designed to spur on conversation and attempt to explain more of who Laz Lake actually is.1. Cigarettes | Laz smokes Camel Yellows. We talk about his origins of smoking.2. LIke the Wind magazine | Mechanical watch companies navigated the quartz crisis, Like the Wind navigated the digital crises. Laz, like LtW and

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58:55

Lazarus Lake interview [Pt 2] | the Last Rebel of...

Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running ·

2026/01/19

Gary Cantrell (aka Lazarus Lake) is the last rebel of ultra running.Watch our conversation on Youtube.We love the professionalization of trail running but we don't want it all to go that way. In order for that to be interesing, the world of underground ultra running has to live strong.In this episode, Josh works through the stories of Popcorn Sutton and Andy Payne with Laz.Popcorn Sutton was a moonshiner untouched by modernization. He stood in stark contrast to the Jack Daniels and Jim Beams of the

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