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The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster

The Third Way is a podcast hosted by Justin Foster, co-founder of Massive, philosopher, and creative. Justin challenges dualistic thinking across all areas of life and business. Features guest episodes with other Third Way thinkers as well as his Manologues; solo streams-of-consciousness episodes where Justin shares recent epiphanies, challenges, or ideas he"s been wrestling with. fosterthinking.substack.com

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00:45:04

A Conversation with Marc Shaffer

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/11/10

In his seminal book, “The Go Giver”, Bob Berg coins the term “The Connector”; a role he esteems as the highest level of influence in business. A Connector creates value by bringing people together, sharing knowledge, and creating relationships that expand opportunity for everyone involved - all with no guile. no manipulation and no strings attached. My friend, Marc Shaffer, is the premier embodiment of being a Connector. So I was honored to have a conversation with him about his new book, “One for

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01:08:03

A Conversation with Joseph Fasano

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/10/19

Joseph Fasano is a poet, novelist, and educator who spent two decades teaching literature before leaving academia to build his own independent academy focused on cultivating full human expression through language. In a conversation that felt like channeling the Beatnik days of City Lights bookstore in San Francisco, listen in as two writers compare scars, laugh through heresy, and tell the truth about art, God, and why crafting words is still one of the best forms of resistance.Joseph grew up in a

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01:11:38

A Conversation with Wendy Colonna

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/08/11

This episode of The Third Way Podcast was a gift. I got to sit down in person with my dear friend Wendy Colonna, a much loved Austin-based singer-songwriter, creative coach, and one of those rare artists who is both a master of her craft and endlessly collaborative. Wendy is woven into some of my most cherished Austin memories, from surprising Virginia with a tear-inducing cover of “Humble and Kind” for her 50th birthday to Wendy featuring the song she wrote for my dear friend, Mohan Rangarao, at

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00:58:47

A Conversation with Sarah King

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/06/06

In this special in-person episode, I sit down with my dear friend Sarah King inside Aurora House, the creative sanctuary she founded in Austin, Texas. The last time I did an in-person interview, I was in Idaho talking horse training with my little brother. This one’s a bit different.Sarah’s story is a remarkable transformation. A former top product leader in the high-growth tech world, she climbed the ladder fast and played the game well, until she realized the game was costing her her health, her

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00:58:21

A Conversation with Trevor Perry

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/05/22

Trevor Perry and I have something rare in common: we were both raised in one of the most controlling Christian sects you’ve never heard of, the Two by Twos. Trevor got kicked out at 19 for keeping the wrong company. I walked out on my own terms years later. Either way, we both know what it’s like to have your identity dictated by dogma.In this episode, we get honest about what it means to grow up in a system that fears questions, punishes doubt, and demands obedience. We talk about the lasting

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00:42:17

A Conversation with Javiera Corea

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/03/18

For a lot of business owners, marketing feels like a necessary evil—something you know you need but would rather not spend your time on. That’s why delegation isn’t just practical; it’s freedom. Handing off the parts you don’t love (and probably shouldn’t be doing anyway) gives you the space to focus on what actually matters—your vision, your craft, your people.In this episode of The Third Way Podcast, I sit down with the brilliant and badass Javiera Corea, the founder of Motion Rocket. Javiera

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01:01:32

A Conversation with Dan Dowman

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/03/08

Leadership isn’t about control—it’s a creative act. Yet too often, leaders default to org charts, titles, and vanity metrics instead of the courage and creativity needed to build real trust. The bottom line gets in the way of belonging, and businesses exploit people rather than empower them.In this conversation, Dan Dowman and I unpack why so many organizations struggle to create cultures of connection—and why three core virtues can change everything:🔹 Wholeness over Rightness – Wholeness is a

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00:10:47

Manologue #16: The Cost of Silence

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/02/26

In this Manologue, I dig into a truth too many people would rather ignore: silence is the fuel that keeps tyranny burning. Authoritarianism isn’t just about silencing dissenters—it thrives on the privileged keeping their mouths shut. From my own experience in a high-control religious environment to the broader patterns of history, I break down why silence is complicity and why moral clarity matters now more than ever.I call on business leaders—those with influence, resources, and platforms—to speak

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00:09:28

Manologue #15: Grief of a Broken Code

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/02/20

This episode is about a different kind of grief—the kind that lingers when something you believe in gets betrayed. I was raised on the Western Code: protect women, judge a person by their work, and give no mercy to horse thieves. It wasn’t an idea. It was a lineage that started in the grit and dust of the Old West and was lived by every generation - until the last 10 years.Now, I see men who once embodied that code looking the other way, making excuses for a man who assaults women, flaunts his

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00:49:49

A Conversation with Joe Bova

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/02/13

In this episode of The Third Way Podcast, I sit down with my friend and client, Joe Bova, for a deep and insightful conversation about his unconventional journey—from Hollywood to owning a bakery to becoming a therapist and coach.Joe shares his “Finding the Gold” story, inspired by a clay-covered Buddha, which serves as the core metaphor for his Story Restoration™ model. He opens up about the struggles of self-acceptance and the lifelong work of uncovering who we really are beneath the layers of

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00:56:37

A Special Conversation with Mohan Rangarao

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2025/02/06

I met Mohan in the most serendipitous way: through my dear friend, Stacy Ennis, (who I also met in a serendipitous way many years ago in Boise, ID). But here is the cosmic part… Stacy lives in Portugal. Mohan lives in Mysore, India. I live in Austin. The odds of Mohan finding Stacy are astronomical. That back story is important context for why I’m sharing this conversation I had with Mohan. Last summer, Mohan came to Austin with just the draft of a book called “Myopia”. I sensed that there was a

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45:00

Special Third Way Episode

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2024/11/04

With the election tomorrow, we’re standing on the edge of a potential milestone. But regardless of the outcome, women are already leading us forward in all areas of life. That’s why I sat down with Shuronda Robinson, a client of The Fractional XO and a dear friend, to have a raw, honest conversation on allyship—one that gets to the heart of what real support for women in leadership looks like.Why now? Because allyship isn’t a checkbox; it’s about showing up with intention. If we’re serious about

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44:04

3D Conversation: Kelly Campbell

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2024/09/12

In this episode, I'm shaking things up and stepping away from the 3D traditional interview model to see if a conversation can carry itself without a script. I'm bringing back Kelly Campbell—my "spiritual doppelganger," a dear friend who shares my Scorpio intensity and Enneagram 8 energy. We're diving deep into the art of unscripted dialogue and exploring how our identities shape our work, relationships, and growth.Note: this is my last episode using the 3D format. I will be continuing the bi-weekly

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Manologue #14: Critical Intelligence & the 2024 Election

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2024/08/09

Some supporting information for the terminology I use in this Manologue.Critical Intelligence:The practical to combine critical thinking, self-awareness, cognitive skills, and spiritual values to make informed and balanced decisions. It involves analyzing information carefully, recognizing personal biases, and applying logical reasoning, all while staying grounded in a sense of purpose and ethical considerations.For the purposes of using Critical Intelligence to discuss the 2024 Election, I’m using

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3D Conversation with Ben Guttmann

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2024/07/18

In this episode, I do something I’ve never done on a podcast episode: talked directly about branding and marketing! Thanks to an introduction from our mutual friend, Kelly Campbell, I was able to have a 3D conversation with brand communication expert, Ben Guttmann. We discuss his new book, our mutual advocacy for simplicity in branding, and how marketing has eroded the power of language and the need to return to clear, authentic communication. Ben’s links:“Simply Put” bookHis websiteHis LinkedIn

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3D Conversation with Todd Lieman

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2024/06/14

My buddy, Todd Lieman, was on my podcast way back in January of 2022. Since then, Todd has brought an incredible book into the world, “Dinner at God’s House”. It is one of the best spiritual fables I’ve ever read. As I mention in the episode, writing fables well is difficult, but spiritual fables are even more so. In this episode, Todd and I explore the book’s inspiration, its central messages, and the journey of spiritual discovery it invites readers on, along with themes of spirituality,

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Manologue #13

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2024/06/06

In this Manologue episode, I share the difference between cognitive biases and logical fallacies and how logical fallacies are direct threat to American ideals and truth itself. As mentioned, I am including a partial list of both … Here are some of the top cognitive biases:* Confirmation Bias: The tendency to search for, interpret, and remember information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions.* Anchoring Bias: The tendency to rely too heavily on the first piece of information encountered (the

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3D Conversation with Bryce Hoffman

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2024/05/24

In this episode, I had the privilege of an in-person conversation with one of my best friends, Bryce Hoffman. As it is with all of our conversations, we discussed a wide range of things, including the importance of critical thinking in leadership, emphasizing its role in navigating today's volatile and uncertain world, the decline of critical thinking education and its impact on society, and addressing the systemic issues faced by businesses and governments. Key Highlights:- Critical thinking is

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Manologue #12

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2024/05/19

In this Manologue, I share the social significance of the show “Suits” - especially in light of Harrison Butker’s comments and a pervasive anti-femininity bent in much of our culture. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fosterthinking.substack.com/subscribe

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3D Conversation with Byron Reese

The Third Way. Hosted by Justin Foster ·

2024/05/03

Byron Reese is a futurist who thinks a lot about the past. I first learned about Byron when I read his book, “Stories, Dice, and Rocks that Think” , a book that celebrates the advancement of humanity rather than decries is. I describe Byron as “indescribably brilliant”. I also like how he is described in his bio:There are the people who hope the future will be better, then there are the people who reason the future will be better. Byron is the second variety. Both a futurist and optimist, Byron

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