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Life After MLM

Roberta Blevins

True stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidiousness of cults, frauds, scams and pyramid schemes. Through compassionate and educational informal chats, we work to end the stigma of "failure", in an machine systematically designed for you to fail. Hosted by Roberta Blevins, star of LuLaRich.Life After MLM is a part of True Native Media. Visit https://truenativemedia.com for more.

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01:08:07

Episode 321 : The High Priestess of Pink - Part 1

Life After MLM ·

2025/11/02

Nic is back and we're here to deep dive into the life and legacy of Mary Kay Ash, the founder of one of the oldest MLM companies. The story that is told to consultants and regurgitated over and over at events about Mary Kay's life and the founding of the company? Turns out, it's not true. Nic has come with the records and receipts as we go through the fabrications surrounding her origin story, and the truth about her multiple marriages. Our conversation also highlights the eerily similar connections

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01:01:12

Episode 320 : Haunted San Diego

Life After MLM ·

2025/10/31

Happy Halloween Huns! Come join us as we explore the earliest spooky history and most haunted locations all over San Diego. In this special Halloween episode we go on location and experience San Diego, just after the Mexican-American War; the development of present day Downtown, the history of The Whaley House, San Diego's first cemetery El Campo Santo, Rancho Guajome Adobe and Pioneer Park. These are some of my absolute favorite spooky places in San Diego, and I am excited to share this history

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01:19:41

Episode 319 : The Death of Alene Schrader

Life After MLM ·

2025/10/26

In this episode, we delve into the tragic story of Alene Schrader, who suffered fatal medical neglect at the hands of her granddaughter, Kandise Sheahen, a registered nurse involved in the MLM Q Sciences. Our conversation with Alene's grandson, Jon Schrader and his wife Francesa, explores the dangers of MLM products as healthcare, the risks associated with trusting unqualified individuals in financially motivated medical situations, and the subsequent legal proceedings following Nana's death from

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01:13:59

Episode 318 : Mallory DeMille

Life After MLM ·

2025/10/19

Let's grab Mallory DeMille and dive into the wacky world of wellness influencers; the rise of grifters, the impact of the MAHA movement, and the absurd trends that have emerged in recent years. We discuss how wellness influencers exploit tragedies for profit, the gamification of the wellness space, and the challenges of helping change minds in a world filled with mis and disinformation. And what extreme wellness influencer episode would be complete without touching on some of 2025's most bizarre

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00:41:33

Bonus Episode Recap - 317 : Lillian & MVP

Life After MLM ·

2025/10/16

After he listened to the last episode, Mr. F had a lot of questions and insight about Lillian's story. We literally talked about aspects of it everyday, so much so that I said we should just sit down and record our thoughts about this MLM that isn't quite and MLM, Magical Vacation Planners. If you had more thoughts or pending questions about the last episode, join us for this chat or send us a message!Show Notes Magical Vacation Planner's Website Reddit : r/AntiMLM re: MVP Reddit :

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01:01:50

Episode 317 : Lillian

Life After MLM ·

2025/10/12

Meet Lillian, a former travel agent with Magical Vacation Planner, an MLM adjacent travel agency with some allegedly shady practices. We chat about MVP's commission-based payment structure, and what that meant for the reps with the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic's lockdown. Our conversation delves into MVP's recruitment practices, intense contractual obligations, and the similarities between MVP and MLMs. Plus, Mr. F and I dissect another Chick Tract for Halloween! Show Notes Chick

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01:12:09

Episode 316 : "The Spookiest Place on Earth"

Life After MLM ·

2025/10/05

Happy October and welcome to the Spooky Era of our "Holiday Magic" episodes! Journey with us today on our recent trip to celebrate Abbey's birthday at Disneyland, just in time for Halloween! In this episode we share some of our favorite ghost stories, urban legends, Easter eggs and history from California's Disneyland, along with some audio recorded at the park! Plus, this holiday season we will be reading some "Chick Tracts", starting today with "Spooky".Show Notes Reddit : Arieyl Owner Gets

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01:17:04

Episode 315 : Renee

Life After MLM ·

2025/09/28

In continuing our education into GLP-1s, our guest Renee and I discuss the complexities of the different medications, their impact on health, and the challenges faced in accessing these treatments within the U.S. healthcare system. We explore the stigma surrounding weight loss drugs, the role insurance plays, and the rise of scammers in the GLP-1 space, while emphasizing the importance of medical trust and the need for accurate information in navigating health decisions. Plus, a small mini dive into

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00:56:36

Episode 314 : MLM Mini Dive : Marketplace Global

Life After MLM ·

2025/09/21

Julie is back and today we are diving into an MLM called MarketPlace Global, exploring its products, the owner's juicy history with MLM, and the closed loop system being run without most people's knowledge. Julie fills us in on their current flagship product, Phix, its controversial claims and shady practices, and tells us a never before heard story about their recruitment strategies and data farming program. Plus an episode recap for #313 with Mr. F and listener emails!Show Notes Connect with

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00:59:28

Episode 313 : Beth and Matt

Life After MLM ·

2025/09/14

We've got Beth & Matt from Cut The Crap Podcast here today to discuss the rising trend of GLP-1 medications in influencer culture. In our chat, we explore the ethical concerns over the marketing of these drugs, the implications of telehealth, the financial incentives for influencers, and the potential dangers of unregulated use of GLP-1s. We are not doctors and want to emphasize the importance of seeking medical guidance as well as addressing the risks of disordered eating associated with these

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00:33:54

Bonus Episode Recap - 312 : Elle Giacomini

Life After MLM ·

2025/09/11

Mr. F joins me for a new bonus Episode Recap series we are trying out! These bonus episodes will be recaps of the previous episode and address various updates, questions, comments and thoughts we had while listening! Elle couldn't join us today, because she had to have surgery so we send our well wishes while we recap our thoughts on Twin Flames, the US Military, Discord Watch Parties, and sprinkling some easter eggs for the holiday episodes!Show Notes Twin Flames Universe Wiki Page Police Raid

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01:29:15

Episode 312 : Elle Giacomini

Life After MLM ·

2025/09/07

Meet Elle Giacomini, a chemist turned musician and a survivor of the Twin Flames Universe cult. In our chat we discuss Elle's journey into Twin Flame, and the manipulative practices and psychological teachings of its leaders, including the controversial mirror exercise. We explore the dynamics of twin flames, the MLM-like structure of the cult, and the troubling gender expectations imposed on members. Elle also shares her journey of writing a book, her current life and aspirations, and the emphasis

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01:13:31

Episode 311 : Anna

Life After MLM ·

2025/08/31

When Anna started dating Jeff he was already deep in Amway, ready to recruit her into his downline. Never at any point in their relationship was Amway not there as a constant third wheel, adding stress, debt and resentment to every day. In this episode we discuss the toxic patriarchal structure alive and well in Amway, the rampant use of faith manipulation and how fast debt accumulates when you're at the top of the pyramid.Show Notes Out of MLM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The BITE Model⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LAMLM

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01:18:05

Episode 310 : Meredith Adams

Life After MLM ·

2025/08/25

Meredith was a single woman living in New York City when she was recruited into Amway. Over the years she devoted her life to the business, she noticed how patriarchal and cookie cutter the entire organization actually was. In our chat we talk about Amway Broadway Dreams, what life and business looks like after MLM and her viral giant cat. Connect with Meredith : Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | Website Connect with Barsik : Instagram Amway Wiki - Vinny and Dayna Pappalardo NYC Shelter Takes in

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01:05:31

Episode 309 : Alex Stratton

Life After MLM ·

2025/08/17

In 2022, Alex had bariatric surgery that changed her entire life. Carefully navigating her new normal with the help of a specialized medical team, Alex did everything right but still couldn't escape the incessant nagging of "quick fix" pitches from MLM Huns. We also talk about GLP-1's and the shady influencer culture surrounding their surge in popularity, what's real, what's safe and some news that may surprise you.Show Notes Connect with Alex : Instagram | TikTok | LinkedIn ‘It gives MLM

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Episode 308 : Sara Part 2

Life After MLM ·

2025/08/10

In the conclusion of Sara's story, we get up an close and personal tour of the inner workings of the Shaklee pyramid. As Sara watches the panic within the team when everything is threatened to crumble, she's disappointed by the reactions of those she trusted most and starts to question her place in it all. Plus, more pieces to the Shaklee/Modere/Amare love triangle. Show Notes Rich Higbee Rejoins Amare Sara's Website Wild Woman Project Out of MLM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The BITE

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01:22:19

Episode 307 : Sara Part 1

Life After MLM ·

2025/08/03

Through the years looking for community, Sara eventually finds herself climbing the pyramid of Shaklee and realizing it might not be all that it seems.

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01:34:54

Episode 306 : Kiersten Lyons

Life After MLM ·

2025/07/28

What happens when the life you've been working toward doesn't work out? When it comes to relationships, friends, jobs and dreams, Kiersten has been crushed by them all, braved the internet to tell the tales and bares her soul in her new book Crushed. From trying to make it big in Hollywood, getting kicked out of a cult, or avoiding huns selling skincare, Kiersten shares her story with laughs and wisdom. Plus, an update in the Modere/Amare/Shaklee drama and MLMers saying the quiet parts out

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01:19:08

Episode 305 : Kryssie

Life After MLM ·

2025/07/21

While deep in MLM, Kryssie found coaching and sobriety, which lead her to opening her eyes and finally doing a profit and loss, and her honesty will shock you.

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Episode 304 : Jenn Mruk

Life After MLM ·

2025/07/13

After our last episode about Arieyl, you asked for a deeper dive into the company and more tea, so I answered! In her 15 years in MLM, Jennifer Mruk has seen and experienced some stuff, but nothing quite like her time in Arieyl. Now that she's out and AntiMLM, she is sharing her insider information, including questionable products, shady leadership and some very unchristian like behaviors from the founders.Show Notes Lawsuit Filing - Dropbox Amanda Brunson Throws Shade r/antiMLM Arieyl Sues

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