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We Chat Divorce Podcast

My Divorce Solution

Divorce is emotional — but it’s also financial. We Chat Divorce helps you understand both. Join hosts Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, co-founders of My Divorce Solution, for expert divorce insights, real stories, and proven financial strategies that turn fear into focus, focus into knowledge, and knowledge into power. Whether you’re just considering divorce, in the middle of it, or rebuilding after, you’ll learn how to protect your finances, make informed decisions, and move forward with

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45:59

The Truth About Divorce & Family Law: Why...

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2025/10/15

What really happens behind the scenes at a divorce law firm? In this eye-opening episode of We Chat Divorce, co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with Attorney Kirk Stange, Founding Partner of Stange Law Firm, to uncover the truth about how family law really works—from the attorney’s side of the table.Kirk has guided clients through divorce for more than 20 years, leading a firm with offices across 30 states. He joins Karen and Catherine for a candid conversation about what

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16:50

Gray Divorce After 50: Silent Divorce, Loud Truths &...

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2025/10/08

If you’re over 50 and quietly wondering whether to stay or go, you’re not alone. In this episode of We Chat Divorce: Divorce Explored, My Divorce Solution co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA®, break down the real truths behind gray divorce—and why so many couples live in a silent divorce long before they ever make a decision.They share personal stories, client experiences, and the financial insights that can help you stop the emotional bleed and start building a plan. Whether

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31:52

The Hidden Cost of Toxic Love: How Trauma Bonds...

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2025/10/01

🚨 The Hidden Cost of Toxic Love 🚨Why is it so hard to leave someone who hurts you? And how do trauma bonds show up in divorce — emotionally and financially? In this episode of We Chat Divorce, hosts Catherine Shanahan, CDFA® and Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison, sit down with Dr. Nadine Macaluso — therapist, author of Run Like Hell, and survivor of one of the most infamous toxic marriages in modern history. Dr. Nadine was once married to the real-life “Wolf of Wall Street,” a chapter of her life

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17:42

Real Estate Decisions in Divorce: What You Need to...

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2025/09/24

Buying a home is one of the biggest financial decisions you’ll ever make — but what happens when that decision collides with divorce? In this episode of We Chat Divorce, co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan dive into the risks, timing, and financial implications of purchasing real estate during divorce.They share a real client story where a “protective clause” in a sales contract turned out to be anything but protective, highlighting how emotions, timing, and the wrong assumptions can

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43:09

Pro Se Mediation and the Kids First Approach with...

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2025/09/17

In this episode, Karen and Catherine talk with Tina Keyes, a Florida Supreme Court certified family mediator and divorce coach. Tina shares how her own family experiences led her to create a Kids First mediation model, designed to reduce conflict and keep the focus on families—not legal battles.We cover what pro se mediation really means, how to know if it’s the right fit, and why coming prepared—both financially and emotionally—is the key to success. Key Takeaways What pro se mediation is

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17:07

Divorce Explored: Blindsided by Divorce: Why...

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2025/09/10

In this powerful and timely episode, Karen and Catherine discuss what really happens when you’re blindsided by divorce—whether through infidelity, unexpected papers, or emotional betrayal—and why your first step should not be calling a lawyer, but gaining financial clarity.They break down the emotional chaos that can follow the shock of divorce and offer a different approach: one grounded in calm, informed decision-making. Drawing from their personal experiences and years of professional insight,

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38:38

Grief, Money, and Moving On: Taking Your Power Back...

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2025/09/03

Divorce isn’t just a legal or financial process—it’s an emotional one. In this powerful episode, Karen and Catherine are joined by Virginia Gilbert, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and author of Transcending High Conflict Divorce, to talk about a topic most people don’t expect to encounter during divorce: grief. Together, they explore: The emotional toll of divorce grief—even if you’re the one initiating it Why grief can leave you feeling financially stuck or frozen The

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21:24

Real Life, Real Numbers: Unpacking Financial Case...

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2025/08/27

We’re wrapping up Divorce Summer School with real-world examples from the divorce frontlines.In this episode, Karen and Catherine walk through true-to-life financial case studies to show how preparation, clarity, and the right support can completely transform the divorce experience. You’ll hear what went right, what went wrong, and what you can do differently—so you don’t become a cautionary tale. What You’ll Learn: Why “simple” divorces can still go financially off the rails The cost

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18:53

Divorce Summer School | Episode 5

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2025/08/20

This week in Divorce Summer School, we’re breaking down a popular article: “7 Things to Do ASAP When Your Spouse Wants a Divorce” from MSN & Money Talks News—and giving you the MDS-approved version.Karen and Catherine go tip-by-tip to explain what advice holds up, what you should reconsider, and what most people get wrong when panic sets in. If you’re unsure how to respond when divorce is suddenly on the table, this episode will help you shift from reaction to strategy. Why hiring an attorney

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19:17

Divorce Summer School | Episode 4: Who Can Help: How...

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2025/08/13

This week in Divorce Summer School, we’re answering one of the most overwhelming questions in the divorce process: Who should I hire?Karen and Catherine break down the roles of attorneys, mediators, CDFAs, coaches, therapists, and more—so you can confidently build the right team for your needs (not someone else’s). You’ll also learn how financial preparation helps every professional on your team do their best work—and saves you from wasting time, money, and emotional energy. If you’re unsure

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22:33

Divorce Summer School | Episode 3: From Secrets to...

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2025/08/06

This week in Divorce Summer School, we’re getting real about one of the most confusing—and expensive—parts of the divorce process: financial discovery. In this eye-opening episode, Karen and Catherine break down how the traditional legal discovery process can drain time, money, and energy—and how My Divorce Solution’s Financial Portrait™ helps you take control before things spiral. If you’ve ever asked, “Doesn’t my attorney already do this?”—this episode is for you. What financial

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18:14

Divorce Summer School | Episode 2: Dealing with...

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2025/07/30

In Week 2 of Divorce Summer School, we’re bringing back one of our most talked-about episodes—an honest, eye-opening look at financial abandonment and what to do when you're cut off from money, access, or support during divorce. Karen and Catherine break down what financial abandonment actually looks like—not just from your spouse, but sometimes even from your own legal team. This episode is packed with tips to help you prepare, advocate for yourself, and stop feeling stuck, alone, or powerless

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36:01

Divorce Summer School - Trusting Yourself to Make the...

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2025/07/23

We’re kicking off Divorce Summer School with one of our most powerful and timely past episodes—now more relevant than ever.This conversation with marriage and relationship exit strategist, Tonya Carter dives deep into the emotional side of divorce: how to stop second-guessing, start trusting yourself, and build the confidence to take control of your financial future. If you're stuck in fear or self-doubt, this episode is your permission slip to take the next step—even if you're not 100% ready.

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26:14

Divorce, FAFSA & College Costs – How to Get It Right

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2025/07/16

Paying for college is stressful—add divorce to the mix, and it gets even more complicated. In this episode, Karen sits down with college planning expert Vicki Vollweiler to unpack what divorcing parents need to know about the FAFSA process, financial aid, and protecting both your future and your child’s dreams.Vicki brings her unique expertise at the intersection of personal finance, college planning, and post-divorce parenting to help families avoid costly mistakes and missed

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41:02

Gray Divorce: Safeguarding, retirement, business and...

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2025/07/09

In this eye-opening episode of We Chat Divorce, we welcome Kara Chrobak, a Colorado-based family law attorney who brings deep insight into high-net-worth divorce, complex asset division, and marital agreements. Kara recently launched her own practice—Bespoke Law LLC—after over 15 years in big law.What we talk about with Kara: Why mediation sometimes feels more like pressure than resolution—and how to shift that narrative How to approach settlement with a risk tolerance lens rather than

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26:48

Divorce Explored: What to Know About Lump Sum Alimony...

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2025/07/02

Should you take the lump sum or stick with monthly support payments? In this episode, Catherine and Karen unpack one of the most misunderstood yet consequential decisions in divorce: alimony buyouts. Together, they demystify how these lump sum payments are calculated, who truly benefits, and what hidden pitfalls can jeopardize your financial future.From passive income projections to payout timing and mortgage qualification hurdles—this deep dive explores the real-world scenarios and tough

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23:35

Burning money questions, why investing in financial...

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2025/06/25

Welcome to another behind-the-scenes episode of Divorce Explored, your unfiltered look at what really happens inside My Divorce Solution. In this episode, Catherine and Karen tackle the five most common — and misunderstood — money questions they hear from individuals considering or starting the divorce process.If you’ve ever wondered: "Can you just take a quick look at our agreement?" "Doesn’t my attorney already do this?" "Will I still need a forensic accountant?" "Isn’t

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42:19

Peace Over Power Struggles – Co-Parenting Through Chaos

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2025/06/18

In this empowering and heartfelt episode, Catherine and Karen sit down with Dr. Tara Egan, founder of Egan Counseling & Consulting, to discuss the emotional and practical realities of co-parenting through divorce—especially in high-conflict situations. With over two decades of experience and her own personal journey through divorce, Dr. Egan shares real-world strategies that prioritize peace, protect children, and reduce costly legal and emotional power struggles.Key Takeaways: Parent

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16:12

Let Them: Emotional Freedom Meets Financial Clarity...

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2025/06/11

In this empowering episode of We Chat Divorce, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew unpack the viral “Let Them” theory popularized by Mel Robbins—and apply it to the high-stress, emotionally charged context of divorce.While “letting them” can sound passive, Catherine and Karen reveal how it’s actually a strategy grounded in smart decision-making and emotional control. Learn how to let go of reactionary behaviors, protect your finances, and focus on what truly matters for your future. Why

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34:58

Crypto in the Closet: Exposing Hidden Bitcoin in Divorce

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2025/06/04

Featuring: Jacqueline Newman, Managing Partner at Berkman Bottger Newman & Schein LLPHosted by: Karen Chellew & Catherine Shanahan | Co-founders, My Divorce SolutionEpisode Summary:In this insightful episode of We Chat Divorce, we sit down with New York matrimonial law expert Jacqueline Newman to uncover the real story behind cryptocurrency in divorce. From the early days of “Bitcoin parties” to high-stakes cases involving millions in crypto, Jacqueline shares her experience dealing with digital

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